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Macbook Pro 15 or iMac?
Mike Huffstatler, Photographer, Assistant
Rancho Cucamonga | Ca | United States | Posted: 3:03 PM on 05.12.15
->> Sorry for a basic sounding hardware question, but I'd love to get some feedback.

I currently have a late 2013 13" MBP with 8gb / 256 ssd / i5/. I use Lightroom as a primary tool but it is really slow with this configuration. Once images (raw, often converted to DNG) are processed things run fine, but it's just slow as heck getting there.

Looking to correct this from a couple different angles. One is with the iMac and then do some import/export/sharing of catalogs. The second is to get a 15" with i7 and more memory. Either solution would likely replace my aging Dell tower.

I can get a late 2012 iMac with 32gb, 3tb fusion drive, etc or a late 2014 MBP 15" with 16gb and 512 SSD for about the same price. Some benchmarks show the MBP to be a better performer by as much as 30%.

Do you agree with this? Would the MBP give me better performance than the iMac? If I get the 15" unit, I will have a 27" 4k monitor on my desktop. With the 15", I will sell the 13. If I go iMac I will keep the 13 as my portable unit.

Thank you in advance for your thoughts on this. I'm not a big fan of these hardware kind of threads, but this is a great community to query for real world opinions. I'm hoping we can avoid the whole Mac/Windows debate these often head into.

Cheers
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Colin Hackley, Photographer
Tallahassee | FL | USA | Posted: 5:30 PM on 05.12.15
->> I bought a MacBook Pro 15" at the beginning of the year (mid-range processor and 1 TB SSD) and have been very pleased with it. I wasn't running an SSD on my older MBP so speed bump was more noticeable for me than it will be for you. The retina screen is a real treat so you will appreciate that a great deal that on the road.

I'd look into making sure the MBP will drive your 4K display to your satisfaction and if it does I'd go with the MacBook Pro. I think you will get more bang for the buck.

File transfer speed of USB 3.0 is another bonus of the new MBP that should not be ignored. Annoyances: Be prepared to need to buy several cable adapters and if you leave your computer unattended in venues, a cable lock adapter. The new MBP does not have a kensington-style lock slot on it so there is no way to lock it up without an adapter of some kind.
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Mike Huffstatler, Photographer, Assistant
Rancho Cucamonga | Ca | United States | Posted: 12:45 PM on 05.13.15
->> Thanks Colin. I am currently leaning towards the MBP 15. I appreciate your thoughts and tips on this approach.

One reason I ask about the performance differences is based on my Windows laptop experience. Most of the time, Windows laptops use "mobile" series processors for lower power draw and heat. The result I have seen in the past is that an i5 desktop solution would out perform an i7 portable in the same tasks. Some of this is of course application dependent not always.

Do you, or anyone else, know if Apple takes the same approach? I've looked and it's not entirely clear to me if they are using mobile processors.
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Paul DiSalvo, Photographer
Highlands Ranch | CO | United States of America | Posted: 4:21 PM on 05.13.15
->> +1 on what Colin said. The Retina display and USB 3 are great. Connecting up several peripherals was my big challenge. I was running a large monitor and several USB devices off an old MBP. If I were to guess, when they slimmed down the overall size, they downsized the power supply as well. Suddenly the same usb devices couldn't all run at the same time. A powered hub fixed that. I was also running a large monitor with the Mini Display port to Dvi Adaptor. You'll probably need a new adaptor (Apple calls it the Dual Link Adaptor) that gets separate power from another usb port. This works OK but requires rebooting the monitor about once a day as the screen gets all full of static. There's also the issue of disk storage. Check out the ThunderBay's from OWC. Overall, if you work more at home, you're better off with a desktop which will give you multiple core options. I bought the best MBP I could get last year to replace an old MP tower. In a lot of ways it's way better, a few fall short. If only I could afford the one I have plus a new MacPro!
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Paul DiSalvo, Photographer
Highlands Ranch | CO | United States of America | Posted: 8:16 PM on 05.13.15
->> @Mike - One more thing... If you go new, Apple offers interest free, SAC financing for between 12-24 months. Term depends on how much you spend and the stuff you're talking about would be somewhere in the 18-24 range. Wish Nikon did this. You can still use any Kelby / NPPA /other Apple discount plans you have access to and you get points toward iTunes gift card rewards. All combined, it softened the blow between used and new.
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Gavin Werbeloff, Photographer
New York | NY | USA | Posted: 9:31 PM on 05.13.15
->> The one point of caution on the MacBook Pro: Only the top end models have a dedicated graphics chip. The iMac will have definitely have it. The latest version of Lightroom have been tweaked to utilize graphics processors more, and that seems to be the way things are going generally, so if this is going to be your only machine, you'll want to have that capability.
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Garrett Hubbard, Photographer
Washington | D.C. | USA | Posted: 9:03 AM on 05.14.15
->> Of those two used options, the 15" MBP is your best bet. I like the 4K external display route as well. As long as that display is a good one, it will last you multiple computers.

Also, there is no sense in jumping backward in time (used iMac route) with older CPU and GPU architecture as well as likely slower bus speeds.
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Al Goldis, Photographer
East Lansing | MI | USA | Posted: 12:49 PM on 05.15.15
->> There are several Mac benchmark sites out there where you can compare the performance of the exact models you're considering.

The best example is probably:
https://browser.primatelabs.com/mac-benchmarks

Here are couple others:
http://barefeats.com/
http://macperformanceguide.com/

Personally, I have never been a fan of the iMac so I would lean to the quad-core MacBook Pro, but that's just me.

(Also, I don't want to complicate things too much but just for kicks, you might want to check into a quad-core Mac mini (which are now hard to find new) or a used pre-trashcan Mac Pro as long as it is 2009 or newer. Either would cost less than the iMac or MBP but still perform as well or better.)
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Mike Huffstatler, Photographer, Assistant
Rancho Cucamonga | Ca | United States | Posted: 10:52 PM on 05.16.15
->> Thank you all for the great tips. I really appreciate you sharing your thoughts. I am leaning towards the MBP right now. It makes sense to me in a lot of ways and does have the dedicated graphics.

I will look around a bit for the quad core mini.

Cheers
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Baron Sekiya, Photographer, Photo Editor
Hilo | HI | USA | Posted: 7:50 PM on 05.17.15
->> Latest rumour is that new MBP is just around the corner, maybe this summer at WWDC. Build to order MBPs are currently discontinued. http://bit.ly/1Fs8LKT
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Mike Isler, Photographer
New York | NY | US | Posted: 1:21 PM on 05.19.15
->> New MBP just came out today, with updated graphics card and Force Touch trackpad.

The new 5K iMacs are slower than the previous generation, as most of the under-the-hood chips aren't greatly upgraded but the system has to drive many more pixels on the new Retina display. Great for viewing content, not so great for retouching/video editing.
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Baron Sekiya, Photographer, Photo Editor
Hilo | HI | USA | Posted: 5:33 PM on 05.19.15
->> Surprised they didn't go with their new butterfly keyboard design instead of using the scissors keyboard design they say is inferior on their MacBook page. Unless they are using it and not mentioning it at all. From reviews I've heard the new butterfly design is weird at first due to the shallow key travel but after using it folks like it.
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