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Alternative to tethering?
Rob Dicker, Photographer
Lake Villa | IL | USA | Posted: 10:19 AM on 02.04.15
->> Has anyone tried using their cell phone (in my case an Android) to FTP images? I am thinking I could save 30 to 40 dollars a month by editing my images on my laptop, move them to my phone and then upload them to the destination server.

Can/will that work?
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Doug Pizac, Photographer
Sandy | UT | USA | Posted: 11:16 AM on 02.04.15
->> I once used my Android phone as a FTP data transmitter from my laptop years ago and it worked great. The app was EasyTether; you physically connected the laptop to the phone with a cable. It worked great because it used the same data transfer network that the phone used for accessing the web and because of that there was unlimited data use. Then the phone companies got wise because it circumvented their data plans that they charged for. I don't know about other companies, but my Sprint service modified something where you couldn't use EasyTether -- at least on the phones I've used.

As an alternative, Sprint and others offer data plans based on how many megabites you want to pay for on top of your plan. It can become very costly very easily depending on the size and number of files you transmit. Instead of being tethered the phone becomes a WiFi hotspot that you connect to wirelessly.

In your case, you need to figure out how much data you'll be transmitting each month and then do some price comparisons of the various plans.

In my case, with the plethora of hotspots around via Starbucks, libraries, restaurants, etc. it is now rarely that I need to use my phone to transmit which makes buying a monthly data plan very cost prohibitive. However, with Sprint you can call them, sign up for hotspot, use it, and then call to cancel. Instead of paying for the whole month you only pay a pro-rated price which is about a dollar per day. There have been many a time when I have been in a place or town where I've needed FTP service for only a day or week and Sprint's pro-rated data has come through nicely at a very economical price.
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Chris Mackler, Photographer, Photo Editor
Arlington | VA | United States | Posted: 2:17 PM on 02.04.15
->> I have never tethered my Android phone for transmitting, but I do keep a FreedomPop (www.freedompop.com) hotspot active for such an instance. No monthly fee for half a GB of data a month (which is enough for the occasional transmitting), and reasonable rates thereafter. Karma (www.yourkarma.com) also offers similar freemium pricing plans too. In my opinion, a great alternative to paying your network big bucks to tether small amounts of data.
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Jim Pierce, Photographer
Waltham | MA | USA | Posted: 2:42 PM on 02.04.15
->> Rob,

I ran in to a problem just last night while shooting the Beanpot, (a hockey tournament between BC, BU, Northeastern and Harvard) at Boston Garden, I could not connect to the Press wifi. I was the only one and never had an issue before. The only thing I could do was use my Verizon Droid as a hotspot and connect to this with my laptop to transmit. I was lucky Verizon has good service in Boston Garden.

I don't see why you would need to "move them to your phone" just use your phone and phone plan to get them to the destination server.

I was shooting tethered (cabled) to my laptop using LR. During TV timeouts I would quickly e-mail a few images via LR to my contacts who were in the garden but on the 9th floor, I was at ice level at the glass. This worked very well, I did have some connection issues a couple times but nothing that caused a major issue. If I remember correctly my plan includes the hotspot fee and it is just part of my data that I transmitted. I don't do this often at all so what I transmitted last night should not add extra costs.

e-Mail if you have an specific questions.
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Francis Specker, Photographer
Riverside | CA | USA | Posted: 2:44 PM on 02.04.15
->> Another alternative is to use an Android program to link up your laptop to your phone, I use Android File Transfer on my mac, transfer the photos to your phone, and then use your choice of Android FTP programs to transmit from the phone.

If your camera has a wifi built-in, then transferring photos to your phone is even easier. Then edit and send from the phone. The MoPhotos Pro app for Android is great for editing IPTC data on your photo and it also has a built-in FTP capability. I can now do a job with my wifi enabled camera and my phone.
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Rob Dicker, Photographer
Lake Villa | IL | USA | Posted: 9:55 PM on 02.04.15
->> When I said tethering, I was actually thinking wifi hotspot. Either with or without a cable, mobile data uploads cost extra, even though I have unlimited free data from AT&T for my phone. They just won't allow me to connect my computer to my phone and xmit.

I'm just looking for a workaround.
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Matt Gade, Photographer
Mitchell | SD | USA | Posted: 11:15 PM on 02.04.15
->> I paid the $8 for the FoxFi app on my Samsung to utilize my phone's mobile hotspot since the FCC ruled that phone companies can't tell you how to use your data plans. The cell companies just won't tell you in hopes you'll purchase the option from them.

http://www.zdnet.com/article/let-my-wi-fi-go-fcc-rules-verizon-cant-charge-.../
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Ben Mackey, Photographer, Photo Editor
Columbia | MD | USA | Posted: 8:24 PM on 02.05.15
->> Rob,

I've used my phone as a hotspot (before that was disabled - the provider accidentally gave it to me for free). I've also used a mifi. Either should meet your needs. They are as simple as connecting to any other access point from your laptop or tablet. Except for the speed, they work the same unless you are in a spot with no cell coverage.

To answer your original question, I've had good luch with AndFTP (an Android app). Just remember to set it up and test it before you need it.

I simply connect the phone to the laptop using the USB cable (setting the phone to be in disk mode) and copy images over. When I forget a USB cable I just pull the micro-SD card from the phone and transfer what I need using a card reader connected to the laptop before returning the card to the phone. Either way, the files I need to transmit are on the phone. Then FTPing them to the proper server is easy.

Your question makes me wonder if there is an app to turn my phone into a local wifi access point. By local I mean not using cell service at all but replacing the physical USB connection between the laptop and the phone with wifi.
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Baron Sekiya, Photographer, Photo Editor
Hilo | HI | USA | Posted: 5:57 AM on 02.06.15
->> You can tranfer the files from the laptop to the smartphone and transmit from there. Leave the laptop at your workstation, go back to shooting with your smartphone FTPing the images from your pocket.
Or you can use
http://tether.com and possibly break some of your cellular contract by tethering your laptop to your cellphone data connection even if you don't have a tethering plan.
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Baron Sekiya, Photographer, Photo Editor
Hilo | HI | USA | Posted: 6:03 AM on 02.06.15
->> I use Transmit on my iPhone, works well and syncs with my Mac OSX Transmit bookmarks. Can do SFTP too.
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Michael Chang, Photographer
Mobile | AL | USA | Posted: 12:19 PM on 02.06.15
->> I second Matt's recommendation of the Foxfi app. I have the newer Note 4 and the program works fine. Luckily I still have Verizon's unlimited data plan so I don't have to worry about hitting any limits.
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Jeffrey Nycz, Photographer
Warsaw | IN | USA | Posted: 7:41 PM on 02.06.15
->> Just purchased Toshiba's new WiFi card. It allows you to browse the card in the camera and with a smart phone app and select only the images of interest, and save them to the phone or send via email, text message, etc. Not sure about FTP. The images display in near real time on the app and the technology is very reliable IF the phone and camera do not go into sleep mode. I have used it to send basketball images within minutes of the action to an SID for upload to the website.

Shoot RAW to a CF card and low res JPEG to the WiFi SD card.

Was $32.00 for a 32 gig class 10 card at Amazon.
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Kevin M. Cox, Photographer
Galveston & Houston | TX | US | Posted: 10:09 AM on 02.09.15
->> Rob, it may be time to ditch that old grandfathered unlimited data plan and switch to a current AT&T Mobile Share plan. I resisted for a long time but made the switch this past fall specifically so I could have tethering available and ended up saving money in the process.

I liked the reassurance that I had unlimited data, but when I looked at my actual usage for the previous year it wasn't very high. We actually were still on an old minutes-based plan and realized we could be saving almost $100 per month by switching to a Mobile Share plan. I also bought my new iPhone 6 at full price since that knocks my monthly bill down by $25 per month and ends up being cheaper over the long run.

Now it'll depend on what plan you're on so you'll have to do some careful research. For me, I'm on a family plan with 5 lines and we went with 10 GB of data. AT&T has now bumped that plan to 15 GB and just launched rollover data. I'm basically back to feeling like I have unlimited data but with a much cheaper bill and tethering available.
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Scott Serio, Photo Editor, Photographer
Colora | MD | USA | Posted: 9:43 PM on 02.09.15
->> Tethering? What is this, 2001? I second Kevin, if there isn't an app that is an easy workaround, get a new phone and a new plan. I am guess the phone you have now is a 3G phone anyway and the different in Tx speed between 3g and 4G LTE is monumental.

Once you join the current decade, you can decide on the best option. Using the phone as a wifi hotspot to send from your laptop is one option. But, if you get an iPhone 6 or 6+ with Filterstorm Nueue and have a camera that uses SD cards, you can transmit from camera to phone in the field and edit, tone, caption and FTP right from your phone.

The TX speed alone from 3G to 4G LTE is HUGE. I know in the best spots the transfer rates I see in Photo Mechanic were always like 120-150kbs in 3G and I have seen 2000kbs with 4G LTE.
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Scott Serio, Photo Editor, Photographer
Colora | MD | USA | Posted: 10:38 AM on 02.10.15
->> To be clear...since I got an email...

The iPhone 6 doesn't have an SD slot, but if you have a cameras that uses SD cards there are several Camera to Phone options...

1. You have a camera with Wifi. The Canon 6D, Nikon D750 and others that take wifi adapters.
2. An Eye-fi Mobi
3. The Air-Stash.

All the in-camera versions are better. The software with those allows you to review the images and pick the ones you want to download. I like Nikon's more than the AirStash. The Eye-fi is nice, but you have to download everything and then edit the ones you want. For in-field use, the Nikon app is easier and quicker.
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Rob Dicker, Photographer
Lake Villa | IL | USA | Posted: 2:51 PM on 02.10.15
->> OK, sorry for the old school question.

In an effort to save half on my cell phone fees I found a workaround that will allow me to FTP images when wifi isn't an option and when their isn't time to leave and drive to the nearest Starbucks.

I transfer my images from my laptop to my phone using bluetooth and them ftp them with my android. It works very well and doesn't take that much extra time.
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