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Old Style MacPro to MacBook Pro ?
Paul DiSalvo, Photographer
Highlands Ranch | CO | United States of America | Posted: 10:06 AM on 10.08.14
->> My 2008 MacPro workhorse has been acting up and has me thinking about finally upgrading. The new MacPro looks awesome but I'm not sure I want to part with a kidney or something. Plus the newer MacBook Pro's can now be had with separate graphics processors instead of being integrated on the main chip, and the same flash type hard drive as the MacPro. This has me thinking a laptop might finally be able to rival a workstation for graphics laden work. Plus with the new Thunderbolt connections, you can have lots of extra drive space or other peripherals and not give up on data transfer speed. As a freelance guy, the larger majority of my work is with with larger (500-800 MB) files with lots of layers, for posters, banners, etc.

Kind of ruling out an iMac since i already own a monitor and the portability of a new laptop to replace another old MacBook Pro has it's advantages. And not interested in a pc based option.

Anyone here gone from the workstation to a MBP for this kind of work? Anyone seen any good benchmarks that consider Ps and Lr work, batch actions, etc. I've seen a few articles on base benchmarks but have no idea how they relate to real world use.

Thanks in advanceā€¦ Paul D.
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Chris Peterson, Photographer, Photo Editor
Columbia Falls | MT | USA | Posted: 1:42 PM on 10.08.14
->> Have you considered just upgrading to a more recent Mac Pro? I'm running Adobe CC Photoshop on an 09 Pro and it hums right along processing the big ol' files from a D800. I like the Pro because you can stack drives into it, so you don't have to buy separate servers. I use a program called Super Duper that does auto backups every morning. I think it costs around $25.
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Scott Morgan, Photographer
Des Moines | IA | United States | Posted: 2:09 PM on 10.08.14
->> Just about anything you upgrade to will be a huge improvement. I currently run a 2.2 ghz 2012 macbook pro for my freelance biz, and it handles files with ease. The new models should perform even better. Just getting 16 gb of ram and a solid state drive will be a huge upgrade for you.

That said, I would probably not go with the Mac Pro unless you're doing lots of video work. The laptop and external monitor should work well for you.

That said, there are some Rumors of Apple introducing a 4k or 5k iMac in the near future. I am really hoping they do come out with one soon, as I think I may get one for my editing. I currently run two external displays from my MBP, and a 4k or 5k monitor to replace my old 24" screen would really be nice.
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Paul DiSalvo, Photographer
Highlands Ranch | CO | United States of America | Posted: 2:27 PM on 10.08.14
->> @ Chris - I've been looking over used 2012 MacPro's but good ones are selling for $1800 -$2200. I've always been big on used gear (some would say cheap) . But the high price of used is making me think twice.
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Bruce Sherwood, Photographer
Carlsbad | Ca | USA | Posted: 6:53 PM on 10.08.14
->> Hi Paul,
Last year I purchased a used 15" MacBook Pro, I think it was a 2011 model, for $900, Mainly because Im cheap! HaHa....No really, I too am a proponent of used equipment. I upgraded the ram and put a 500gb SSD in it for less then $300 and the machine is FAST! I can run photomechanic, photoshop and view nx at the same time with no problems. In less then 30 seconds from turning the computer on, photoshop is up and working. It might be worth a look.
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Chris Peterson, Photographer, Photo Editor
Columbia Falls | MT | USA | Posted: 12:18 PM on 10.09.14
->> Paul, if they're that much, how about a refurb?

http://store.apple.com/us/product/FE253LL/A/refurbished-mac-pro-37ghz-quad-...
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Gavin Werbeloff, Photographer
New York | NY | USA | Posted: 2:28 PM on 10.10.14
->> The problem with that is that that MacBook Pros are limited to 16GB of RAM, which I'm not sure would be sufficient for your work. New iMacs with higher res displays are supposedly weeks away. I'd hold out if you can.
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Patrick Murphy-Racey, Photographer
Knoxville | TN | USA | Posted: 2:09 PM on 10.12.14
->> I'm in the same boat but I do a ton of HD video editing. My old machine is a 3.2Ghx 8 core with 16G RAM & my issue is speed of rendering of almost any length video. A 20 min. video export can take up to and even over an hour.

I just bought my first ever SSD drive and an aftermarket "sled" so I can get it in and out of the machine easily.

I'm hoping that this drive, once I move all the applications to it and make it my boot drive, will put off buying the little black garbage can for another year.

One of my largest issues is the lack of thunderbolt and USB 3.0. Just ingesting SD cards takes forever.

While I considered the 27" iMac with the fast processor, it's not upgradable like the mac pro and it costs the same as a stripped down entry level machine. I want to get five years out of a machine instead of two or three. mac Pro is the only option for when I do decide the pull the trigger.
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Scott Morgan, Photographer
Des Moines | IA | United States | Posted: 5:51 PM on 10.16.14
->> I think this is what you really want. http://store.apple.com/us/buy-mac/imac-retina
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Michael Clark, Photographer
Santa Fe | NM | USA | Posted: 9:23 AM on 10.17.14
->> Paul - I was in the Same boat. I had an aging Mac Pro and it was glacially slow for editing images much less working on video. I will get a Mac Pro here at some point but I thought I would give the latest MacBook Pro a go first. I also have a high end Eizo Adobe RGB monitor and wanted to continue using it since it is about as good as it gets for color management.

I bought the latest 15" top-of the line, fully decked out MacBook Pro a few weeks ago and I have to say it is quite fast. I was just working up Red 4K footage on it and it did fairly well, though I couldn't play back the footage in full res. A Mac Pro would have been better for that use but I am still not sure if it would play back the 4K footage at full res since RedCine X doesn't work with multithreaded cores yet (as far as I know).

As for still images, the MacBook Pro is more than fast enough for just about any still imaging needs. My D800 image files can get massive and the MacBook Pro never blinks.

I also had to buy a few new Thunderbolt 2 storage solutions, which are very nice but they added a huge extra expense to the upgrade. I went with the OWC Thunderbay 4 and they are spectacular and wicked fast.

Also, if you do go with a laptop, check out the vertical Henge Dock. It is a great way to dock the laptop and use it as a tower and save desk space. Check these out at
http://hengedocks.com.

Hope this helps. Cheers, Michael
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Paul DiSalvo, Photographer
Highlands Ranch | CO | United States of America | Posted: 5:56 PM on 10.17.14
->> Thanks everyone for the feedback. Glad to hear your comments Michael as I pulled the trigger on what sounds like the same MBP. I liked the separate GPU option - hopefully it's worth it. Also narrowed my search to the ThunderBay too so glad to hear it's working for you. If anyone else is following, based on what I could find on line, the MBP is plenty good for almost anything still photo related and the MacPro wins if video related. NAPP/KelbyOne had some decent Apple discounts and Apple offered 18 months/same as cash so that helped. Better go sell some photos now. Thanks again for all the good info.
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