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7D Mark II - hands on?
David Stembridge, Photographer
Waynesboro | Ga | USA | Posted: 10:05 PM on 09.16.14
->> Just curious, anyone been able to review or try out the 7D Mark II yet? It has an interesting feature, I'd love to see how well it handles low lit high school fields.

One of the most impressive things I've seen (review by Ken Rockwell): "If you've ever noticed your indoor sports shots having inconsistently weird exposure and color, it's because these lights flicker faster than our eyes can see, but at 1/125 and above, the camera sees these flickers all too well. If your camera goes off at the instant the arena lights flicker dim, you get a dim shot, and as the power supply to the arena goes about its cycle 50, 60, 100 or 120 times each second, your shots come out randomly colored and exposed. Here's something else no other camera, not even the 1D X does: you can set the 7D Mark II to adjust its shutter release timing automatically to catch the arena's lighting at just the right instant of the power cycle so that your indoor gym and swimming photos finally come out correctly! "
http://www.kenrockwell.com/canon/7d-mk-ii.htm
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Roger Davis, Photographer, Photo Editor
Russiaville | IN | USA | Posted: 12:45 PM on 09.19.14
->> Wow! I like the idea of camera synced to gym lights. I shoot a lot of competition dance and color guard where strobes are not allowed. I totally rely on the gym lighting. I have loved using my 7D cameras over the years and was looking forward to a Mark II of this popular body. My biggest disappointment from the descriptions I have read is the lack of WiFi built in. For event photography it would be nice to off-load those images as I shoot so the selling booth could get them quicker. (No, we don't shoot at camera's highest resolution - we right-size file size for the market so WiFi transfers can happen at a decent rate.) Yes, I know there are add-on options available to do the same, but I expected WiFi to be built in. My wife's cheap Samsung $170 pocket camera, WB350F, has a lot of nice WiFi features.

Still, several nice features added and not a huge price increase over the price I paid for new 7D bodies a few years ago.
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Keith Simonian, Photographer
Martinez | CA | USA | Posted: 2:19 PM on 09.19.14
->> You can compare images of the same test subject with the 7Dmk2 and many other cameras here.

http://www.imaging-resource.com/IMCOMP/COMPS01.HTM

Looks like the high ISO files from the 7Dmk2 were somewhat equal to the 1Dmk4 and below the quality of the 5Dmk3 and 1DX.
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Randy Sartin, Photographer, Assistant
Knoxville | TN | USA | Posted: 11:25 AM on 09.20.14
->> As far as I know, unless ALL of the lights are wired on the exact same circuit , I'm not sure how well this will work. You're going to have different cycles on each circuit, right?
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James Broome, Photographer
Tampa | FL | US | Posted: 7:38 PM on 09.20.14
->> Randy - That was just what I was thinking.
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Jim Karczewski, Photographer, Assistant
Hammond | IN | USA | Posted: 9:03 PM on 09.20.14
->> Well, lights run on 3 phase will give you no flickering in your photos regardless of shutter speed.

Lights wired in single and dual phase will show flicker at some point and all those shutter speeds above.

Unfortunately when schools have places lit they don't consult with (or so it seems) people to find out if it's going to cause problems for photographers.

Only other solution would be shooting it 1/60th of a second, but we know what we'll get if we do that..
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Bob Markey, Photographer
Royal Palm Beach | FL | USA | Posted: 2:09 AM on 09.22.14
->> I want to know how well this body focuses on moving subjects in dimly lighted arenas and fields and how good the high ISOs are, compared to the Mark III, Mark IV and 1DX.
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Guy Rhodes, Photographer
East Chicago | IN | USA | Posted: 12:21 PM on 09.23.14
->> "Well, lights run on 3 phase will give you no flickering in your photos regardless of shutter speed."

This is not true. Lights wired on three phase power will flicker in time with their respective phase.

For instance, if you happen to have an entire pole at a football field with all the lights on the same phase in a three phase system (as was the case at the old Brickie Bowl, I believe), you'll have entire swaths of the field that will dip into near darkness at fast shutter speeds.

Most newer light poles have all three phases fed to the light head arrays, so the flickering effect on the field is not as drastic.

Typically, you can go up to 1/125th shutter speed before the flickering becomes an issue.

I wonder if the 7D II has the ability to look at the exposure / flickering happening only under the chosen AF point? Still exciting and interesting, regardless.
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Mark Peters, Photographer
Highland | IL | USA | Posted: 11:25 AM on 09.26.14
->> From the Canon 7D mkII AF-setting guide:

"* When Anti-flicker shoot is active and you shoot under a flickering light source, the shutter-release time lag may become slightly longer. Also, the continuous shooting speed may become slightly slower, and the shooting interval may become irregular."
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Mark Peters, Photographer
Highland | IL | USA | Posted: 11:26 AM on 09.26.14
->> http://www.usa.canon.com/CUSA/assets/app/pdf/brochures/EOS_7D_Mark_II_AF_gu...
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Patrick Murphy-Racey, Photographer
Knoxville | TN | USA | Posted: 12:50 AM on 10.08.14
->> They have one in the flesh at Peter Read Miller's Sports Photography Workshop in ATL right now... I'll be down there tomorrow and will hopefully get to see it and shoot it a little...
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Max Waugh, Photographer
Bothell | WA | USA | Posted: 6:49 PM on 10.08.14
->> Wildlife photographer Andy Rouse has some early thoughts after his hands-on testing: http://www.foto-buzz.com/index.php?script=page&id=77&type=fotoskool
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Bruce Sherwood, Photographer
Carlsbad | Ca | USA | Posted: 7:01 PM on 10.08.14
->> I was able to play with one last week at the Asian Games. pretty nice little body! I couldn't believe how quiet it was, even at 5 frames per second. small enough to carry around for travel, but still not a full frame sensor.
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Patrick Murphy-Racey, Photographer
Knoxville | TN | USA | Posted: 12:22 AM on 10.09.14
->> I saw the results of the anti-flicker feature tonight with Peter Read Miller in ATL shooting outdoor sand volleyball under lights at night. It's pretty stunning how well it works even at 10 fps... impressive!
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Patrick Murphy-Racey, Photographer
Knoxville | TN | USA | Posted: 1:21 AM on 10.10.14
->> I got to shoot it today down here in ATL but not for long as we are sharing it between about 20 people. It's solid, the AF seemed extremely confident, fast, and effective. Felt to me like a crop sensor 1DX without the big camera feel and weight. I was using it on an EF300mm f/2.8L IS Mark 1 lens and it was very fast--seemed to move the focus quickly and no hunting even though I was back-lit. It's not going to compete with the 1DX for AF performance but it's a nice small camera, and a good alternative for avoiding the sticker shock of any new pro DSLR body. I was impressed at how fast it was moving the 300 from min. focus to infinity. Great to see 60P finally show up in a full HD crop body. All of the participants at Peter's workshop have access to the 7DMII but they have to pull all the metadata off the files before getting them to us so it will be a bit before anything can be put up from what I shot today. It's definitely not a minor upgrade from the original 7D!!!
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Max Waugh, Photographer
Bothell | WA | USA | Posted: 11:38 AM on 10.10.14
->> Patrick, are their any thoughts among the group on the image quality at mid-range to higher ISOs? Anyone who's owned the 7D probably has that among their chief concerns.
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Kevin Krows, Photographer
Forsyth | IL | USA | Posted: 5:00 PM on 10.10.14
->> Scott Kelby's group got a couple of pre-production models. He and Larry Becker have reviews. Links can be found on http://www.canonrumors.com/

I'll let you decide if their reviews are credible / objective or not.
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Patrick Murphy-Racey, Photographer
Knoxville | TN | USA | Posted: 2:01 PM on 10.12.14
->> http://pmrphoto.blogspot.com/2014/10/sony-a77-ii-for-sports-photography-yep...

This is a single frame uploaded in full size from the 7DMII. It's a back-lit situation, which often causes trouble for sensors to AF properly but it did great. Not a great picture but if you want to see how large the file is, try to tone it, etc... have at it.
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Randy Sartin, Photographer, Assistant
Knoxville | TN | USA | Posted: 2:56 PM on 10.12.14
->> I think Pat meant to link to this post...
http://pmrphoto.blogspot.com/2014/10/new-canon-7d-mark-ii-file-sample-in.ht...
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Patrick Murphy-Racey, Photographer
Knoxville | TN | USA | Posted: 3:23 PM on 10.13.14
->> oops, thanks Randy!!!
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Al Diaz, Photographer
Miami | Fl | USA | Posted: 4:33 PM on 10.15.14
->> Here is Peter Read Miller commenting on the 7D Mark II
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dW9-8kBcx1I
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