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1Dx or Two used Mark IV's?
Simon Wheeler, Photo Editor, Photographer
Ithaca | NY | USA | Posted: 3:03 PM on 09.06.14
->> I have an opportunity to have my company buy equipment. We could probably buy 1 1Dx or two used 1D Mark IV's.

Things to consider. I have very early deadlines. I often have to file from the field. I'm using EyeFi cards in my current 1D Mark II and III to send to my phone. It looks like the Eye-Fi and the 1Dx is problematic at the least. We can't afford the Canon WiFi transmitter.

I really like 1.3x crop factor bodies. I only have 16-35, 70-200, 300 2.8 an 85 F/1.8 and a 1.4 extender. I shoot almost everything non-sports with the two zooms, one on each body. The 1.3 crop is perfect with those two lenses. I realize I can just shoot loose with the 1dx and crop but it rubs me the wrong way. I learned to shoot with chromes and tend to want fill the frame all the time.

The sports I do shoot is really dark. I have some gyms that are 1/250 at 2.8 iso 6400. The crowd walks around at the edges of the bball court, there's nowhere safe to put up a light stand. I'm often so short on time that's an issue also. The football fields are similar in the middle and tail off in the end zones. So I'm attracted to the better low light capability of the 1Dx.

The D1x is really heavy. I'm not getting any younger.

I probably won't get another shot at a new(er) camera for 5-6 years if history is any guide or I'll get laid off and it won't matter.

Instinct tells me to get the newest and best camera, but I hate Canon for stopping making 1.3x factor bodies. I'd still have the Mark III for a second body if I get the 1Dx.

I don't like the 5d Mark III. I had one and sold it. I will probably still do video with my Nikon V1. Autofocus for video rules.

I have to put the purchase order in Monday

All help and opinions from people who have used both appreciated
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Chris McGathey, Photographer, Photo Editor
Mesquite | TX | USA | Posted: 6:37 PM on 09.06.14
->> What about the 6D? Great in low light, lightweight, has wifi, but only three frames per second for sports may be a drawback. I do know folks who are using it for a bulk of their shooting including sports and love the 6D.
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Chris McGathey, Photographer, Photo Editor
Mesquite | TX | USA | Posted: 6:39 PM on 09.06.14
->> If you don't need it right away you could see what the 7D Mark II will have if it ever gets announced and released.
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Simon Wheeler, Photo Editor, Photographer
Ithaca | NY | USA | Posted: 7:20 PM on 09.06.14
->> Chris,

I dislike the 6D even more than the 5D III. I use voice tagging a lot. It has be be weatherproof. I go back to 1995 for muscle memory on the 1 series bodies. I could work with 3/FPS but don't want to. My Minolta ran faster than that in 1984.

I don't like the look of photos from 1.6 crop factor bodies. Not enough subject background separation.
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Jeff Stanton, Photographer
Atlanta | Ga | USA | Posted: 9:40 PM on 09.06.14
->> Chris, not sure if you have ever used the 5D Mark III, but I was apprehensive about it until I had several folks on this site highly recommend it. I bought one and have been delighted with the results it has yielded. High ISOs are incredibly clean shooting in RAW and processing in Photoshop's Camera RAW plug in. When I had cameras that had voice tagging I never used it. I know how to take notes.
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Ken Shelton, Photographer
Sarasota | FL | USA | Posted: 10:19 PM on 09.06.14
->> Having two of the Mark IVs, vs one 1DX, gives the instantly available backup with all the same menu settings, button pushes, feel, etc.

As far the weight is concerned, the 1DX is 3.4# and the Mark IV is 3.1#, a difference of about 4.5 ounces. I've seen (and photographed) you Simon and it does not look like you would have any issue carrying a half dozen of those.

http://www2.backprint.com/kenshelton/125396/293

The ground finish line shots were with a Mark IV and the high finish shots with a 7D.
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Simon Wheeler, Photo Editor, Photographer
Ithaca | NY | USA | Posted: 9:27 AM on 09.07.14
->> Ken my research on B and H shows the Mark IV is 41.6 oz and the 1Dx at 54.4 oz. That's 3/4 of a pound heavier, or as much as my Nikon V1 weighs with a battery, no lens. But now I look again the Mark IV weight might be without battery.

I already messed up one shoulder carrying too heavy a Domke for years. Don't need any more issues.

I ran into member Patrick Shanahan in Best Buy last night while picking up a memory card for a Sony RX10 I'm testing and he was enthusiastic about his 1Dx.

The problem might be academic as the accounts might not let me buy a used camera.
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Christian J. Stewart, Photographer
Victoria | BC | Canada | Posted: 3:18 PM on 09.07.14
->> If you are only getting 1/250 in gyms at 6400 ISO and this is a regular venue for you, invest in the 1DX. It is a game changing camera in low light venues. I have a 1DX and a 1D4 and the X is head and shoulders better than the 1D4 in high ISO and low light sports situations (and the 1D4 is not bad in this area!).
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