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Job Rankings: Dishwasher Better Job than Photojournalist
PJ Heller, Photographer
Santa Barbara | CA | USA | Posted: 2:33 PM on 12.02.13
->> http://tinyurl.com/phwc7g7
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Ting Shen, Student/Intern, Photographer
Chicago | IL | U.S. | Posted: 2:56 PM on 12.02.13
->> But who loves doing dishwashing as a passion, a live long thing?! Maybe someone but it aint me.

I much rather be happy and fulfilled doing what I love, enduring all the hardship, instead of being packed with money, drifting around in the chaotic world in a soulless shell. I can care less of a magazine rating my job. So much generalizations. Whatever
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Thomas E. Witte, Photographer, Photo Editor
Cincinnati | OH | USA | Posted: 6:55 PM on 12.02.13
->> Ting- I'll set a calendar reminder for 5 and 10 years to come back and check on that sentiment.
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Ting Shen, Student/Intern, Photographer
Chicago | IL | U.S. | Posted: 7:46 PM on 12.02.13
->> haha I'll probably be dead by then.
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Douglas Cottle, Photographer
Tuscola | Illinois | United States | Posted: 8:16 PM on 12.02.13
->> Man, I should've kept that dishwashing job I had back in high school. Oh wait, that restaurant does not exist.
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Chuck Liddy, Photographer, Photo Editor
PLANET | EARTH | | Posted: 8:47 PM on 12.02.13
->> These stories pop up every couple of years and I just wonder where is the firm knowledge or "facts" that support them. Really?...being a dishwasher is more rewarding than being a photographer....hmmm...so here's how I think they come to these conclusions. They rent a room. Put a giant chart on the wall with 200 different jobs written on it. They then bring in a dozen chimpanzees and hand them various darts with numbers on them....then the chimps throw the darts at the wall chart. the number on the dart gives the job it's ranking. Simple......
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Blaine McCartney, Photographer
Cheyenne | WY | USA | Posted: 8:51 PM on 12.02.13
->> "....then the chimps throw the darts at the wall chart. the number on the dart gives the job it's ranking. Simple......"

Sure it's not poop they're throwing? :)
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Butch Miller, Photographer
Lock Haven | PA | USA | Posted: 8:55 PM on 12.02.13
->> Well ... I doubt the average dishwasher receives requests to share their talents gratis on a regular basis ... and I can believe there may be better job security for dishwashers than there currently is for photojournalists ... so there is a glimmer of reality somewhere in that mess ... ;-)
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Chuck Liddy, Photographer, Photo Editor
PLANET | EARTH | | Posted: 8:56 PM on 12.02.13
->> Damn Blaine! That was quick. I wondered how long before anyone got the analogy! Because that's exactly what articles like that are...."poop". BTW if ya'll wanna have fun go to the site and read the comments...they are hilarious.
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Mike Burley, Photographer
Dubuque | IA | USA | Posted: 9:31 PM on 12.02.13
->> When washing dishes for a fancy-schmancy restaurant in high school, I remember making a whopping $5.75 with a $5 tip + dinner at the end of slaving away for 8 hours in a 105 degree kitchen where the average plate sold for $55+. This was during the Clinton administration when we were in the era of milk and honey in beautiful southern California. If it sucked then.. it sucks now.
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Clark Brooks, Photo Editor, Photographer
Urbana | IL | USA | Posted: 12:11 AM on 12.03.13
->> "I doubt the average dishwasher receives requests to share their talents gratis on a regular basis..."

Granted I'm not average, but I do get requests to dishes for free on a regular basis. My wife has no qualms asking.
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Jon Cunningham, Photographer
Lisle | IL | USA | Posted: 12:30 AM on 12.03.13
->> Mine too, Clark! There's no end to those honey dos.
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Jon Cunningham, Photographer
Lisle | IL | USA | Posted: 12:50 AM on 12.03.13
->> Ironic for me to read this thread. As a teenager, I always thought that working my way across the country, earning just enough money, as a dishwasher, to move on to the next town, would be an ideal life. Then, I got a camera, and started working as a PJ. Forty-some years later, I'm not sure if there is really all that much difference, other than the enjoyment of seeing the fruits of my labor, instead of providing clean dishes. Neither endeavor seems to be the way to wealth. But then, we all have different ideas of what wealth is.
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Michael Johnson, Photographer, Photo Editor
Geneseo | NY | USA | Posted: 9:18 AM on 12.03.13
->> Funny... I worked as a dishwasher and now I'm a photojournalist. I guess I like to aim low.
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Tim Gangloff, Photographer
Knoxville | Tn | USA | Posted: 11:42 AM on 12.03.13
->> I hear dishwashers don't need a forum to continually vent about their bad dish washing experiences and those that want to do their job for free. I worked professionally one summer as a dishwasher. It was easy and mind freeing. And if the hourly pay was similar to that of your average professional photographer, I might still be interested...oh wait. Never mind.
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Ian L. Sitren, Photographer
Palm Springs | CA | USA | Posted: 12:59 PM on 12.03.13
->> Has a dishwasher ever won a Pulitzer?

Or perhaps earned $58 million in one year like Terry Richardson?

Now I will say right now that there is nothing wrong with being a dishwasher, busboy, stock clerk or holding any other rather routine job. I have been there myself, and to be honest, there is something very satisfying about it.

But I would suggest that if your choice is photographer and if you are not where you would like to be, you must look to yourself, what you are doing and how you are doing it. I know I do.

And I am not disparaging the original post, I know it was done just for interest.
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Paul W Gillespie, Photographer
Annapolis | MD | USA | Posted: 9:27 PM on 12.03.13
->> I preferred to be called a Hydro-Porcelain Technician when I had my first job as a dishwasher back in high school. It was at a pancake joint in the mid 80's. I quit to go see a Grateful Dead show. If I only knew about this magazine article back then.

And I guess you guys never frequent www*dishcleaner*com. Its just like sportsshooter only for dishwashers. Then there is the big award in dish washing, The Palmy, presented by The Palmolive Institute for Cleaner Dishes.

So yeah, it could have been pretty rewarding.
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Jim Colburn, Photographer
Omaha | NE | USA | Posted: 10:19 PM on 12.03.13
->> "Has a dishwasher ever won a Pulitzer?"

Almost certainly. I would dare to posit that just about everyone who has won a Pulitzer Prize has also washed dishes.

"Or perhaps earned $58 million in one year like Terry Richardson?"

Almost certainly. (See above)
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