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Floor access to basketball for IHSAA events, question?
Jim Karczewski, Photographer, Assistant
Hammond | IN | USA | Posted: 2:53 AM on 03.25.13
->> Does anyone know when they started sectioning off the court immediately after the game ends. I knew nothing about it (I was there 2 years ago and don't recall them doing it) I had a floor pass but wasn't able to cross the rope. Only media person allowed was the official IHSAA photographer who doesn't provide images to the media. One made it in but was quickly escorted out once they found out he had the wrong color pass.
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Jim Karczewski, Photographer, Assistant
Hammond | IN | USA | Posted: 2:54 AM on 03.25.13
->> FYI, I should had been more specific. Basketball, Finals, Boys, Indianapolis Bankers Life Fieldhouse.
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Bob Nichols, Photographer
Tipton | IN | USA | Posted: 7:25 AM on 03.25.13
->> Jim,

Last year was my first time at the basketball finals. The court was roped off after the game and we were held back as the contracted photographers from Visual Sports were able to move in close to the players. We were able to shoot a team photo after the "official" photo was taken.

Looks like last year was the first for the restricted access.
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Peter Stamenov, Photographer
Indianapolis | IN | | Posted: 10:08 AM on 03.25.13
->> Jim,
The ropes are there because there were too many parents and other people on the floor. Security has been sectioning off the court immediately after the game at least for the past 4 years.
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Jeff Stanton, Photographer
Atlanta | Ga | USA | Posted: 1:07 PM on 03.25.13
->> Jim, I was there in 2009 covering Princeton Community High School's 3A title game at the fieldhouse and after the game, I was able to walk right out on the floor and start shooting. What you experienced is apparently something new. No fans from the stands were permitted to come on to the floor and it was mostly media, IHSAA officials, teams, players, cheerleaders, etc.
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Jim Karczewski, Photographer, Assistant
Hammond | IN | USA | Posted: 1:25 PM on 03.25.13
->> Well, not even media (newspapers) can access beyond the ropes now, just the contracted photographer... Which I honestly think is BS. A Floor pass for the media is a floor pass.
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Dave Prelosky, Photographer
Lower Burrell | Pa | US | Posted: 3:22 PM on 03.25.13
->> Jim, A thought: Follow the money.
Whoever is paying the organizers will have all the access they can buy, and I'd give better than even odds the contract folks are paying for access. Call it commission or rights fee, they're still paying for access.
Media presence doesn't enter into the equation.
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Stephen DiBrito, Photographer
Elmhurst | IL | | Posted: 9:20 PM on 03.27.13
->> As a contracted photographer for IHSA events in Illinois we are responsible for post-event team pictures and trophy presentations for publicity purposes for the IHSA. So we need unobstructed floor access in order to get the teams posed with their trophies for that purpose. I always instruct the players to hold their places so the media can shoot when I am done.

It is also our only chance to get press publicity by getting our bald heads in the paper!!!

http://seasonpass.suntimes.com/news_article/show/231153?referrer_id=694563
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Jim Karczewski, Photographer, Assistant
Hammond | IN | USA | Posted: 2:16 AM on 03.28.13
->> Stephen-

Problem is the rope it off before that. There is plenty of room on the floor for the 4-7 photographers covering. I just don't like the idea that 1 person gets exclusive access and you can't even get copies for the media, should they get something better.

Secondly, I think they guy that's shooting IHSAA is clueless. I noticed that every strobe shot he fired (on an open channel no less, no custom ID) he was using 2 flashes in each corner, which produced an insane, 1/250 @ f5, ISO 125. I'm betting anything that there are 2 ports to the flash system that he was using an put a receiver or splitter on it.. So instead of getting 2 shots in a row using a MMax and Speedcycler he just got one shot with a really low ISO. I honestly don't know how the house lights @ Bankers life are setup, but that seems like overboard lighting to me.
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Will Powers, Photographer
Denver | CO | USA | Posted: 9:15 AM on 03.28.13
->> Sometimes you have to deal with the situation as it is, rather than how you want it to be. Now that you know you cannot go on the floor, next year, can you find an angle from above? In the mean time, you can fight the rule; however, it may be a situation you won't be able to change.
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Eric Francis, Photographer
Omaha | NE | United States | Posted: 9:16 AM on 03.28.13
->> How is this situation much different than dealing with ESPN at an NCAA championship event?
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Eric Canha, Photographer
Brockton | MA | United States | Posted: 10:55 AM on 03.28.13
->> Jim the setup you describe is actually pretty common.

As far as 'open' channels, in some cases a sheet is put up indicating who is on what channel so as to not jump on someone's wizard, you just add your name and channel to the list. In other cases it's simply brought up in the media room prior to the game and we all make sure we aren't on a channel being used by someone else. No one that I know of around here is on locked/custom ID channel.
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Jeff Stanton, Photographer
Atlanta | Ga | USA | Posted: 1:28 PM on 03.28.13
->> You know, I recall wanting a better vantage point of someof the post game activities and I walked up into the stands and got a number of solid images I otherwise would not have got while on the floor.
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Jim Karczewski, Photographer, Assistant
Hammond | IN | USA | Posted: 10:44 PM on 03.28.13
->> Jeff-

Security said, directly: "You have access to the floor only, you cannot go into the stands with the pass you have." Which made no sense. I went up anyway, a little sweet talking the elevator operator... and had no issues with any of the security upstairs, but down on the floor level, the explicitly said no going up into the stands, which I don't understand, especially because I wanted to hit the nosebleeds to get a shot of the whole place.
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Jeff Stanton, Photographer
Atlanta | Ga | USA | Posted: 10:55 AM on 03.29.13
->> Jim, I guess I was fortunate. I had no issues gaining access to the floor or stands.
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