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Is this the best Thunderbolt Mac CF Solution
Scott Serio, Photo Editor, Photographer
Colora | MD | USA | Posted: 7:32 PM on 03.23.13
->> I know we have covered this, but I as just wondering if anyone has found anything better. And, with this solution, does anyone think I need anything else besides this. It looks like Mac has pretty much orphaned those of us who were waiting for stunning speed from Thunderbolt and the decided to throw USB 3.0 on the newer Macs. Thoughts?

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&sku=860811&is=REG&Q=&A=d...
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Carl Auer, Photographer
Arvada | CO | USA | Posted: 10:45 PM on 03.23.13
->> I can not say anything about the performance of it, but at the USMNT and Costa Rica game last night, one of the DC United photographers sitting next to me was using this exact card reader (I was still using my older Macbook Pro with my express card reader), and I noticed a couple other photographers in the workroom using it too. It was pretty big, compared to a normal CF USB or Firewire reader. It was the first one I had seen but I did not ask him about it since I did not have Thunderbolt. But looking around online, this looks like the only option.
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Jon Blacker, Photographer
Toronto | ON | Canada | Posted: 10:49 PM on 03.23.13
->> You'd also need an ExpressCard CF reader to plug into the Sonnet Echo. The Echo is essentially just the box that holds the reader; there's nothing there to plug any type of card into. As best as I can tell, Sonnet doesn't have an ExpressCard CF reader and I know Lexar's has been discontinued. You'd also have to buy a Thunderbolt-Thunderbolt cable; the Echo doesn't come with one.

I was looking into this as a fast solution for SD cards, but $250 (for the adapter and the ExpressCard SD reader plus the Thunderbolt cable) is more than I care to spend on a card reader.
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Neil Turner, Photographer
Bournemouth | UK | United Kingdom | Posted: 9:34 AM on 03.24.13
->> I'm using the Apple Thunderbolt to Firewire 800 adapter and a Sandisk Firewire 800 card reader and getting very good speeds on my MacBook Air - certainly way better than USB and easily as good as FW800 on my old MacBook Pro. Nice, cheap and simple solution.
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Kevin Novak, Photographer, Assistant
Bel Air (Baltimore) | MD | USA | Posted: 10:37 AM on 03.24.13
->> Scott,
I use what Neil is suggesting as well. It works great on my new iMac which lacks FW ports.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&sku=885718&Q=&is=REG&A=d...
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Kevin M. Cox, Photographer
Galveston & Houston | TX | US | Posted: 2:31 PM on 03.24.13
->> I'm also using the Apple Thunderbolt to Firewire Adapter with a Lexar Firewire 800 CF card reader and it works great.
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Robert O'Rourk, Photographer
Setauket | NY | USA | Posted: 3:17 PM on 03.24.13
->> On the iMac, a USB3 card reader is quite fast. I have both a Sony XQD and a Lexar dual slot CF/SD to accomodate my needs. Both work faster than older solutions.
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Patrick Fallon, Photographer, Assistant
Torrance | California | USA | Posted: 5:24 PM on 03.24.13
->> Anyone else notice a bit of a delay using the Apple Thunderbolt to Firewire 800 adapter and a Sandisk Firewire 800 for the cards to mount? I'll plug a card in and it flashes, but takes a while to appear sometime.
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Ting Shen, Student/Intern, Photographer
Chicago | IL | U.S. | Posted: 7:39 PM on 03.24.13
->> My experience using it, hmm, it's performance is okay, still bottlenecked by the expresscard's reading speed. The whole thing is still way to bulky, plus the designs of most of the express-card CF readers are too fragile to simply shove it in the camera bag on deadline and stuff. I'm planning on selling mine, and now I'm using two Delock FW CF card readers, one plugged into the MBP with the Thunderbolt-FW adaptor (early 2011 when there wasn't USB 3.0 yet)

And yes, it does take a bit time for the adaptor connect CF cards to be recognized by the system.
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Ting Shen, Student/Intern, Photographer
Chicago | IL | U.S. | Posted: 7:40 PM on 03.24.13
->> This might be better(hope it doesnt need external power source...)


http://store1.sonnettech.com/product_info.php?products_id=453
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G.J. McCarthy, Photographer
Dallas | TX | US | Posted: 7:55 PM on 03.24.13
->> Uhm, anyone who spends $600 on a card reader should be slapped across the face with a rubber chicken.
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Jack Kurtz, Photographer
Bangkok | Bangkok | Thailand | Posted: 8:48 PM on 03.24.13
->> Wow, for that it must be really good.

It has four slots. Which is only about $175 per card. That's much better. :)

With that I could buy 28 USB3 readers (14 of the Hoodman readers). Or 70 pizzas. Or 1 pizza and 500 beers.
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Corey Perrine, Photographer
Naples | FL | USA | Posted: 10:57 PM on 03.24.13
->> You have a Thunderbolt to Firewire800 adapter?

Correct me if I'm wrong, the USB 3.0 is already faster than the FW800.

Wouldn't it best to use the already available USB 3.0?

http://terrywhite.com/firewire-800-vs-usb-3-which-is-faster/
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Ting Shen, Student/Intern, Photographer
Chicago | IL | U.S. | Posted: 12:52 AM on 03.25.13
->> @corey,

My MBP was the Sandy Bridge chipset when intel hasn't built in the native support of USB 3.0, one generation before Ivy Bridge when it finally happened. Naturally, if it's not natively supported, Apple wont do it.

Although I would love to use a USB 3.0 card reader and enjoy the speed, unfortunately, it will only run on USB2.0 standards on my MBP. Plus, I haven't seen any thunderbolt to USB3.0 adaptor on the market yet. Or else I'll be one the the few to jump on it.
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Corey Perrine, Photographer
Naples | FL | USA | Posted: 12:58 AM on 03.25.13
->> Thank you Ting.

Technology seems to be a huge endless abyss sometimes.

Every few months, if you don't keep up, one can get lost quick.

Again, appreciate it.

C
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Neil Turner, Photographer
Bournemouth | UK | United Kingdom | Posted: 6:10 AM on 03.25.13
->> We did a 'real world' test between USB3 and FW800 on two very similarly spec'd 11" MacBook Airs (the one with USB3 was slightly higher spec'd) and there was nothing to choose between them. It's amazing what you get up to on a boring night at the Olympics...
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G.J. McCarthy, Photographer
Dallas | TX | US | Posted: 11:41 AM on 03.25.13
->> Neil -- funny.

Wondering if anyone else has had the same bad luck with the current crop of 3.0 readers that I have. I think I've had like one or two Lexars, and at least one of those Hoodman ones crap out on me over the last short while. Hopefully it's not something I'm doing; I try to be careful with my gear.

So that said, I'm still rocking along with my tank of a Lexar 800, and it's the reason why I wish I had a second one, or could find a viable alternative to it that wasn't used or super expensive.

At someone's recommendation from the thread I posted about firewire recently, I tried hooking up said 800 reader to my MBP with a thunderbolt adapter and it was pretty darned fast. Shaved off a good three or four minutes, maybe more, from what I get with just a straight 800.

Anyway, good info here. Thanks for sharing, all.

- gerry -
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Garrett Hubbard, Photographer
Washington | D.C. | USA | Posted: 3:51 PM on 03.25.13
->> Gerry,

I've had good luck so far with my Lexar USB 3.0. not so much with the Hoodman USB 3.0 which was D.O.A.
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Scott Serio, Photo Editor, Photographer
Colora | MD | USA | Posted: 5:21 PM on 03.25.13
->> So...basically...

I have a MBP that has FW800. I am just better off sticking with that for the money or until I upgrade to a MBP that handles USB 3.0.

I am generally very happy with Apple products to a fault, but their handling of the Thunderbolt is has pissed me off.
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Jeff Kowalsky, Photographer
West Bloomfield | MI | United States | Posted: 5:23 PM on 03.25.13
->> I have had no luck with the Sandisk USB 3.0 imagemate all in ones.
Each one suffered bent pins with in a week of using them.
They were fast before the pins bent.
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Jack Kurtz, Photographer
Bangkok | Bangkok | Thailand | Posted: 9:37 PM on 03.25.13
->> I had the opposite experience of Garrett, a DOA Lexar USB3 reader and a Hoodman that worked nicely (until recently).

The Lexar needed a firmware upgrade to work, but none of my Macs could do the upgrade because they couldn't see the card reader. Lexar suggested this was a Mac problem and had no other suggestions besides using a Windows computer. Pass on Lexar (coincidently, I've also had problems with Lexar cards).

The Hoodman worked well until recently. Now it imports part of a card then stops, dismounts the card and says it's done. I put the card back in and it still won't finish the import.

I've gone back to using my trusty SanDisk FW800 reader. That thing is bulletproof.
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