Story   Photographer   Editor   Student/Intern   Assistant   Job/Item

SportsShooter.com: The Online Resource for Sports Photography

Contents:
 Front Page
 Member Index
 Latest Headlines
 Special Features
 'Fun Pix'
 Message Board
 Polls
 Educate Yourself
 Equipment Profiles
 Bookshelf
 my.SportsShooter
 Classified Ads
 Workshop
 Sponsors
 Special Offers
 Our Store
Contests:
 Monthly Clip Contest
 Student Contest
 Annual Contest
 Rules/Info
Newsletter:
 Current Issue
 Back Issues
 Subscribe
Members:
 Members Area
 "The Guide"
 Join
About Us:
 About SportsShooter
 Contact Us
 Terms & Conditions


Sign in:
Members log in here with your user name and password to access the your admin page and other special features.

Name:



Password:







||
SportsShooter.com: Member Message Board

What It Feels Like To Be Photographed In A Moment Of Grief
Bradly J. Boner, Photographer, Photo Editor
Jackson | WY | USA | Posted: 3:16 PM on 01.28.13
->> http://tinyurl.com/a3w5uwr
 This post is:  Informative (0) | Funny (0) | Huh? (0) | Off Topic (0) | Inappropriate (0) |   Definitions

Chuck Liddy, Photographer, Photo Editor
PLANET | EARTH | | Posted: 3:39 PM on 01.28.13
->> Interesting. I happen to agree with Irby on this (a rare event). Our policy is we have to have names. If we don't the photo doesn't run. If someone refuses to give their name we put that info in the caption IF the photo is deemed important enough to run. Much like our story policy...no anonymous sources allowed. I think it's a good policy. I've always had an issue with wire service guys saying, "I don't need the names."
 This post is:  Informative (1) | Funny (0) | Huh? (0) | Off Topic (0) | Inappropriate (0) |   Definitions

Brian Blanco, Photographer
Tampa / Sarasota | FL | USA | Posted: 4:02 PM on 01.28.13
->> I trust Emmanuel's judgment; the guy is the real deal, has decades of experience and is a true professional. If he felt that the right course of action was to leave her alone and not ask her name, then that was the right call.

In fact, that's very likely exactly what I would have done too because the moment she started talking to him, she likely would have been swarmed by the TV crews in the background. I wasn't there but I have no doubt that he was respecting her and protecting her by not approaching her.
 This post is:  Informative (0) | Funny (0) | Huh? (0) | Off Topic (0) | Inappropriate (0) |   Definitions

Bradly J. Boner, Photographer, Photo Editor
Jackson | WY | USA | Posted: 4:45 PM on 01.28.13
->> In a situation like this I probably would've waited until she was done and approached her after she had walked away from the scene. I think it would've been the respectful thing to do, but that's just me.

I'm not saying what Emmanuel did was right or wrong, but I just think it's important to have names when they're readily attainable, particularly since I work for a small, community newspaper.
 This post is:  Informative (0) | Funny (0) | Huh? (0) | Off Topic (0) | Inappropriate (0) |   Definitions

Simon Wheeler, Photo Editor, Photographer
Ithaca | NY | USA | Posted: 5:19 PM on 01.28.13
->> There seems to be a double standard here. I one works for the local paper the picture is unpublishable without a name. If one works for the big out of town organization the photo gets a sort of generic quality to it and names are not required. I hope I would have done at Bradly suggests and introduced my self by name and organization and then asked for her name after she had walked away from the moment.
 This post is:  Informative (2) | Funny (0) | Huh? (0) | Off Topic (0) | Inappropriate (0) |   Definitions

Will Powers, Photographer
Denver | CO | USA | Posted: 6:46 PM on 01.28.13
->> I think it is always appropriate to try and get a name.

From the description though, I thought she was being photographed by the hoard of photographers (click, click, click, click, click, click, click,) but it seems that Emmanuel was alone.

Most people don't seem to understand that if they are in a public place they can be photographed for editorial photos. Approaching also gives the photographer a chance to explain the rights if the photographer is so inclined.
 This post is:  Informative (0) | Funny (0) | Huh? (2) | Off Topic (0) | Inappropriate (0) |   Definitions

Michael Fischer, Photographer
Spencer | Ia | USA | Posted: 10:48 PM on 01.28.13
->> I'm with Bradley in this one. I would have made the image and then withdrawn and found her away from the other journalists - it would have avoided the scrum.

It almost goes without saying that the more the situation makes you uncomfortable, the more likely it is you have to cover it professionally - and that includes getting IDs. Has covering tough stories changed me? Forever. Hard to do sometimes ? Yes. But... the hard part is what separates the pros from the amateurs.

The Tom Hanks line in "A League of Their Own" says it best:
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

In other words, when it's hard is when you have to try your best.
 This post is:  Informative (0) | Funny (0) | Huh? (0) | Off Topic (0) | Inappropriate (0) |   Definitions

Kent Nishimura, Student/Intern, Photographer
Honolulu | HI | USA | Posted: 11:32 PM on 01.28.13
->> hindsight is 20/20, and its real easy to say "shoulda, coulda, woulda..." without being there and actually experiencing the situation at hand. that being said, once we've experienced it we should learn from it and move forward. I can't begin to imagine what it felt like in Newton...Thank you Emmanuel for being there.
 This post is:  Informative (3) | Funny (0) | Huh? (0) | Off Topic (0) | Inappropriate (0) |   Definitions

Victor Biro, Photographer
Toronto | ON | Canada | Posted: 12:31 AM on 01.29.13
->> I think the following quote reveals a lot about the public's perception of photojournalists in these circumstances:

"I understand the poignancy of capturing a moment," she says. "Photography is incredibly powerful when used appropriately, and all I am saying is, how about a little respect? Say who you are and get out of the bushes."

'Just doing my job' is a cop-out in my opinion.

Describing photojournalism as just getting a picture of what happened is a pretty minimalist description. A guy with a well timed picture on is phone can do that.

The difference between some guy with a camera-phone and a photojournalist is their ability to tell a story with a picture, and in the linked story Dunand has nailed it with that picture.

I think we have all faced those situations: a scenario where interacting with the subject of a powerful picture may risk an uncomfortable interaction, and one that may make you wish that you hadn't.

Interestingly enough, the subject of Dunand's shot - by the sound of her comment - may have liked being used to represent the grief that the community was experiencing.

The problem is that she seems to have seen Dunand as some guy hiding in the bushes like he was trying to get topless shots of Kate topless on a beach.
 This post is:  Informative (0) | Funny (0) | Huh? (0) | Off Topic (0) | Inappropriate (0) |   Definitions

Frank Niemeir, Photographer
Woodstock | GA | usa | Posted: 10:19 AM on 01.29.13
->> "...but there is a sense of privacy in a moment like that ..."

I would have got a name, but I can count about six television cameramen in the background, and probably another 15 or so photographers were there to the right in the photo and behind Dunand, so I just don't get how "private" she thought the moment was. If only Durand was there, maybe she wouldn't have noticed, but if there were 15 to 20 photographers on the scene of course she would hear " 'clickclickclickclickclick' " And that she was there " After about 45 minutes ... " you would think she might have noticed the presence of the media.
 This post is:  Informative (1) | Funny (0) | Huh? (0) | Off Topic (0) | Inappropriate (0) |   Definitions

Add your comments...
If you'd like to add your comments to this thread, use this form. You need to be an active (paying) member of SportsShooter.com in order to post messages to the system.

NOTE: If you would like to report a problem you've found within the SportsShooter.com website, please let us know via the 'Contact Us' form, which alerts us immediately. It is not guaranteed that a member of the staff will see your message board post.
Thread Title: What It Feels Like To Be Photographed In A Moment Of Grief
Thread Started By: Bradly J. Boner
Message:
Member Login:
Password:


|| Sponsor Special Deals

Redrock Mircro DSLR Cinema Bundle
Available from: Samy's Camera | Price: $2443.95
Notes: SAMY'S CARRIES THE FULL LINE OF REDROCK MICRO PRODUCTS!! The Redrock DSLR Cinema Bundle is a comprehensive package for converting video DSLRs to useful cinema production tools. This bundle is compatible with most video DSLRs including the Nikon D90 and Canon 5D Mark II.
-- More Info --



Return to -->
Message Board Main Index
Chris Covatta thinks Arthur Bryant's BBQ is better than Gates Ask him why! ::..