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Film Bulk Loader
Michael L. Palmieri, Photographer
Barnegat | NJ | USA | Posted: 6:30 AM on 01.09.13
->> William DeShazer is selling a bulk loader in the classifieds. I haven't seen one in ages, but man did it quickly bring me back to college. Getting stuck rolling film for the week's assignments at Penn State's Daily Collegian. What a major PITA! Like Billy Joel said, "the good old days weren't always good."
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Tim Hynds, Photo Editor, Photographer
Sioux City | IA | USA | Posted: 11:05 AM on 01.09.13
->> That Watson loader was the good one!

But for God's sake, don't drop those reloadable film cassettes. Especially those cheaply-built Kodak ones. Those of us over a certain age know what happened if you drop one......
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Paul DiSalvo, Photographer
Highlands Ranch | CO | United States of America | Posted: 11:21 AM on 01.09.13
->> Having to remember not to shoot to the end of the roll since the last few inches were already exposed and yes to Tim's point - sometimes they only needed a nudge in the wrong direction.
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G.J. McCarthy, Photographer
Dallas | TX | US | Posted: 11:22 AM on 01.09.13
->> Michael -- had the same thought. Will's a good friend, so I'm already making fun of him on Facebook.

Kidding, definitely brings back great memories. Funny thing is I never spent the money on the reusable film canisters. My profs at UT just had us go down to the one-hour photo place on the drag and take their empties. It was a great system -- we saved money, they got rid of trash.

Good luck selling this, Will. If I didn't already have a couple, I'd totally buy this for nostalgic purposes.
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John H. Reid III, Photographer
Gates Mills | OH | USA | Posted: 11:54 AM on 01.09.13
->> When you dropped an exposed cartridge you were lucky if your pictures only got the Holga look...
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David Hungate, Photographer
Roanoke | VA | United States | Posted: 11:59 AM on 01.09.13
->> The reloadable cassettes were at times temperamental. But they were so easy to open. Just slam the stem on the counter, tear off the leader with your teeth and spool it on the reel. Drop it in the soup for about 10 minutes and you've got negs.

And to this day, I can still smell stop bath in the back of my throat. It is a memory that has lingered all these years. (Much like the smell of Chanel perfume on the neck of this lovely young lady who decided to spend some time with me in an equally creative dark room. But that story is for another forum....)
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Tim Vizer, Photographer
Belleville | IL | USA | Posted: 12:27 PM on 01.09.13
->> We taped the ends of the cartridges to keep them on. I still have two or maybe three bulk loaders in a box in the attic. Had to bulk load at college AND at my first newspaper to save money.
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Gene Boyars, Photographer
Matawan | NJ | United States | Posted: 12:39 PM on 01.09.13
->> I was especially fond of the lovely scratches they left on the film after 2-3 cycles because someone was too cheap to replace them more often.
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Bob Ford, Photographer
Lehighton | Pa | USA | Posted: 12:42 PM on 01.09.13
->> I still have one in my desk drawer somewhere.
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Brett Groehler, Photographer
Duluth | MN | USA | Posted: 1:06 PM on 01.09.13
->> Ah Yes I remember.. Now you need PhotoShop to get that look from a scratched roll or a light leak from a bad cartridge!
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G.J. McCarthy, Photographer
Dallas | TX | US | Posted: 3:08 PM on 01.09.13
->> "Now you need PhotoShop to get that look from a scratched roll or a light leak from a bad cartridge!"

Nope -- now there's an app for that. Like, 5,000 apps for that, to be precise.

In fact, someone told me the other day there's a "tintype" app ... you know, to make that photo of your cat or what you had for dinner look like it was shot in the 19th century.

Sigh ...
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Andrew Scott, Photo Editor, Photographer
McLean | VA | United States | Posted: 3:20 PM on 01.09.13
->> "Never used."

Sigh...kids these days.
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Tommy Metthe, Photographer
Abilene | TX | | Posted: 4:39 PM on 01.09.13
->> I still have mine somewhere in my garage too

I remember at my college paper we had prepaid envelopes for color film, so before football games we'd put as much film as we could into the film cassettes, because we were only budgeted to develop two rolls of film per photog per game. It almost turned into a game to see how many frames one could fit into the cartridge and it still work.
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Butch Miller, Photographer
Lock Haven | PA | USA | Posted: 5:09 PM on 01.09.13
->> If you loaded the cassettes in the dark ... you didn't have to worry about exposing the tail and could shoot the entire length ...

It's hard to imagine the miles of film I rolled in 24 years of shooting film for newsprint ... though, I was glad when Kodak came out with P3200 ... because it wasn't available in bulk so the paper could only buy it in factory loads ... ;-)

No longer having to spend so much time rolling film, was one of the major benefits I relished when we finally closed down the darkroom in 2000 ...
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Michael Fischer, Photographer
Spencer | Ia | USA | Posted: 5:18 PM on 01.09.13
->> Jeeez Tommy.. 2 rolls? I would have shot with a Olympus Pen F in half frame.. I would have won the "game" every time.:)

As for bulk loading... do I have to remember :P ?

I worked in a photo store and certainly remember buying Tri X in 100 ft rolls. We had Plus X also but who the heck bought that? Oh yeah... now I remember.. cute girls taking photography classes at the University of Miami. Thank goodness those cassettes would fail... I was in need every semester :)
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Michael McNamara, Photographer, Photo Editor
Phoenix | AZ | USA | Posted: 5:19 PM on 01.09.13
->> As for the reloadable cartridges, I had a few pop open on me, so I started going to a local camera shop, and they'd let me take their empty cartridges. They'd run them through the Noritsu, and when the machine was done, they'd drop them in a box to recycle with Kodak. They always had a leader sticking out about half an inch that you could tape your bulk film to. Worked like a charm!
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Sam Morris, Photographer
Henderson (Las Vegas) | NV | USA | Posted: 5:30 PM on 01.09.13
->> McNamara, that was genius. Never even considered that. Although I only had one that I dropped, and being a crappy wild art feature I didn't care much. After that I started putting a little scotch tape on the metal rings.

I also heard it was possible to load film while driving from Ames to Des Moines when you were running late...
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Jim Colburn, Photographer
Omaha | NE | USA | Posted: 5:49 PM on 01.09.13
->> Ilford 35mm film cassettes were great because they were designed to be reloadable, and the company used to do certain common emulsions on a really thin film base so you could load 72 frames into a normal 35mm cassette.

I bought a couple of bulk rolls of HP3 in college and when you souped that stuff in Rodinol 1:25 you got very sharp grain the size of tennis balls. Of course, there's probably a PS filter for that now.
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Nick Wass, Photographer
Wheaton | MD | USA | Posted: 5:49 PM on 01.09.13
->> i loved bulk loading b and w film in college-i could shoot as much as i wanted but developing was a bit of a pain especially if you had an odd number and risked the ole emulsion to emulsion double roll
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William DeShazer, Photographer
Naples | FL | US | Posted: 5:51 PM on 01.09.13
->> I'm glad I could add to all of your daily enjoyment. If anyone wants some more nestalgia it's still for sale and I did find the reusable cases......
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Jeff Gammons, Photographer
Destin | Fl | USA | Posted: 6:28 PM on 01.09.13
->> Im not sure about everyone else, but i still have and use one regular, just loaded about 20 rolls with some tmax 100...

My F5 eats the stuff.
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Michael L. Palmieri, Photographer
Barnegat | NJ | USA | Posted: 7:17 PM on 01.09.13
->> I still think that amongst all of the on-the-job cameras I've used, my F5 was by far my favorite of all time. I loved my F3 press edition, but damn that F5 was fantastic.
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Baron Sekiya, Photographer, Photo Editor
Hilo | HI | USA | Posted: 8:53 PM on 01.09.13
->> Like Jim I loved the sturdy Ilford carts for reloading. Of course we'd run into a newbie who would load a cartridge with the Watson's gate closed. Railroad tracks on the film.

One good use for the old catridges was the use the felt on the catridge lips to replace the sponge/felt light gasket on a camera door/hinge area.

I'm still reminded of stop bath whenever I smell lemon or orange chicken sauce.
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Clark Brooks, Photo Editor, Photographer
Urbana | IL | USA | Posted: 8:53 PM on 01.09.13
->> Bought my first bulk loader at the age of 16. Bought all my film (supplies and chemicals, too) at dealer cost ~ benefit working at camera stores in olden days ~ during my junior and senior year of high school. Ran through 100' roll of Tri-X a week. Avoided Kodak's cassettes after watching one explode open on impact. Instead I ordered Watson cassettes or reused Fuji and Ilford's. Still have a bulk loader packed away in the attic in case of Zombie Armageddon.
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Baron Sekiya, Photographer, Photo Editor
Hilo | HI | USA | Posted: 8:56 PM on 01.09.13
->> Even though I'm a Canon user I must admit the Nikon F3 with that drive was the best sounding camera. It's the camera foley artists should record for whenever they need to simulate a shutter sound for a photojournalist's camera.
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Al Goldis, Photographer
East Lansing | MI | USA | Posted: 9:12 PM on 01.09.13
->> My favorite was working with a guy bulk loading reusable cassettes for everyone. He was "trying to save tape" and ended up wasting a bunch of FILM because it would pull off the spool at the end of the roll.
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David A. Cantor, Photographer, Photo Editor
Toledo | OH | USA | Posted: 12:04 PM on 01.10.13
->> BITD - 100' of Tri-X = $8.95 (about .50 per roll)
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