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Canon Mark IV Killing Lexar Cards
Sam Craft, Photographer, Photo Editor
Paris | TX | U.S | Posted: 4:22 PM on 12.27.12
->> This is the second time in the past 3 weeks. My Canon Mark Iv has killed a Lexar 16GB CF UDMA 7 800x card. Was shooting fine, then between frames and this message pops up "Card1 cannot be accessed, Reinsert/change the card or format with camera." Mac nor windows will see the card, the camera will not format it and Image Rescues see's it but can't recover any of my images and it's format/erase function does nothing to help. Any ideas or help would be great. Thanks.
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Jim Colburn, Photographer
Omaha | NE | USA | Posted: 4:36 PM on 12.27.12
->> Does Lexar and/or Canon know about this?
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Sam Craft, Photographer, Photo Editor
Paris | TX | U.S | Posted: 4:42 PM on 12.27.12
->> I have contacted Canon with no luck and haven't had a chance to speak with Lexar. The little bit of research I've had to do I haven't found this specific issue yet. But I've been running around today reshooting assignments on another card so I haven't had much time.
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Andrew Carpenean, Photographer
Golden | CO | USA | Posted: 5:04 PM on 12.27.12
->> Here I thought it was a problem with a new card I bought last summer (Lexar 16GB UDMA). Although after reading your thread Sam perhaps it's an issue with the Mark IV.
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Sam Craft, Photographer, Photo Editor
Paris | TX | U.S | Posted: 5:05 PM on 12.27.12
->> Andrew I first thought it was the card as well, but after the same thing happening AGAIN I'm thinking the camera as well. I've spoke to Canon again and it's going to the shop today to get checked out. Lexar is still no show on the phone.
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Willis Glassgow, Photo Editor, Photographer
Florence | SC | USA | Posted: 5:27 PM on 12.27.12
->> Sam....its' the card. I had the same thing happen to me with Lexar cards.
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Wally Nell, Photographer
SAN DIEGO | CA | USA | Posted: 5:36 PM on 12.27.12
->> Used to have Lexar cards and almost all of them had trouble. Changed to Sandisk and have not looked back. Something about Lexars and Canon, ...
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Sam Craft, Photographer, Photo Editor
Paris | TX | U.S | Posted: 5:53 PM on 12.27.12
->> Either way it was having some focusing issues (Shocker) so it's going to Canon. I've shot Lexar for years and never had this issue, so what is a good replacement for Lexar?
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Doug Strickland, Photographer
Texarkana | TX | USA | Posted: 6:18 PM on 12.27.12
->> Sam, I have used Sandisk for years and never had trouble. I would recommend trying them out.
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Bob Levey, Photographer
Richmond/Houston | TX | USA | Posted: 6:31 PM on 12.27.12
->> I have had similar issues with my Lexar cards and Mark IV's lately!!
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Chuck Steenburgh, Photographer
Lexington | VA | USA | Posted: 6:38 PM on 12.27.12
->> Another member has reported trouble with this 800x card and the Nikon D800. Might be coincidence, but then again...

http://www.sportsshooter.com/message_display.html?tid=41023
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Andrew Nelles, Photographer
Chicago | IL | usa | Posted: 7:10 PM on 12.27.12
->> I've owned many Sandisk cards, and just a few Lexars.

Every Lexar I have owned had issues at least once. My Sandisks have never had any issue at all.

Lexar was always quick to replace them, but they've lost me as a customer.
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Jim Karczewski, Photographer, Assistant
Hammond | IN | USA | Posted: 7:20 PM on 12.27.12
->> One of the stringers I know had the same issue and didn't know if it was his card reader or the card/camera. I think this pretty much says what it is now. That really sucks though. No issues here with the 1Dx and the 1000x cards, yet...
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Jack Kurtz, Photographer
Bangkok | Bangkok | Thailand | Posted: 7:41 PM on 12.27.12
->> I've had a couple of Lexar cards and had problems with them. I have close to 60 SanDisk cards of various sizes and ages. Never had a problem with any of them. I had a Lexar USB3 card reader that needed a firmware update. My Macs (three of them) couldn't see the reader to update the firmware. I called Lexar and was told I should restart the Mac and reset the PRAM. To update the firmware on a card reader. I've found it easier and more reliable to stick with SanDisk.
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Sam Craft, Photographer, Photo Editor
Paris | TX | U.S | Posted: 8:31 PM on 12.27.12
->> After reading all the responses, I have to assume it's the cards as well. My older Lexar cards are fine, just the newer ones I've had issues with. Just by chance they were all in my Mark IV and not either one of my Mark III's.

Either way after lossing numerous images and assignments I'm going to cut my lexar ties and switch over to Sandisk. Thanks for everyones input on the matter.
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Tim Casey, Photographer
Gainesville | FL | USA | Posted: 10:12 PM on 12.27.12
->> Sam, I had the same thing happen to the exact same CFC model recently. Strange because I've only used Lexar for the last 5 years and never had an issue. I've had the MkIV for a well over a year too, so I assumed that specific card had died. Looks like I'll start making the switch back to Sandisk.
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Max Gersh, Photographer
Rockford | IL | USA | Posted: 10:41 PM on 12.27.12
->> I may be way off on this but I remember a shooter once telling me that the way Lexar cards were built or formatted or something were more likely to have issues with Canon cameras than Nikon. Sandisk cards were apparently built more Canon friendly. I have no idea if this is or ever was true but I've always played it safe and only bought Sandisk. I've never once had a problem.
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Tareq Abdulla, Photographer
Aljurf | Ajman | United Arab Emirates | Posted: 10:15 AM on 12.28.12
->> I see that Lexar cards have issues recently on more sites, Sandisk i didn't hear issues yet, so this clearly will make me to stay with Sandisk and forget about Lexar, we don't have customer services here where i can return defective cards if happened, so i can't risk to buy Lexar card online then i pay more to ship it back and get the replacement or even buy another one working flawlessly.
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G.J. McCarthy, Photographer
Dallas | TX | US | Posted: 10:44 AM on 12.28.12
->> Sam -- good luck amigo. Like others on here, I switched over to Sandisk cards a while back and have had no problems like I did with Lexar over the years. Maybe it is a Canon/Nikon thing, but that just seems silly to me. Too bad for Lexar.

Hope all is well in my old stomping grounds!
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Peter Buehner, Photographer
Orono | ME | USA | Posted: 10:51 AM on 12.28.12
->> Sandisk and Canon Mark IV combo for four years now and never a single problem.
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Tony Leon, Photographer
Whittier | CA | United States | Posted: 10:53 AM on 12.28.12
->> Once is an anomaly, twice is coincidence, three is a trend.

I had issues with Lexar cards as far back as the original 1D. Blamed it on new technology then, digital was still in it's infancy compared to now. Lexar replaced the card No Questions asked
I had a different Lexar card go bad on my 1DMKIIN during an assignment, and had it happen again on a MKIII.

I switched to Sandisk and never looked back.

I do follow a couple of strict guidelines with my cards, I always format the card twice when getting ready for a shoot, and I mate my cards to specific cameras.
I don't switch cards between bodies.

Sounds expensive but with the price of media now, and a bit of inconvenience, but it's a small safeguard.
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Gregory Greene, Photographer
Durham | NH | USA | Posted: 11:02 AM on 12.28.12
->> Long time Sandisk user here but have recently been shooting with Lexar 1000x cards in my 1DX and have not seen any problems. Very fast buffer clearing. Time will tell whether it was the right move or not.
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James Broome, Photographer
Tampa | FL | US | Posted: 11:21 AM on 12.28.12
->> No issues with the MKIV and Sandisk here either.

Peter - Do you mean 3 years? The Mark IV was released in December of 2009.
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Vinny Carchietta, Photographer
Mine Hill | NJ | USA | Posted: 11:13 PM on 12.29.12
->> Wow - not a coincidence I found this thread. I have 3 dead Lexar Professional 16GB. All went corrupt in my Mark IV's. I was worried it was the camera or the reader beating on these cards.

2 CF 300x cards and 1 SD 400x; Two were recovered, yet unusable. One lost & unrecoverable with some very emotional and strong images from Point Pleasant, NJ after Hurricane Sandy.

This is not proof that the Iv's and Lexar's conflict or corrupt, but it maybe time to switch to Scan Disk.

Thanks for bringing this up Sam.
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Karen Warren, Photographer
Houston | TX | USA | Posted: 9:40 AM on 12.30.12
->> WOW! I just saw this post, and this has happened to two of my cards....I just shipped off the camera to CPS. We'll see what they say!
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Peter Buehner, Photographer
Orono | ME | USA | Posted: 11:48 AM on 12.30.12
->> James, what I actually meant is that the three years felt like four...or that when I look at the money I made, I assumed that it must have been at least four or five years of work :P
I stand corrected.
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Keith Lucas, Photographer
Verona | VA | USA | Posted: 12:09 PM on 12.30.12
->> Wow...I just purchased several of these cards for my Mark IV...after years of being a SanDisk user, I just decided on a whim to try the Lexar as many of my friends have been using them....hmm...now I am gun shy...I used the Lexar in three jobs recently and no problems. Maybe its back to SanDisk
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Phil Hawkins, Photographer
Fresno | ca | usa | Posted: 12:58 PM on 12.30.12
->> I still have old SanDisk cards (as emergency backups) some of which are 10 years old that I put through the washing machine and are still working without a problem. I think I saw a story several years ago where a news photographer got shot covering combat, and the SanDisk card took some of the lead and had a big dent in it and still worked! Could be urban legend... but there's no doubt they can take a licking and keep on ticking.
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Victor Biro, Photographer
Toronto | ON | Canada | Posted: 10:14 PM on 12.30.12
->> Regarding recovery, if you aren't having any luck with your existing recovery tools, you may want to try Trinity Rescue Kit: http://trinityhome.org

It is free of charge and includes a collection of free and open source tools that have worked wonders for me when I lost a HD.

The 'testdisk' utility will dig down several generations to recover lost partitions.
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Chuck Steenburgh, Photographer
Lexington | VA | USA | Posted: 10:04 AM on 01.02.13
->> I reached out to a well-placed contact at Lexar, who said he's not aware of any widespread issues but that anyone having problems could contact him directly. Rather than post his contact info here, email me through my member page and I'll put you in touch with him. He's been of help in the past with card issues.
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Donald Montague, Photographer
Orlando | FL | | Posted: 11:59 PM on 01.02.13
->> thanks to the incredible deal on black Friday and cyber Monday, I picked up a pair of the Lexar 16GB CF 800x cards. after reading other members problems I knew I better be prepared in case the mystery problem attacks my mark IV.
Well I didn’t have to wait long. Less than 1 week later, ERROR “card cannot be accessed”

I switched over to a different card and no problems. About 80% of my cards are SanDisk and I have had zero problems with any of them over the last 10 years or so since I made the switch over from film. I have heard of other shooter having bad cards with cheap knock off brand cards but never on a Sandisk or Pro Lexar cards.
It has to be something with the newer cards that is affecting this problem on the mark IV. Hopefully Lexar will own up to this problem, so we don’t have another issure like the focus problems on the Mark III
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Armando Solares, Photographer
Englewood | FL | USA | Posted: 1:22 AM on 01.03.13
->> I was a loyal Sandisk customer for many years and though nothing has gone wrong with any of the cards I own. I started switching to 16GB Transcend cards. They are cheaper and just as well made as Sandisk. I've had some of the Transcend cards for over two years now with no problems (knocking on wood.)The only two Lexar cards I owned both just stopped working.
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Karen Warren, Photographer
Houston | TX | USA | Posted: 5:55 PM on 01.03.13
->> I just got my camera back from Canon. They replaced the motherboard. (It had been giving me an error 2, after eating two of my 16g Lexar cards)....We had another photographer lose three cards in the last 10 days. He thought it might be the card reader. He was not getting the "error 2" message--but the cards he was using were Hoodman, Delkin, and Sandisk, with his Mark IV.
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Sam Craft, Photographer, Photo Editor
Paris | TX | U.S | Posted: 10:56 PM on 01.10.13
->> Update, just got my Mark IV back from Canon. They did end up replacing the main circuit board. Result, one dead card works again, one does still does not.
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Jim Colburn, Photographer
Omaha | NE | USA | Posted: 12:14 PM on 01.11.13
->> Some folks in the production audio community are complaining about Lexar cards failing in their high-end digital recorders (Sound Devices and Zaxcom). Problem solved when they change to SanDisk.
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Clark Brooks, Photo Editor, Photographer
Urbana | IL | USA | Posted: 1:15 PM on 01.11.13
->> Armando wrote: "I started switching to 16GB Transcend cards. They are cheaper and just as well made as Sandisk."

Tiger direct had Transcend cards on sale last Spring and I picked up a pair. No real problems here and haven't used the Sandisk cards much since. I bought another pair when they were on sale at Christmas. No problems to report with any of the four.
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Curtis Clegg, Photographer
Sycamore | IL | USA | Posted: 2:00 PM on 01.11.13
->> When I was working at Ritz Camera a decade ago there were some issues between Lexar and Canon. At the time Lexar used the proprietary WA (Write Acceleration) technology with its partner DSLRs from Nikon, Olympus, Pentax, Kodak Professional, and Sanyo to get improved write speeds of up to 20%. For whatever reason, Canon was not one of the WA partners.

We saw a troubling pattern even then between the two brands, but almost no issues with the Ritz brand cards, which were made by Lexar.

Of course WA technology is long gone with the introduction of faster cards and processors but ever since then I have had it in the back of my mind that WA was the genesis of some level of incompatibility.

http://www.dpreview.com/news/2002/9/25/lexar_wa
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Corey Perrine, Photographer
Naples | FL | USA | Posted: 3:14 PM on 01.11.13
->> Lexar has speed.

Longevity, not so much.

It's a great bait CF sell. UDMA 7, 1000x, fastest on market -- for less than SanDisk? You get what you pay for. And reputation, as seen from others experience, speaks for itself.

I've been victim of Lexar failure six times. They are extremely nice about replacement. But why replace crap for future headache?

No technology is perfect but it's important as a consumer to keep an eye out for trends.

Proud SanDisk owner since 2009. Washed and dried inadvertently four times, still ticking.
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