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Canon 1D Mark II Service Life
Butch Owens, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Murrieta | CA | US | Posted: 12:05 AM on 11.23.12 |
| ->> Just took my 1D Mark II into Canon for a clean and check and found out they recently stopped servicing it. Stated that it was just past its service life and that they nolonger service it. Since it was so close they did take it in for service but this won't be available in the future. I hope nothing breaks because it is a great backup body for remotes etc. if anyone has one that needs anything they might want to check now for any hope of getting it serviced by Canon. |
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James Durbin, Photographer
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Midland | Texas | USA | Posted: 8:29 AM on 11.23.12 |
| ->> Interesting news. The 1Dmk2 is still listed as an option under the CPS product point system as of this morning. I wonder how that affects me as far as my insurance coverage goes? If it falls under a mandatory new replacement I will continue using it but if the thing is now worthless and unserviceable it might be a good time to sell it. |
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Mark Peters, Photographer
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Highland | IL | USA | Posted: 12:24 PM on 11.23.12 |
| ->> Canon choosing not to service it does not make it either "worthless" or "unserviceable". |
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Tareq Abdulla, Photographer
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Aljurf | Ajman | United Arab Emirates | Posted: 2:30 PM on 11.23.12 |
| ->> I have 1D MarkII N, i heard that this camera is still serviced , but for how long? Should i send it for service? I put this body for sale because i have 1DX and 1D3, but do you think i should keep my 1D2N and send it for service even it is working flawlessly? I don't have too many clicks with my 2N, i got 1D3 about 2 years after my 1D2n so i didn't click too much shots with it during that period, i was using FF for landscapes and sports not much into my schedule. |
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James Durbin, Photographer
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Midland | Texas | USA | Posted: 2:50 PM on 11.23.12 |
->> Mark Peters- I meant more in the eyes of CPS that they considered it to be unserviceable, I understand it still makes decent pictures ... in daylight.
I shot an email to the CPS rep that has always helped me out with questions in the past, I'll post up the gist of the response once I hear back. |
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Ben Shyman, Photographer
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New York | NY | | Posted: 5:19 PM on 11.23.12 |
| ->> I had a 1DMkII serviced earlier this week. |
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Butch Owens, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Murrieta | CA | US | Posted: 5:54 PM on 11.23.12 |
| ->> Mark Peters - I agree that it is definitely not worthless and do know that I can get service though other repair shops. I had the original D30 and then 1D. The 1D Mark II was a major step up and has been a great body and still makes decent pictures. Due to the very low resale value (and probably lower now) I will probably hold on to it as a good third backup body. |
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Clark Brooks, Photo Editor, Photographer
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Urbana | IL | USA | Posted: 12:52 AM on 11.24.12 |
->> It looks like Canon stops repairs seven years past last production date.
Service for the 1D classic was discontinued in 2010 (production on the 1D stopped in 2003), I believe. The Mark2 was last made in 2005 replaced by the IIn. The last production of the IIn was the end of 2006. So expect at the end of next year, Canon will announce they will no longer service the IIn. The Mark3 will be serviceable until 2016, if the pattern remains consistent. |
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Ting Shen, Student/Intern, Photographer
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Chicago | IL | U.S. | Posted: 2:13 AM on 11.24.12 |
| ->> but the 7 Year mark doesn't necessary apply to the film camera's. My EOS3 was serviced this past summer by CPS. I wonder. |
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Mark Peters, Photographer
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Highland | IL | USA | Posted: 7:55 AM on 11.24.12 |
->> I believe the EOS 3 was discontinued in mid 2006. If so we will have to wait a few months to see if it drops as well.
Thank goodness for place like mid-state. |
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James Durbin, Photographer
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Midland | Texas | USA | Posted: 1:32 PM on 11.27.12 |
->> My CPS rep friend got back to me regarding my question on this issue. He stated in an email that "the 1D MK II and the 1DS MK II are still currently being repaired by CPS but not for long."
He went on to say he suspects that by the end of the year service on these camera bodies will be discontinued.
He also stated that "the independent repair shops will not be able to fix these cameras either as Canon has not authorized any independent shop to make repairs on the digital SLR bodies and there is not a parts supply available to these shops."
I think it might be a good time to get rid of my Mk2 after all. |
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Mark Peters, Photographer
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Highland | IL | USA | Posted: 5:23 PM on 11.27.12 |
->> Someone forgot to tell the independent shops that they aren't able to fix them. They are - and they have been all along. They've been able to get parts all along, so unless Canon is going to throw away their inventory, refuse to sell parts to anyone (a la Nikon)and people are going to quit selling broken bodies on ebay, I don't foresee that changing quickly. Will Canon quit making spare parts? I'm sure they will if they haven't already - but there is already a supply in inventory - as well as being offered by shops on e-bay and places like USCamera.
I'm certainly not doubting that CPS told you that - but it's not like they have a vested interested in recommending that you try out these shops.
As parts dry up, yes it will be harder to get them worked on - but I certainly don't see this happening in the next year or so. If it is extremely major, you would likely have received the infamous "beyond economical repair" notice from Canon anyway.
Look at this from a cash flow perspective - if you're otherwise happy with the body, the concern only really comes up if it breaks. But if it breaks today with CPS willing to work on it, it is still going to cost $200-$300 to get it fixed. If it breaks and no one can fix it what have you really lost? Not the $550 +/- you could sell the body for today - but rather only $200 - $300 because you will avoid the cost of repair. You can mitigate this loss further however if you salvage the body through Ebay or Miranda, where people buy up broken bodies and lenses all the time - for parts. Figure you can get $100 bucks for it (presuming it isn't completely destroyed - in which case your are in the same position you would have been if whether CPS works on it or not), plus another $100 for selling the charger, batteries & accessories (and even the box, which can fetch $25+ on Miranda) - you're basically at a break even - maybe down $100. Whereas if you sell it and upgrade to a mk III, you're immediately out $800+ for a used body that is out of warranty that is just as likely to break and suck more money out of your pocket.
If the bodies were selling for more, it would make it a more difficult decision. It's a big reason I think that people hesitate to drop several thousand dollars on the older super tele's. If you have a MK II which can still command a premium due to low shutter count and immaculate condition - yes, might be worth striking while the iron's hot. Or if you were planning on upgrading in the immediate future anyway before hearing the news, it might good to beat the crowd. However, if it's just a run-of-the mill workhorse, I'm not sure you are really risking much by holding on to it - and the longer you do the lower the price on the bodies you want to upgrade will fall.
Just something to consider. |
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James Durbin, Photographer
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Midland | Texas | USA | Posted: 6:39 PM on 11.27.12 |
->> Insightful, and yes I agree that its hard to say that independent shops won't work on them, but as a CPS rep he is supposed to recommend newer Canon bodies and service.
I am at a standstill because I want to upgrade my last Canon mk2 body but the fact that it is insured at replacement value makes it worth more to keep and use until it falls apart than the chump change I would get if I sold it. BUT if I do sell it then its money I can put immediately towards a 5D mk2 which is what I was planning to upgrade to. I already have a Mk4 and have Nikon company gear so I hardly use the mk2 anyways. Sorry to derail with my personal dilemma but I've been debating this for a while and haven't come to a solid conclusion. |
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Tareq Abdulla, Photographer
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Aljurf | Ajman | United Arab Emirates | Posted: 9:28 AM on 11.28.12 |
| ->> Shame, we buy a camera now and after 5-6 years it is no longer under service, i have 1D MarkII N and 1Ds II, i don't use them now any more, and i don't know when my both MarkIII cameras will be out of service by Canon later, is this to make us to buy new cameras model always to have current services? |
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Clark Brooks, Photo Editor, Photographer
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Urbana | IL | USA | Posted: 2:34 PM on 11.28.12 |
->> @Tareq
Your mark iii will probably be unserviceable around the end of 2016 for reasons I explained in my post above.
Yes, Canon (and Nikon, too, I would guess) want people to buy cameras often. That's why they went to an 18 month development cycle on pro and prosumer bodies. The company generates more revenue buy selling new camera than from the repair of previous model.
The 1Dx was available March of this year. If Canon stays true to form sometime around August-September of next year, Canon will introduce a new body. If you purchased a 1Dx today, you would could rely on Canon to repair for the next 8 years. |
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Tareq Abdulla, Photographer
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Aljurf | Ajman | United Arab Emirates | Posted: 4:52 AM on 11.29.12 |
| ->> Good, i am not giving up my MarkIII yet, until 2015-2016 who knows which bodies will come out and which one i may get as replacement, but really i am happy with my both MarkIII series, hope i will like 1DX too for a while. |
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Clint Austin, Photographer
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Duluth | MN | USA | Posted: 4:39 PM on 11.29.12 |
->> This creates an interesting situation for our photo department at the Duluth News Tribune because these are the camera bodies that we are using everyday and there has been no talk of our company purchasing us new camera bodies.
What independent shops do you guys recommend for repairs? |
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Clint Austin, Photographer
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Duluth | MN | USA | Posted: 8:36 PM on 11.29.12 |
| ->> Thanks! They look like a great option from just looking at their website. |
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