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GoPro Users Experineced wanted
Jim Pierce, Photographer
Waltham | MA | USA | Posted: 5:32 PM on 11.08.12
->> I am looking at using a Gopro video camera in a hockey net. I sure wish the Gopro 3 Black would be available for Thanksgiving but does not look like it.

So to the experienced Gopro users, what are your thoughts on using this in a hockey net? How wide is ultra wide? I am mainly looking at this for video, unless the still shots ill be better than a mark III then.....

I have a couple net box setups to put it in so no worries, might see if it will fit in with my SLR if it is needed.

Any thought? advice?

Jim
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Jim Pierce, Photographer
Waltham | MA | USA | Posted: 5:40 PM on 11.08.12
->> "experience" that is
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Robert Hanashiro, Photographer
Los Angeles | CA | | Posted: 5:55 PM on 11.08.12
->> A GoPro would be difficult to use in still mode as a remote for a couple of reasons:
1) Low-light performance is not that great compared to a real digital still camera
2) Remote triggering has a bit of a delay
3) Because of the low-light the shutter speed would not stop any action
4) It is probably too wide

For video capture the concerns would be exposure --- the GP and GP2 only have auto exposure so any shift of light and dark in the frame will change the exposure. Other than that, it might be fine for video capture in a "netcam" situation.
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Kurt Rivers, Photographer
Ormond Beach | FL | USA | Posted: 6:10 PM on 11.08.12
->> When I was testing out the wifi remote with the Hero 2 in a soccer goal I had real bad signal issues. I think the metal goal posts right beside the camera blocked the wifi signal. The remote was less then 15 feet away and it was barley connected.

Go on youtube and search gopro hockey goalie and you'll see a few videos to get an idea.
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Chris Machian, Photographer, Assistant
Omaha | NE | USA | Posted: 7:49 PM on 11.08.12
->> I purchased a box from http://hockeynetcam.com/, mounted a 5D mk II in there and place a GoPro next to it. Canon is trigger by pocket wizards, the GoPro is on all the time.
http://serve.castfire.com/video/502969/omaha_2011-01-29-025309.1323.m4v

http://serve.castfire.com/video/860979/omaha_2012-02-04-032019.1323.m4v

See it take a hit.
http://serve.castfire.com/video/842029/omaha_2012-01-15-024729.1323.m4v
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Jim Pierce, Photographer
Waltham | MA | USA | Posted: 8:27 PM on 11.08.12
->> Chris,

Great vidoes and as we all know it is about light. Saw the hit to your box.... how did your gear turn out? I looked at that design and stayed away, far away as there is no way that velcro that holds the front peice to the underside of the bottom plate will hold and protect a camera. As shown, the front plate came flying off. I know 2 photogs that lost gear. Did you have your 5D and fish in on this hit? Might want to think of drilling two holes and using some hardware.

Thanks as this shows what the older GoPro's can do so I am assuming a Hero 3 will be better.

Sure wish I could get my hands on one for a thanksgiving tourney in a very bright rink....

Jim
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Marvin Gentry, Photographer
Birmingham | AL | USA | Posted: 9:45 PM on 11.08.12
->> I agree with Robert I tried to stop some action on a sunny day with a gopro2 and was not very happy with the results!
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Bryon Johnson, Photographer
Brampton (Toronto area) | ON | Canada | Posted: 10:02 PM on 11.08.12
->> My own experience with the Hero2 in a hockey net was in the summer. I took some images at a hockey summer camp for kids using the GoPro as a netcam and unfortunately, I ended up with maybe 3 usable images out of a couple hundred that I shot. As Kurt had mentioned above, there seems to be some interference with the metal goalposts - I'd hit the button on the remote, and once in a while the camera decided it would fire.

As well, since everything is set automatically, you are stuck with the shutter speed the camera sets for you, and the ISO setting in my case (having just looked at the images I did save) never went above 200. This resulted in a shutter speed of about 1/60th of a second, which everybody on this board knows is not ideal for shooting hockey.

I found it wide enough for hockey though. But I haven't tried video with it, so can't speak to that . Took a lot of photoshop work to clean up the images I did get off the camera - everything was about 1 1/2 to 2 stops underexposed, but I think that was a function of shooting with white ice in the background.
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Juerg Schreiter, Photographer
Fort Lauderdale | FL | USA | Posted: 7:27 AM on 11.09.12
->> if not video, you could also use it on timelapse 2 seconds.
You'd have a lot of waste but bound to have some good shots in there
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Eric Canha, Photographer
Brockton | MA | United States | Posted: 9:38 AM on 11.09.12
->> Jim BorrowLenes shows the Hero3 expected to be available on Nov 14... Why not rent one for a few days and try it in advance of the tourney? I agree with you that the light at the Waltham rink is very bright so this could work...
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David Harpe, Photographer
Denver | CO | USA | Posted: 10:21 AM on 11.09.12
->> I preordered a Hero3 Black Edition so I've had one for a couple of weeks.

While I haven't used it as a net cam, I have done some night/low light work with it in video mode.

This was shot in 2.7KCin mode @24 FPS, then sped up/downsized in After Effects:
https://vimeo.com/52688003

Compared to the Hero2, the Hero3 low light is amazing. The Cin modes generate big files, but for that size you get really nice quality. Of course 24fps isn't going to cut it for a net cam, but the Hero3 also has some high speed modes that might be good. Not sure how the low light performance would be on those...probably not as good.

None of the modes are going to produce a file as good as a DSLR, but it's a $400 camera versus $3,000+. If all you need is stills a DSLR is going to be the way to go.

If you want to shoot some video with a chance at an okay still frame, the Hero3 Black Edition is a cool option. If you're a longtime GoPro user, you really want to bump up to the Hero3 Black Edition. The cin mode low light performance is worth the price alone.
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Chris Machian, Photographer, Assistant
Omaha | NE | USA | Posted: 10:52 AM on 11.09.12
->> That design is approved for use in the NHL, that is how I was able to sell it the administration of a D1 school.

My view is (and I am open to opinions of others) The velcro allows the front plate some give. If it takes a direct hit it will give/flex and pop off. If it doesn't have any "give" it shatters the plate and the force/shrapnel goes into the lens.
Not much is going to stop a direct hit that won't kill optics.

It took several players skate first into it. It flexed, got a nick in the plexi plate and dented the lens hood of a 14MM. Just cosmetic damage to the lens, the plate stayed on and I was able to finish the period (although the camera was knocked out of position). The player hit it very hard.
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Robert Hanashiro, Photographer
Los Angeles | CA | | Posted: 11:37 PM on 11.12.12
->> Olivia over at one of my FAV websites, OliviaTech.com, has a quick comparison of the low-light capabilities of the new GoPro Hero 3:
http://oliviatech.com/gopro-hero-3-low-light-test-with-gopro-hero-2-and-son...
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Jim Pierce, Photographer
Waltham | MA | USA | Posted: 8:30 AM on 11.20.12
->> Robert,

Thanks for the link!! I was able to find one at Best buy but not sure what size card is required....I want to shoot an hours video at a time, so what size card will cover me for an hours worth of video at the highest qualtiy

is it 16GB, 32GB???

The best part it fits in my netcam box with my Mark IV.

Jim
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Jim Pierce, Photographer
Waltham | MA | USA | Posted: 8:41 AM on 11.20.12
->> Ahhhh forgot to ask about battery life how long does the standard battery last?

Jim
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Chris Machian, Photographer, Assistant
Omaha | NE | USA | Posted: 12:13 PM on 11.20.12
->> I don't remember the exact battery life time, but I would place it in the net and start recording about 10-15 minutes before the game starts (but after the last zamboni run). It would record about two periods before the battery died. That was also including TV timeouts.

I put a 8GB card in there. Probably would have been better with a 16gb. I had the 2nd version of the GoPro.

As for the still camera, I put a 14mm on a Mark IV and it was not wide enough by a long shot. A 14mm on a full frame was the way we went.
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Thomas E. Witte, Photographer, Photo Editor
Cincinnati | OH | USA | Posted: 4:10 PM on 11.20.12
->> I've been hemming and hawwing a lot the past few weeks trying to figure out the best camera's for use on track day so I'm dipping in to this thread a bit. I want to mount one camera high and center inside the windshield then ideally one on the front spoiler and one on the inside rear well of both front wells.

So four cameras, three of them taking it up the a$$ a majority of the time by debris.

I was leaning towards lipstick cams due to the profile but the quality of the GoPro is just leaps and bounds ahead of the game - but is there anything I'm missing?
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Vinny Carchietta, Photographer
Mine Hill | NJ | USA | Posted: 6:50 PM on 11.20.12
->> This is the Hero2 attached to the glass behind the net with the suction-cup attachment.

I believe these are not the widest angle view.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnrdVqNz_Yk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgiZfQ4p3mg&hd=1&t=14s

I think the Hero2 would be great for video inside the net, but I have had major difficulty with the Remote (as stated above) and as such photos would be tough!

My battery for video barely last two 15 minute periods with an ice cut between.
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