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Any 1st hand real world 1Dx reviews?
Chris Collins, Photographer
Fayetteville/ATL | GA | US | Posted: 3:39 PM on 08.28.12
->> With Football season here I thought there would be more chatter about the new one. I know Robert had asked a couple of weeks back about info, not trying to override a story or piece if one is being put together but I am thinking hard on buying this expensive thing and just wondering what anyone using it has to say?
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Svein Ove Ekornesvaag, Photographer
Aalesund | Møre og Romsdal | Norway | Posted: 4:16 PM on 08.28.12
->> I do not shoot football, but I've shoot around 9000 frames at soccer in all kinds of light and weather. Upgraded from 1dIIn since I didn't care about both III and IV.

So far I only miss two things, head phone jack and red light on my focuspoint in ai servo.

It's TONS of things/settings I haven't tried yet, so I can only speak about what I've tried.

Focus: fantastic! As long as I do my job with following the subject the camera keeps up with me.

ISO: Also fantastic, the upgrade from 1dIIn is huge. Most of my images I've shot in the range from ISO 2000 to 5000. Above 6400 I can't say anything since I've only used it a couple of times.

Dual CF: Love it, good to get rid of the SD-slot.

Sensor: So good to use fullframe for sports after using 5dII for portraits/landscape and so on. Love the shallow DOF and the nice files.
But I do think a lot about wich lenses I'm going to use. I've used my 1.4 extender a lot on my 400mm to get close enough for my taste. Decided to use the same lenses this season and then decide what to do. Thinking about the new 200-400 with built in extender on one camera and maybe a 600 or 800 on the other. Will spend the next six months thinking and trying before buying.

Custom buttons: I've uses all of the from the first day with my camera. Improves my workflow a lot. Now I can change many settings without moving my eye away from the viewfinder.

Edit: Bridge became way to slow for selecting/sorting, so I switched to Photomechanic.

Viewfinder: Cool to turn on and of the grid instead of changing focusing screen. Also quite cool to have a level(or what it's called in english) in the viewfinder, though I haven't used it for sports.
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Svein Ove Ekornesvaag, Photographer
Aalesund | Møre og Romsdal | Norway | Posted: 4:22 PM on 08.28.12
->> Forgot two things

My Leica R to EOS adapters doesn't work on the 1dx. So I must look for a new adapter. Not a huge thing since they only cost a few bucks.

Idruna Pocket Phojo DO work with my 1dx and jpeg, didn't think it would so that was a nice surprise.
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Anthony Soufflé, Photographer
La Salle | IL | USA | Posted: 6:44 PM on 08.28.12
->> The 1DX really is incredible. The auto focus is crazy fast, so is the motor drive. Unlike others here, the black AF point doesn't bother me one bit (actually, I like it better as it's less distracting). The high ISO performance went well beyond my expectations. I've shot three football games with it all at ISO 10,000 and, seriously, there's no noise.

It's also extremely customizable with options to assign different functions to different buttons.

It's full frame, holy shit.

The only thing that would make it better is a headphone jack, which why Canon didn't include one is beyond me. I do also have to say that mine seems to go though batteries noticeably faster than my Mark IV. Other than that, it's a dream.

As Brad Mangin so elegantly put it in an earlier thread, "Makes the Mark IV look like an embarrassing expensive thing that holds memory cards."
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Geoff Robins, Photographer
London | ON | Canada | Posted: 7:57 PM on 08.28.12
->> Hi Chris,
I will echo what Svein and Anthony said. The AF is way better than any EOS I have ever used (all the way back to the EOS-1n). It tracks football players the way you have always wanted a Canon camera to. Once it has locked onto a player it rarely looses focus.

12 FPS is great but it does inevitably mean a larger edit at half time.

High ISO.... all I can say is wow! Makes my mk4 look pathetic in low light. Just to test out the quality I shot a few minutes of a night football game at 25,600 iso. One shot was printed about 8X10 in 2 national papers and it still looked pretty good. Numbers 9 and 10 on my member page are at 25,600 ISO although at that resolution it will be hard to tell anything.

Is it worth buying? That is a business decision only you can make.... Will you be able to get frames you couldn't before with a mk3 or even mk4? Sure. Overall it is a great piece of gear and for me it was certainly worth the investment.

GR
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Robert Hanashiro, Photographer
Los Angeles | CA | | Posted: 8:03 PM on 08.28.12
->> Check the "Photographers Toy Box" column in Sports Shooter Newsletter issue #150...
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Tom Szczerbowski, Photographer
London | ON | Canada | Posted: 1:07 AM on 08.29.12
->> Geoff: "High ISO.... all I can say is wow!"

Yeah, the 1DX makes noise-reduction software all but obsolete quite frankly.
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David Seelig, Photographer
Hailey | ID | USA | Posted: 2:07 AM on 08.29.12
->> Best digitalI ahve owned by far
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Paul Walsh, Photographer
Meakstown | Dublin | Ireland | Posted: 6:41 AM on 08.29.12
->> I've shot rugby, soccer and some athletics with my 1D X. It is brilliant.

I get to shoot some american football this weekend with it.

ISO - stunning is an understatement.
AF - So many options, so it takes a little time to get used to, but once it locks on it is great.
Battery - great
FPS - 14fps on jpg ... wow. 12 fps - brilliant and reliable
Dual CF - work great. I use Sandisk Extreme Pro cards.

Functions and options - there is just so much to the camera. RTFM certainly applies. So many options, functions, configurations, etc.

Overall, it's a stunning camera, and a great investment.
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Jeffrey Nycz, Photographer
Warsaw | IN | USA | Posted: 9:49 AM on 08.30.12
->> Shot football and baseball at 20,000 ISO and the image quality is incredible!. Unbelieveable performance, focus and frame rate.
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Corbey Dorsey, Photo Editor, Photographer
Kearney | NE | USA | Posted: 3:23 PM on 08.30.12
->> Simply amazing, football is fun again! Very enjoyable to shoot. Best thing is to leave it in the box and read the manual first!!
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Peter Buehner, Photographer
Orono | ME | USA | Posted: 4:07 PM on 08.30.12
->> Quick question for all of those above raving about the high ISO. Are you talking Jpegs from the camera or Raw?
I am curious how RAW images compare especially with the Mark IV.

Thanks
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David Seelig, Photographer
Hailey | ID | USA | Posted: 4:17 PM on 08.30.12
->> Raw is better much better
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Corbey Dorsey, Photo Editor, Photographer
Kearney | NE | USA | Posted: 4:49 PM on 08.30.12
->> I shot at 10,000 iso at a very poorly lit high school venue last weekend. JPEG on the images...looked like 800 iso...no noise, great detail and held together very nicely in BW. Have shot some general news assignments with raw, tons of data to work with...overall very nice
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Jeffrey Nycz, Photographer
Warsaw | IN | USA | Posted: 8:08 AM on 08.31.12
->> Always shoot RAW and process the small amount of noise to my liking. In some cases, the JPEG algorithm losses some detail through noise reduction so I generally process myself. Can't say enough about the performance of the camera.
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Ron Scheffler, Photographer
Hamilton (Toronto area) | Ontario | Canada | Posted: 7:22 PM on 09.02.12
->> RE: 1DX RAW vs. Jpeg... You will get more detail out of RAW conversions, however, at lower ISOs it's not a huge difference, but still there, depending on the in-camera Jpeg and NR settings. Is it enough of a difference for news deadline applications such as newsprint? Not IMO. If you'd rather shoot Jpeg, then by all means, images will look and print great with the usual precautions (proper exposure, WB).

The biggest favor you can do yourself if you want to shoot Jpeg is to TURN OFF high ISO noise reduction, even at ISO 6400 (the highest I've tested so far). With high ISO NR off, the camera still applies some NR, especially for chroma noise. With NR on, even at low, the smooth waxy look starts to set in and IMO is too strong at standard and high settings.

The NR settings have a much greater impact on Jpeg image detail than the higher quality Jpeg compression setting between 7-10. Obviously 10 gives the best quality with least compression, but will be about double the file size of quality setting 7.

To get an idea of what the in-camera NR settings do to ISO 6400 Jpeg files saved at both quality 10 and 7 compression vs. RAW conversions, see the sample crops I posted here:
http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1140073/3#10929176

Please note, for those crops in-camera sharpening was set to "0" and since my preference is RAW, I haven't explored how in-camera Jpegs at higher ISOs with NR off but sharpening on will look (i.e. whether they're much grainier).
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Steven Mullensky, Photographer, Photo Editor
Port Townsend | WA. | USA | Posted: 10:35 AM on 09.07.12
->> After reading some of the reports here, I gambled with 6700. plus bucks and bought one of these bad boys. Used it last night at a football game and realized that all the hype was true. As the light got dimmer I boosted the ISO until I was shooting at 12800. Being able to work a game without flash makes my load lighter to carry and is much easier on my back. As far as I am concerned, this is the camera that will work for me for at least five or more years. At least until a new one comes out. Turned out not to be a gamble at all. Another thing, I shot the half moon rising over the bay and I was able to see a very dim red focusing square in the center of the VF. I would very much prefer this all the time.
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Jeffrey Nycz, Photographer
Warsaw | IN | USA | Posted: 12:26 PM on 09.07.12
->> Steve:

Shot HS football at 20,000 ISO to maintain 1/1000 shutter speed at F2.8. Depending on exposure (I generally shoot at +1/3) 80% of the images are usable. Awesome camera.

Jeff
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Alan Herzberg, Photographer
Elm Grove | WI | USA | Posted: 6:15 PM on 09.07.12
->> Shot with mine for the first time last night at a high school game. Awful lights. Like Steve, I was shooting at 1/1000 at ISO 20,000 much of the night. The images look like I was shooting at 6400 ISO with my Mk IV. And the AF locked on to my target immediately and never let go. I'm in love.
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