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1DX vs MKIV
Jeffrey Nycz, Photographer
Warsaw | IN | USA | Posted: 6:10 PM on 06.09.12
->> Has anyone seen the difference of a photograph taken with a MKIV and with a 1DX cropped to the same image size as the MKIV? Does a 30% crop of a 1DX image appear to have the same quality as the MKIV? I shoot a lot from center field using a 600 F4 and wonder about loss of image quality.
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Gregory Greene, Photographer
Durham | NH | USA | Posted: 7:11 PM on 06.09.12
->> I think you will see more comparisons done as soon as the 1DX gets released (end of June now). The 1DX if cropped to 1.3x has around 10MP whereas the 1D4 has 16 MP. For people shooting in focal length limited situations that's a pretty nice bump in pixel density and I have no doubt the optical resolution of the 600/4 can take advantage of it. Especially nice for birders.

I consider the 1DX more of a companion body to the 1D4 not a replacement.
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Kevin Krows, Photographer
Forsyth | IL | USA | Posted: 5:48 AM on 06.10.12
->> (end of July) but for just a few. Fall for everyone else.
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Jeffrey Nycz, Photographer
Warsaw | IN | USA | Posted: 8:05 AM on 06.10.12
->> Why not wait until October and make it a full year? For some manufactures, that's an entire development cycle.
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Gregory Greene, Photographer
Durham | NH | USA | Posted: 12:48 PM on 06.10.12
->> You have to wonder what has caused all these delays. Part of the problem was that Canon was a little desperate that a Nikon D4 announcement would trigger a full blown migration. I doubt they wanted to announce that early.
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Kevin Krows, Photographer
Forsyth | IL | USA | Posted: 8:13 AM on 06.11.12
->> Any number of things can be the reason for the delay. The world will never know.
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Jeff Brehm, Photographer, Photo Editor
Salisbury | NC | USA | Posted: 10:12 AM on 06.11.12
->> The earthquake, tidal waves and Fukushima nuclear disaster probably didn't help.
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George Bridges, Photographer, Photo Editor
Washington | DC | USA | Posted: 10:24 AM on 06.11.12
->> "I consider the 1DX more of a companion body to the 1D4 not a replacement."


Since the MarkIV has been discontinued, I think Canon sees it as a replacement.
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Gregory Greene, Photographer
Durham | NH | USA | Posted: 10:13 PM on 06.11.12
->> Good economics from Canon's standpoint. Why offer two 1 series price points when you can just force people to pay $7000.
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Ken Shelton, Photographer
Wyckoff | NJ | USA | Posted: 11:52 AM on 06.12.12
->> The 1DX Manual - all 420 pages of it - is available:

http://gdlp01.c-wss.com/gds/8/0300007358/02/eos1dx-im2-c-en.pdf
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Brad Mangin, Photographer
Pleasanton | CA | USA | Posted: 12:03 PM on 06.12.12
->> I used the X for several weeks in May shooting many big league ballgames in Oakland and San Francisco. Looks like Canon FINALLY got it right after many misfires. The camera (a pre-production model) performed pretty great. My pictures were actually sharp! Even shot wide open! Since I need my pictures to be in focus in order to try and scrape out a living I will be getting one, probably in the fall when they become readily available to those of us not going to London.
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Gregory Greene, Photographer
Durham | NH | USA | Posted: 1:00 PM on 06.12.12
->> Brad, did you shoot in low light conditions at all? If so, how was the AF point recognition in the viewfinder? Some people on other forums using the 5D3 are saying it's hard to see the active AF point under those conditions. Wondering if it interferes with keeping the AF point on target.
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Keith Allison, Photographer, Assistant
Owings Mills | MD | USA | Posted: 1:34 PM on 06.12.12
->> If you are shooting a baseball game now and like the framing with a 1D Mark IV and 300mm 2.8 once you switch to the 1DX will you switch to the 400 2.8 instead or crop the 300 2.8 image in post? Will a cropped 1DX 300 2.8 image look the same or better than a Mark IV 300 2.8 frame with no cropping?
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Al Goldis, Photographer
East Lansing | MI | USA | Posted: 2:17 PM on 06.12.12
->> "Good economics from Canon's standpoint. Why offer two 1 series price points when you can just force people to pay $7000."

Hmmm, FORCE people? Gregory, did you really mean that or did you actually mean to say "Why offer two 1 series price points when you can just encourage people to switch to Nikon." :-)

Also, for now at least, the 1DX is $7800 not $7000--closer to $8K than $7K.
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Jeffrey Nycz, Photographer
Warsaw | IN | USA | Posted: 4:13 PM on 06.12.12
->> Does the focus point go blsck, and therefore not visible, when using AI focus? That's the rumor. Just got off the phone with a senior Canon rep and he wouldn't address it.
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Brad Mangin, Photographer
Pleasanton | CA | USA | Posted: 4:23 PM on 06.12.12
->> I just shot day baseball in bad, harsh light and all was good.

It was kinda fun shooting full frame again- felt like I was back in the old days shooting chrome through that big and bright viewfinder. When I shot chrome the Canon cameras knew how to focus- and so does this thing, so it was really like going back in time.
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Danny Munson, Photographer
San Dimas | Ca | United States | Posted: 4:43 PM on 06.12.12
->> " Does the focus point go blsck, and therefore not visible, when using AI focus? That's the rumor. Just got off the phone with a senior Canon rep and he wouldn't address it."

That is how the 5DMIII is and i really don't like it. very difficult to see in most situations.
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Daniel Malmberg, Photographer
Huskvarna | Sweden | Sweden | Posted: 7:50 AM on 06.13.12
->> Personally i have mixed feelings about 1Dx having a "full frame" sensor.
There are for sure some good things coming with that.
But in my case (needing to upgrade from two 7D bodies) it comes with the price that i will also need some new, long lenses.
After doing some calculations, i found that in my case, it will be cheaper to trade-in the Canon gear i am having now, and make "the switch" to Nikon.

Not only will it be cheaper, Nikon D4 has some features that will be usefully to me.
Such as the possibilities to trim and straighten images in the camera, and also the possibility to add basic IPTC to the image in the camera.
(I do sometimes send pictures direct from the camera).

At the top of all this, here in Sweden, Nikon is known for having a much better service to their NPS-members than what Canon have to it's CPS-members.

I am seriously having a hard time to understand how Canon are thinking here.
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Denny Kyser, Photographer
Russell | Pa. | United States of America | Posted: 11:44 PM on 06.13.12
->> I love my MkIV's but have been planning on getting the 1DX when its finally available.

I have to say after my recent encounter with CPS "Gold" I am not thrilled with them at all. Very poor service IMO.

I am just so used to the 1D bodies hate the thought of switching to Nikon, but who knows.
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