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EBay = Useless
Jim Colburn, Photographer
Omaha | NE | USA | Posted: 6:17 PM on 05.31.12
->> Everyone has probably had a problem or two with EBay but this takes the cake IMO.

I was the high bidder on an item and paid quickly using PayPal. It was a good deal but not a great deal and well within what the things in question sell for. That was two days ago.

Earlier today I sent a message to the seller asking when he'd be shipping. He proceeded to cancel the transaction saying that he hadn't got a high enough bid. He'd had a high initial price and Buy It Know price but no reserve.

I called EBay to complain saying I'd really like to just get the item I'd bought but they said that, aside from me suing the guy in court (we're in different states so that's a no) there wasn't anything that they could do since he'd just (as in while I was on the phone with EBay customer "support") refunded my money via PayPal.

To top it all off I can't even leave him with bad feedback after the refund so he walks away with a 100 percent positive feedback score.
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Michael Prengler, Photographer
Dallas / Ft. Worth | TX | USA | Posted: 6:30 PM on 05.31.12
->> It's not the Ebay is useless, there are just a lot of F$#$ck sticks in the world.

Sorry that happened to you.
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Jonathan Nimerfroh, Photographer
Philadelphia | PA | USA | Posted: 7:04 PM on 05.31.12
->> Ive been getting more spam on the gear i just posted on ebay then craigslist..

any other good places to sell used gear. I've already posted it here on ss.

Thanks
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Cecil Copeland, Photographer
Marietta (Atlanta) | Ga | USA | Posted: 7:33 PM on 05.31.12
->> Jim ....

I'm of the same opinion of E-Bay ...

Recently, I bought a used Canon 20mm 2.8 from someone that had 100% positive feedback. I sent him two e-mails before I even paid for the thing and got no response at all ... which, in and of itself, is not a big deal - just a little "cold" I thought.
The lens came in on a Thursday, and I took it to a tournament on Friday, where I mounted it on my Canon Mark IV for some shots. When I tried to remove it, it would NOT come off. I took it to a local repair shop on Saturday morning, and they told me they couldn't get it off without breaking either the lens mount, the camera mount, or both. So I sent it into CPS - where they got it off, necessitating a repair on my Mark IV. CPS said the lens couldn't be repaired due to its age.
I contacted the seller, wanting to return the lens and get a refund. Never heard from him. So I opened up a case in e-bays resolution center.
E-bay sided with the seller - telling me that because I'd sent the lens into a repair center, I'd altered the condition that the lens was in when I got it, and therefore could not only not return it, I was also not eligible for E-Bay's Buyer Protection refund.
E-Bay is not only useless, their Buyer Protection Plan does NOT protect the buyer at all.
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Steven Mullensky, Photographer, Photo Editor
Port Townsend | WA. | USA | Posted: 7:48 PM on 05.31.12
->> I try to deal in known quantities. I have used ebay for other items but when buying or selling camera gear I prefer to use SS (members only) or Fred Miranda.
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Gregory Greene, Photographer
Durham | NH | USA | Posted: 8:33 PM on 05.31.12
->> Sold several of my lenses and some accessories on the Fred Miranda Buy & Sell Forum. Very good experience with it.

I gave up on Ebay long ago. Too much hassle sifting through all the bad sellers and a PITA dealing with buyers who reneg on their bids.
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Marvin Gentry, Photographer
Birmingham | AL | USA | Posted: 10:12 PM on 05.31.12
->> 2 things but my 2 cents! I would sue the guy if you can get enough information to be able to get his social security number so you would probably get a default judgement and when he goes to buy a house or get a loan it wou,ld show up. Cecil , did you pay PayPal with a credit card. You could file a dispute with them and it is possible that they would side with you. You know eBay is good but I have found that to buy lens or other items that are a little pricey that sportsshooter , Fred Miranda and even Craigslist is good cause you can meet the person face to face.
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Preston Mack, Photographer
Orlando | FL | | Posted: 11:56 PM on 05.31.12
->> Ebay is garbage.
I've had too many bad transactions with them and with Paypal.
If I can't sell gear here on SS or on craigslist, I keep it.
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Joseph Rogate, Photographer
Seaford | NY | USA | Posted: 8:21 AM on 06.01.12
->> I was just scammed on ebay. I sold a lens to a guy in California. He said he needed it right away so being Mr Nice Guy I spend a few mre bucks to get it to him when he requested it.
He sends me an email stating I sent the wrong lens, well that did not happen, and he wants to return it for a full refnd "plus extra credits" as he called it.
OK, again being Mr Nice Guy he ships the lens I get a tracking number and I refund money.
Well low and behold I get back and old beat up manual focus lens from the 70's a far cry from the like new AF lens I sent him.
I did ll the reporting and everything one is supposed to do but in realty, I lose.
Becarefull out there trust no one. I would love to show up on this guys door step.
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Michael Fischer, Photographer
Spencer | Ia | USA | Posted: 9:55 AM on 06.01.12
->> I never buy anything on Ebay I don't use a credit card for.

If there is a hassle, I don't screw with eBay, I just go to the credit card company and work with them.

The first time it happened many years ago, eBay threatened to cancel my account after I went straight to VISA. My response was somewhat terse and basically said tough - my money - my credit card - and my relationship with VISA. eBay can threaten you, but they won't mess with the credit card companies. When faced with someone like eBay trying to bully you, you just need a bigger bully to push back.

Your credit card company is typically in your corner. You can't say the same thing about eBay.
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Jeff Stanton, Photographer
Atlanta | Ga | USA | Posted: 10:28 AM on 06.01.12
->> I've had about everything happen to me on eBay that can happen to a buyer and seller. Jim, as far as the advice given to sue this guy, in my opinion and in this case, that is poor advice. The seller is in another state. The expense associated with suing somebody, especially some distance from you, just isn't worth it. There is one thing nobody has considered here: you got your money back. That is the most important thing here, to go along with the lesson you learned.
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Michael Fischer, Photographer
Spencer | Ia | USA | Posted: 10:40 AM on 06.01.12
->> I'll argue this a bit Jeff. The rip off artist count on you not to come after them. *IF* everything is done strictly on the basis of costs, the bad guys win.

I've written here before about the last time I sued someone over a $500 dispute. It cost me $500 to win because I used a lawyer and small claims court, but win I did. Sometimes it has to be about more than money.

In Joe's case, the guy ends up with a suit on his credit record if Joe sues and wins. That will follow the slug for 10 years. Works in my book.

M
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Todd Spoth, Photographer, Student/Intern
Houston | TX | USA | Posted: 1:09 PM on 06.01.12
->> You should cry about it on a forum.

..oh wait.

;)
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Jim Colburn, Photographer
Omaha | NE | USA | Posted: 2:47 PM on 06.01.12
->> "You should cry about it"

Like your mom did last night?
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Chuck Steenburgh, Photographer
Lexington | VA | USA | Posted: 9:07 PM on 06.01.12
->> That's not saying much about your prowess with moms, Jim...

Caveat emptor.
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Butch Miller, Photographer
Lock Haven | PA | USA | Posted: 9:17 PM on 06.01.12
->> Jim ... Seriously?

First off .... You lost NOTHING in your almost eBay transaction .... Except maybe the opportunity to leave someone negative feedback ... So you have to drag another poster's parentage into the fray?

You should know better ...
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Ed Chan, Photographer
San Diego | CA | US | Posted: 10:25 PM on 06.01.12
->> Joseph, where does your buyer live? If he's in San Diego, I'd pay him a visit!
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Jim Colburn, Photographer
Omaha | NE | USA | Posted: 10:29 PM on 06.01.12
->> Butch, Butch, Butch...

You're such a contrarian, and coming from me that's a bad sign.

If you'd been paying attention in the first place you'd have taken my tale of woe as a learning tool, a warning for others who may have the ability to avoid my mistake and profit from my sad experience. Please get down off of your high horse, your calves are chaffing.

Do I have to drag said poster's parentage into the fray-that-never-was?

Sure. It's deserved.



(To Chuck: Caveat Emptor? Good guess on the buyer/seller thing...)
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Joseph Rogate, Photographer
Seaford | NY | USA | Posted: 9:15 AM on 06.02.12
->> Ed , serious?
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Keith Czechanski, Photographer
Topeka | KS | USA | Posted: 9:33 AM on 06.02.12
->> There is a Facebook group called Camera Gear that is a good place to sell gear.
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Al Goldis, Photographer
East Lansing | MI | USA | Posted: 1:48 PM on 06.02.12
->> At the risk of stating the obvious, eBay does not care about protecting the seller or the buyer. eBay cares about one thing and one thing only: making money.
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