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what would you do...
Darrell Miho, Photographer
Los Angeles : SFO : HNL | CA | usa | Posted: 6:30 PM on 05.12.12
->> i have a conundrum...
so i replied to an ad in the ss.com classifieds to purchase and item from a sportsshooter member. when the person responded, the price had gone up 19% but he/she was willing to take 8% off the new posted price which is 9% higher than the original posted price for which i had responded to. see the emails below. the name and amount have been hidden, but the emails are not edited.

taking into account that the new proposed price is within my budget and not an issue, what would you do?

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Yes it was, sorry about that but I underestimated the original price.

???
www.???.com
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On May 12, 2012, at 2:41 PM, Darrell Miho wrote:

if i'm not mistaken, wasn't the price $???
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On May 12, 2012, at 1:07 PM, ??? wrote:

Darrell,

Do to the response I have had over the xyz, the price
is $???, its list on ss.com for $??? but since you responded first and
I wont have to ship it ill give you a discount. Hope this price still
works for you, please email/call me ASAP.

???
123-456-7890
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Delane B. Rouse, Photographer, Photo Editor
Washington | DC | US | Posted: 6:37 PM on 05.12.12
->> SS isn't really a bidding/auction site where the price is driven up but then again it's all pretty much self policed. So if you're feeling bad about the new price just walk away and you can decide if you want to deal with them again in the future.

Kinda sucks though.

Delane
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Randy Sartin, Photographer, Assistant
Knoxville | TN | USA | Posted: 9:02 PM on 05.12.12
->> My first reaction is tough for them...I could maybe understand a problem with decimal points or something (No, the 70-200 is not $210 dollars), but this does not sound like that.

It's all about doing what you say you will do, so if I listed something here and due to my own ignorance or laziness I find out that I underpriced it...oh well, I screwed up and you get a deal!
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Jim Colburn, Photographer
Omaha | NE | USA | Posted: 9:12 PM on 05.12.12
->> Tell them to f**k off.
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Will Powers, Photographer
Denver | CO | USA | Posted: 9:53 PM on 05.12.12
->> Send a certified check for twice the price and ask him to send you change with the lens.
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Ross Dettman, Photographer
Bensenville | IL | USA | Posted: 10:02 PM on 05.12.12
->> I think the honorable action by the seller is to sell the item for the price as listed when you responded to their ad.

I believe acquiescing to the seller's new higher price in effect rewards what I think is questionable behavior on their part.

Thus, if they don't agree to honor the original price, I would simply move on and explain to them why.
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Preston Mack, Photographer
Orlando | FL | | Posted: 10:30 PM on 05.12.12
->> If you feel weird about the deal, walk away. No loss.
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Alan Look, Photographer
Bloomington/Normal | IL | United States | Posted: 10:45 PM on 05.12.12
->> There's only one item listed in the 1st couple dozen that is rare enough for me as the buyer to be willing to accept an increase in price from the owner and something tells me that isn't the piece you are looking at.
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Mike Huffstatler, Photographer, Assistant
Rancho Cucamonga | Ca | United States | Posted: 12:26 AM on 05.13.12
->> I'd walk away. If you make a mistake on an ad it is quite easy to edit and make it right.
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Jason Myers, Photographer
West Palm Beach | FL | USA | Posted: 12:37 AM on 05.13.12
->> SS members should take care of their own...that's bad form.
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Chuck Liddy, Photographer, Photo Editor
PLANET | EARTH | | Posted: 12:41 AM on 05.13.12
->> I don't get the drama here. if you don't want to pay the price. don't. geez. I don't think it has to do with it being SS or not. walk away if you don't want to pay what they asked...whether they changed the price or not.
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Brian Blanco, Photographer
Tampa / Sarasota | FL | USA | Posted: 1:36 AM on 05.13.12
->> Yeah, tell them "No thanks". You don't need to deal with someone who changes their mind after setting a price... unless they're marking it down.
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Michael Fischer, Photographer
Spencer | Ia | USA | Posted: 12:13 PM on 05.13.12
->> "I underestimated the original price".

Let's be clear. This isn't a mistake price - it's greed.

Darrell, I have a saying coming from a sales background. If you're the seller, you can always lower the price, but you can't raise it.

The seller is trying to do just that.

Experience teaches me that if there's this much soap opera before the transaction, what happens if something goes south afterwards?

Personally, the seller offered it at a given price. If it was me and it was a mistake, that's one thing. But it isn't a mistake - he undervalued it and now wants to raise it. He should sell it to you at the original offer price or you should move on.

That's a nice way of saying what Jim said.... :)

M
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Darrell Miho, Photographer
Los Angeles : SFO : HNL | CA | usa | Posted: 1:17 PM on 05.14.12
->> here is the follow up correspondence to the seller that i sent today after they sent me their reply...

On May 14, 2012, at 10:10 AM, Darrell Miho wrote:

imagine you go to a store and see something on sale and take it to the cashier and discover that the price is 20% higher. you tell the cashier that the price was listed lower. the cashier then offers you 10% off the new price for their mistake even though the new price is still 10% higher than the advertised price. what would you do?

i'm leaving that item, and any other item i was going to purchase and walking out the door never to set foot in that store again.

this isn't about the price, this is about being honorable and accountable. while you may think that you're being 'nice' by offering me a lower price, you're just trying to make yourself feel better about your mistake. trust me, 'nice' is not the word that comes to my mind.

being 'nice' is me not outing you in public. that is just not my style. but i will tell my friends not to ever deal with you the same way i would tell them not to go to a store that wasn't respectable in their business practices. and i will use this as an example to other ss.com members for all to learn from in how to deal with people.

my decision not to buy this was pretty much already made before i posted this to the message boards, but i wanted to make sure there wasn't something i was overlooking. but as you have seen on the message board, i'm not the only one who feels this way and others have used much more colorful language, which i refuse to do.

i have no doubt you will still sell the xxx, because the new price is still reasonable. but if it was i who made that mistake, i would have honored the original price because that is the honorable and respectable thing to do.

On May 12, 2012, at 9:30 PM, xxx xxx wrote:

Darrell,
Saw your post on ss.com thanks for not mentioning specifics. I wish
you wold have contacted me with the concern. If you feel the price is
unfair then I can sell it to someone else. No worries, like I said I
realize it wasn't an ideal situation and since I quoted you a lower
price I thought I would do the nice thing and give you a break on the
reissued price. sorry for any confusion. Thanks,
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Brad Barr, Photographer
Port St. Lucie | FL | USA | Posted: 1:37 PM on 05.14.12
->> imo...buy it or dont buy it. Its not worth all the drama. Obviously the guy underestimated its value. He could well enough have just said sorry its sold. But he didnt. Who knows or cares for that matter why the item price changed, it did, and either that price is acceptable to you now or it isnt. Simple question. Sure the guy should have done his homework better before listing, but he didnt.
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Bradly J. Boner, Photographer, Photo Editor
Jackson | WY | USA | Posted: 3:02 PM on 05.14.12
->> Darrell, you're not purchasing this item from a story where they would like your repeat business. You're purchasing from a private seller.

I think you're making this a bigger deal than it needs to be. It sounds like the deal just didn't work out. Just walk away.
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Bradly J. Boner, Photographer, Photo Editor
Jackson | WY | USA | Posted: 3:02 PM on 05.14.12
->> oops... should've said "store" not "story."
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Clark Brooks, Photo Editor, Photographer
Urbana | IL | USA | Posted: 3:26 PM on 05.14.12
->> Darrell,

Unless it something you have to have right now, right away to get a job done and that you can use to generate income to cover the price leap - walk away and wait for the item to pop again later. When a private transaction starts out on a sour note, it is usually not a good sign of things to come.

As mentioned above, imagine what drama you'd have if you received the item and it wasn't working to spec or had a unspecified flaw. Let someone else enjoy the headaches of dealing with this seller. If they are quick raise the price, they will be slow to refund in case of any issue with the performance of the equipment. That said, I agree with Mr. Dettman, Colburn and Fischer's recommendations.

Personally, purely on principal, I wouldn't buy it or deal with that person again (I'd like to know who it was so I could avoid having any transaction with him/her in the future). I would look elsewhere or patiently wait for the item to become available in the future rather than become involved in this bait/switch scheme.

On the other hand, if the ad said $???.?? "or best offer", then go for it if you feel comfortable with the seller.

Also, you might want to politely direct the person to read this thread:
http://www.sportsshooter.com/message_display.html?tid=40034 I would do it myself but you didn't tell us who it is.
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Les Stukenberg, Photographer, Photo Editor
Prescott Valley | AZ | USA | Posted: 3:43 PM on 05.14.12
->> As others have said either do the deal or don't.. How many times have we put something for sale on any list and people try and lowball you? You either take their deal or don't this is the same thing only in reverse..
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Jim Colburn, Photographer
Omaha | NE | USA | Posted: 3:51 PM on 05.14.12
->> "...since I quoted you a lower price I thought I would do the nice thing and give you a break on the reissued price..."

The NICE thing?

Whoever this seller is, he or she is a total jerk.
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Jon Eilts, Photographer
College Station | TX | USA | Posted: 12:34 PM on 05.15.12
->> I have had the same thing happen to me here as well. Coming from a sales background similar to Michael, I was quite taken back by a seller increasing the price. While I do not agree with what happened, the concept of supply and demand is what our economic system is based on and we are just seeing a capitalistic opportunity taken advantage of.
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