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Win a free trip to the Peter Read Miller Sports Workshop!
Brad Mangin, Photographer
Pleasanton | CA | USA | Posted: 4:10 PM on 02.21.12
->> Hello everyone. I wanted to let you all know about a super cool opportunity that has just come up- a fun contest that will allow one lucky winner a free trip (roundtrip airfare from city of residence to Denver, CO), transportation, room and board, and tuition to the Peter Read Miller Sports Photography Workshop this coming April.

Western Digital has put this great opportunity together for everyone in a fun contest- details which can be found here:

http://www.wdcreativemasters.com/en/Index.aspx

Peter has been doing this annual workshop for a number of years now. You can get more information about the workshop by checking out this link:

http://www.sportsshooter.com/education/workshop_profile.html?id=21

Peter is a great guy and as a Sports Illustrated staff photographer he is a true legend in the business.

Deadline is March 16- so check it out!
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Brad Mangin, Photographer
Pleasanton | CA | USA | Posted: 7:02 PM on 02.21.12
->> My bad- the deadline to enter the contest is March 12. Sorry for the mistake.
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Michael Lopez, Student/Intern
Ventura | Ca | USA | Posted: 11:18 PM on 02.21.12
->> Hi Brad,
Thanks for this post.
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Mike Doran, Photographer
Petaluma | CA | U.S.A. | Posted: 2:11 AM on 02.22.12
->> I wish I could enter the contest, it looks like it would be a great learning experience. The elevation knocks me out of the contest as it is in Denver,Co. and anything above 4500 feet leads to altitude sickness. Good luck to everyone who enters.
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Doug Pizac, Photographer
Sandy | UT | USA | Posted: 10:11 AM on 02.22.12
->> Ahhhhh... the fine print of the entry rules:

"In consideration for the opportunity to win the Contest, Contestants hereby grant to Sponsor (including its affiliates and subsidiaries) a perpetual, royalty-free, non-exclusive license to use and exploit all submitted photos and essays in any manner whatsoever. The foregoing license grant is not contingent upon anything. At all times, Contestant will retain all copyrights to their submitted photos."

Just the "opportunity" to win is now considered adequate compensation.

The workshop costs $1,495. Add on airfare and lodging and the grand prize is probably in the $3,000+ range -- all of which is taxable income. This may be fine for the winner as compensation for giving up everything but copyright, however even those how don't win give up their entry image(s) rights to the sponsor and its affiliates and subsidiaries. And remember, affiliates can be anyone WD wants to partner with which could include Getty, AP Images, Corbis, etc. as well as the applicable sports league an image may be picturing (NCAA, MLB, NBA, etc.).
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Max Morse, Photographer
San Francisco | CA | United States | Posted: 11:17 PM on 02.22.12
->> I guess we won't see you there, Doug!

Seriously, though, this is an awesome opportunity for someone who may not be able to afford it on their own. I give WD a lot of credit for stepping up and offering this. Make sure to get your entries in soon!!!
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Jim Colburn, Photographer
Omaha | NE | USA | Posted: 11:47 PM on 02.22.12
->> Thanks Doug.
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Doug Pizac, Photographer
Sandy | UT | USA | Posted: 1:31 AM on 02.23.12
->> Max...

I have absolutely no problem with the grand prize winner giving WD full rights to his/her images.

But for everyone else to give up their licensing rights for the "opportunity" to enter the contest is just downright wrong if not ethically, then morally.

In my view this is just another way to create a stockpile of images for free by playing on hopes and taking advantage of those who may not realize what they are giving up -- which raises the question of what is the purpose of the contest. To award a lucky person or collect hundreds of RF images for pennies on the dollar (cost was grand prize) and then use them for profit building while the photographer doesn't receive a dime for his/her work?
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John Germ, Photographer
Wadsworth | Oh | USA | Posted: 8:58 AM on 02.23.12
->> I'm with Doug... so many people here disparage this type of free usage grab by organizations when you submit photos. But, since a photographer is involved in this, it is suddenly OK? You can't have it both ways. Either usage grabs can be justified or they can't. The determination of whether or not it's OK should not be whether or not a photographer is involved with the "grabber" end.

As with Doug, I'm talking about the notion that all submissions grand usage - not just the winner.
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Tim Lester, Photographer
Edwards | IL | USA | Posted: 1:03 PM on 02.23.12
->> I agree with the comments about the usage but the rules do not specify minimum file size/dimensions or that watermarks are not allowed on the images submitted. Has anyone seen something that I have missed? I plan on entering and my images will have watermarks on them.

SSA and PRM Workshop are high on my list to attend, going for free would be a big bonus.
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Doug Pizac, Photographer
Sandy | UT | USA | Posted: 3:16 PM on 02.23.12
->> Tim...

Excellent find on no file size specs or watermark restrictions. However, the judging will be based on technical and aesthetic qualities which could take sizing and watermarking into account as negatives. But who knows; it may just work.

Also, the rules state that all rights to the photos entered must have been secured by the photographer. This could mean no NCAA related photos can be submitted because use other than editorial is prohibited by the organization without written permission by the NCAA, university, etc. And since the sponsor wants the right to use the images in every way, which includes commercial, that may be an eligibility shortfall.
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Ric Tapia, Photographer, Photo Editor
Los Angeles | CA | USA | Posted: 8:42 PM on 02.23.12
->> Can you submit any photos from professional sporting events? (I.E. NFL, MLB, NBA, NHL) All the team logos are copyright not to mention likeness of the players.
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