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Black Box for Hockey Shots ??
Paul DiSalvo, Photographer
Highlands Ranch | CO | United States of America | Posted: 1:20 PM on 12.04.11
->> It's hockey time again and I'm finding myself having to shoot through glass more these days. Does anyone have any specifics on building a black box to reduce reflections? Is it basically just foam board and gaffers tape? What about dimensions? I saw a post on something called the LenSkirt as well. Anyone use these? Any other new products?
Another thought was hacking a Lumiquest softbox, turning it inside out - is that big enough? Thanks..
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Vinny Carchietta, Photographer
Mine Hill | NJ | USA | Posted: 1:30 PM on 12.04.11
->> www.flexlensshade.com/

The Flex lens shade is highly recommended by the boxing, MMA and wrestling community.

You may also try: www.abetterbouncecard.com/


Although I have a feeling you have seen these before.

I cannot recommend either for hockey. I hate shooting through the glass and avoid it like the plaque.

The skirt looks, obviously, so much more resistant to light.
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Tuomo Tenhunen, Photographer
Lohja | - | Finland | Posted: 4:49 PM on 12.04.11
->> here's another one http://www.lenskirt.com/
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Robert Hanashiro, Photographer
Los Angeles | CA | | Posted: 9:59 PM on 12.04.11
->> Second the Lens Skirt. Will work for any situation shooting through glass.
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Kenneth Armstrong, Photographer
Sault Ste Marie | ON | Canada | Posted: 11:19 PM on 12.04.11
->> Will the lenskirt accommodate a 300mm f/2.8 or just like a 70-200mm f/2.8?
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Robert Hanashiro, Photographer
Los Angeles | CA | | Posted: 10:38 AM on 12.05.11
->> It's hard to tell from a photograph if it will fit a long lens, though it looks like it. You should contact them with the dimension of the lens before spending the $49.

http://www.lenskirt.com/pages/Contact-Us.html

My experiences shooting long lens (300-400) through plexiglass hasn't been very good. It's sharpness that's the issue and depends on the material you're shooting through.
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Kenneth Armstrong, Photographer
Sault Ste Marie | ON | Canada | Posted: 11:38 AM on 12.05.11
->> Thanks Robert, I will check with them.

I agree that the 300mm works better above the glass.
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Paul DiSalvo, Photographer
Highlands Ranch | CO | United States of America | Posted: 1:45 PM on 12.05.11
->> Just got an email back from the LenSkirt folks. The back opening extends to around 6" with some slight variation due to stitching. My 300 2.8 measures at 4.5" without hood and 5.5" with so I guess I'll be giving it a try. Free shipping and 30 day return so I'm out a couple of bucks for return shipping if it doesn't work. I'll update in a few weeks after some games. Thanks for the suggestions.
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Michael L. Stein, Photographer
Smithtown | NY | USA | Posted: 7:23 PM on 12.06.11
->> Has anyone used or attempted to use this lenskirt at a NHL game? I cant imagine that it would be okay, but thought I would ask. Thanks for suggesting this solution.
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Dennis Wierzbicki, Photographer
Plainfield | IL | USA | Posted: 8:49 PM on 12.06.11
->> I'm sure the LensSkirt is a great product, and well worth its price, but for a lot less money you can cobble together something using a product like this:

http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1v/R-202078070/h_d2/ProductDisplay?langI...

I've seen this used locally and know of at least one other shooter using something similar in another NHL arena when shooting through the glass. You'll need to trim it a bit and maybe attach it to your lens with gaffer tape, but it works pretty well from what I can see.
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Brian Westerholt, Photographer
Kannapolis | NC | USA | Posted: 10:06 PM on 12.06.11
->> Has anyone used the lensskirt for basketball through the backboard shots? I would think this would be an even better solution than a homemade gobo.
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Dennis Wierzbicki, Photographer
Plainfield | IL | USA | Posted: 8:09 AM on 12.07.11
->> I just read a little more about the LenSkirt, and wonder if you have to leave it attached to the glass throughout the time you are using it, or alternately, that you have to keep sticking it to the glass and detaching it with its "heavy duty suction cups"? I can envision circumstances arising where a fan complains that this "big" black thing attached to the glass is blocking their $400/seat view of the game at arenas where the still photographers are co-mingled with the fans (as they are locally), even if it's low down, against the dasher. We've probably all heard a fan complaint or two like this in the past, and know even when these objections may appear unreasonable to us, the photographer is almost always the one who has to move or make a change. I'd prefer to avoid this occurrence if I can help it.

If you have your own "photo well" where you are shooting, it may be a different story. You're probably below the lines of sight of the fans, or separated by some distance from their seats.

Does the LenSkirt have any rigidity along its length or will it collapse if not attached to a lens or to the glass?

The benefit of the rubber vent flashing is that it's attached to the end of your lens, not unlike a slightly larger than normal lens hood, not the glass, and is only in position when you're shooting, as well as the fact that it is self-supporting.

Brian, I have also seen the piece of black rubber vent flashing being used for backboard remotes, taped to the backboard glass with black gaffer tape, in addition to GoBo's made of paper, but would think the LenSkirt would work well in this application since the camera would be otherwise supported with Magic Arms and you could affix the LenSkirt to the glass without having any of the worries mentioned above.
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