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Lightroom deal
Dave Breen, Photographer
Somerset | PA | USA | Posted: 2:17 PM on 10.03.11
->> B&H has Lightroom for half-price until midnight tomorrow (10/4). I know a lot of you use it, but I'm not familiar with it. I currently edit in Photomechanic and do other work in Photoshop. What are the advantages of Lightwoom? Where does it fit in your workflow?
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Logan Mock-Bunting, Photographer
Washington | DC | USA | Posted: 2:20 PM on 10.03.11
->> I was just going to post on this topic as well. Is it as good a deal as it seems?
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Chris Curry, Photographer
Houston | TX | United States | Posted: 2:39 PM on 10.03.11
->> Thanks for posting this!

I just saved 30% on CS5 last week and now I'll save 50% on lightroom this week.
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David Scott, Photographer
Portland | OR | US | Posted: 2:51 PM on 10.03.11
->> I use it to catalog images, create online proofs and minor adjustments. However, when I updated from v3.4.1 to v3.5 (current version) all .dng files immediately disappeared from the on-the-road hard drive I was using. Still looking into the problem.

-- Dave
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Mark Sutton, Photographer
Herndon | VA | USA | Posted: 4:09 PM on 10.03.11
->> Lightroom was designed with the photographer in mind. It cut my workflow down tremendously. It's non-destructive to your image and if you pair it up with PhotoMechanic, you have a GREAT 1-2 punch. I highly recommend this product...
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Butch Miller, Photographer
Lock Haven | PA | USA | Posted: 4:52 PM on 10.03.11
->> Lr has become a wonderful workflow manager and RAW image processor ... though it does need to grow and improve a bit more to be nearly feature complete to live up to the claim of being a real one-stop answer for photographers. As it stands now, I can complete the work on approximately 90%-95% I shoot right within Lr, only visiting Ps for any images that may need extensive skin blemish retouching (mostly heavy acne or Rosacea in senior portraits) and/or compositing for posters, book or album design. If they ever add a patch tool and/or Content Aware fill ... that would be wonderful for portrait retouching.

The best part of Lr for me is I don't have to settle for the color, contrast and overall base tone of the images created by the cameras I own as per what the manufacturer thought I wanted, but by using the free DNG Profile editor, I can create custom Camera Calibration profiles that will render images how I prefer ... as default once imported into Lr or ACR (this does not mean that you have to convert all your images to DNG ... only those images used to create the calibration files) ... you can even match colors across different cameras, by model, brand and have the settings applied upon import based upon serial numbers and even ISO ... It takes a bit of effort to et this all up, but can save hundreds of hours of tweaking in very short order ...

http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/DNG_Profiles
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Matt Cashore, Photographer
South Bend | IN | USA | Posted: 5:44 PM on 10.03.11
->> Eh? Went to B&H's site and I'm not seeing this special. It showed up as full price--$299. I added it to my cart thinking the discount might show up there but still $299. Do I need to enter a coupon code? Can someone post a link directly to it?
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Ben Krause, Photographer
Plymouth | MN | United States | Posted: 5:57 PM on 10.03.11
->> Try the free demo on Adobe's site first if you're unsure:

http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshoplightroom/

It's a very impressive piece of software for photographers. The way it can manage photo collections as well as apply batch editing on import from the camera/memory card and detailed batch captioning all using presets is a huge time saver to me. The only edits it can't do are intensive manipulations of a photo like stitching for panoramas, merging multiple photos together, content removal, etc. (although it does have spot removal). However, it's tightly integrated with Photoshop so if you have that as well you can simply select the photos you want from Lightroom and tell it to send you to Photoshop for your desired purpose (import into Photoshop in layers, merge to Panorama, merge to HDR, etc.).

Like Butch, I color calibrated my cameras and saved those settings as a preset for each camera along with my typical adjustments like contrast, sharpness, and white balance (if needed). So when I import the photos it automatically renames the photos to a file structure of my liking and applies the preset edits all at once. During import you can even tell it to save the files to a second location automatically as a backup.

Again if you're unsure, just try the free demo. I think once you see how easy it is to do edits and apply batch presets (especially on import), you'll quickly see how much of a time saver it can be.
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PJ Heller, Photographer
Santa Barbara | CA | USA | Posted: 6:40 PM on 10.03.11
->> Matt:

Try this link:
http://tinyurl.com/5ucb283
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Matt Cashore, Photographer
South Bend | IN | USA | Posted: 7:27 PM on 10.03.11
->> Thanks...bought.
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Joshua Prezant, Photographer
North Miami Beach | FL | USA | Posted: 10:05 PM on 10.03.11
->> How is lightroom different then using Adobe bridge and opening up images in adobe Raw and making adjustments and then batch processing them for the whole shoot? Am I missing something? Does it really improve workflow? I use Photo mechanics for my editing, ingesting, and captioning.
Currently If I need to do a batch correction of something I apply ajustments in camera raw and bridge and then Use russle Brown's 1-2-3- process under tools in Bride and I can convert all my raw to JPGS, Tiff, ect all in one action. Can this all be done and done better with lightroom? Thanks in advance.
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Ben Krause, Photographer
Plymouth | MN | United States | Posted: 10:46 PM on 10.03.11
->> Try the demo is what I would suggest. It's free and fully functional for 30 days. Basically it's almost a one-stop-shop for everything you mentioned in your post...and it's only $150 (with this deal, $300 normally).
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Butch Miller, Photographer
Lock Haven | PA | USA | Posted: 11:01 PM on 10.03.11
->> Joshua, the workflow in Lightroom compared to Bridge, ACR, Photoshop is very similar and completing like tasks, the outcome is exactly the same ... but the difference, for me, is two fold.

First, all the work you do in Lr is done within the confines of single UI that flows in a natural progression from left to right, top to bottom, rather than bouncing back and forth, to and fro between several apps and plugins. Very straight forward and user friendly.

Secondly, the Library module when compared to Bridge is a true DAM tool. Where Bridge can only reference and allow you to work on files that are currently active on your particular computer or network, whereas with Lr, you can see the previews of imported images and actually work on keywords, rating, labeling, captioning and other IPTC data when the files are not actually available ... though you cannot use the Print, Develop or Web modules when the images are offline.

In the end, one method is not "better" than the other ... just a different flow to getting there ... I find Lr is much more conducive to getting the job done especially when dealing with larger volumes of images from larger events, weddings and tournament coverage.

If you print your own images in any range of quantities of more than a few at a time, I also much prefer printing from Lr as well, sending 1 or 100 images to print on the same paper size is child's play compared to printing from Ps.
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Kevin Novak, Photographer, Assistant
Bel Air (Baltimore) | MD | USA | Posted: 9:19 AM on 10.04.11
->> Joshua,

Another plus to LR is that it is non-destructive editing. Nothing gets done to your original file. All adjustments are made to your exported image.
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Garrett Hubbard, Photographer
Washington | D.C. | USA | Posted: 11:52 AM on 10.04.11
->> Thanks Butch. I've been in the same camp as Joshua for the past few years. However, I'm still not certain it's worth $150. Joshua, you get anywhere with your decision?
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Craig Mitchelldyer, Photographer, Assistant
Portland | OR | USA | Posted: 12:24 PM on 10.04.11
->> Garrett, why use 3 programs when you could do it all in 1 faster? I use Aperture instead of lightroom, but its basically the same. make selects, adjustments, crop, etc etc all in one place, very quickly and export in now time. For a speed example, I can edit, caption, adjust, crop, export and email/ftp 15-20 pictures at halftime of a soccer game. You'd have trouble doing all that with 3 programs quickly. and a batch isn't always the answer if the images are under different light, etc...
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Butch Miller, Photographer
Lock Haven | PA | USA | Posted: 4:29 PM on 10.04.11
->> Garrett ... the hours I have saved over the time I have been using Lr have more than made up for the investment itself ... even at full price ... many times over ...

I can even update my blog, right from within Lr using a shareware wordpress Lr plugin ... that saves me more than $150 in my valuable time in a year alone ... I simply enter the caption, title and keywords in the individual file's IPTC ... where it belongs ... then using tokens in the plugin, it is all entered with the image using a preset shortcut and soooooo much easier to get the info online in a timely fashion ...

not to mention the ease of use for one-click export presets, print presets, publishing to various sources based upon smart collections, etc., etc., etc. ...

Like I indicated earlier .... one method is not necessarily "better" ... and using Lr won't negate the need to use Ps from time to time ... but ... I have found the workflow in Lr to be much less intrusive to my comfort zone than other options ...
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Frank Mattia, Photographer, Assistant
Chattanooga | TN | USA | Posted: 9:08 PM on 10.04.11
->> I bought last month from BandH for I belive 159.00.. Sliced bread it's not, but it's pretty close.
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Neil Turner, Photographer
Bournemouth | UK | United Kingdom | Posted: 1:27 PM on 10.05.11
->> Like all programmes Lightroom seems pretty slow right out of the box with all of the factory presets in place. I have been learning how to use it for when I work with students and I can honestly say that if I wasn't already very happy with my own Photo Mechanic plus ACR in Photoshop CS5 workflow I could easily move over to Lightroom now that I have it set up for news photography and not whatever kind of work it comes ready for.

I have also learned Aperture as well as Media Pro plus Capture One and then both of Canon and Nikon's proprietary RAW software. So far I haven't had a student turn up with Fotostation or anything else so I'm hoping that my learning can take a short break.

The truth is that you can get every sensible combination to work quickly and accurately as long as you obey the rule that we've borrowed from the medical professions "First do no harm" (to your files).

The RAW converters in Photoshop CS5 and Lightroom are identical under the hood so you could say that even at full price Lightroom is good value.

The funny thing is that the more I use the combination of Media Pro and Capture One the more I like it. The same cannot be said for some other options! Staying with PM + CS5 for my own work though...
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Devin Boldt, Photographer, Student/Intern
Houston | TX | USA | Posted: 2:59 PM on 10.11.11
->> Just got a promotional email from Adobe; they are offering LR for 50% off, today only—$150

http://adobe.ly/n8Mgyn
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Tim Fuller, Photographer, Student/Intern
Troy | MI | USA | Posted: 6:58 PM on 11.17.11
->> Lightroom 3 is on sale at Adorama. Just $150! http://www.adorama.com/ABLRV3MWE.html
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Juerg Schreiter, Photographer
Fort Lauderdale | FL | USA | Posted: 1:21 PM on 11.18.11
->> Does that mean there will be an update out... right after the sales end ? :-)
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Butch Miller, Photographer
Lock Haven | PA | USA | Posted: 2:30 PM on 11.18.11
->> Jureg ... it would still be a savings .... $150 for LR3 + $99 to upgrade to LR4 would still be less than paying $299 full price for LR4 ... considering Adobe is going to the one version back upgrade policy (if LR is included in that policy) ... for LR2 owners or folks looking to add another licensed workstation it seems a reasonable deal ...

No one is sure when LR4 will debut ... but we are approaching the 18 month mark since LR3 was released ... new versions seem to come around every 18-24 months ...
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Johnny Vy, Photographer, Photo Editor
Los Angeles | CA | | Posted: 11:14 PM on 11.23.11
->> If you're on the fence about Lightroom, go for it. I wasn't a believer until I finally got it recently. I hardly edit in Photoshop anymore since I got it, and it has saved me a ton of time. I use it a lot for my wedding images. What used to take me a week, now takes only a few days.
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