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Foot Pedals
Dean Legge, Photographer
Aiken | SC | USA | Posted: 6:48 PM on 09.29.11
->> I've looked around as to how they are set up for remotes, but I am curious the reason why. Is it possible for someone to explain or link (and please save the "search the message board before posting questions question - I've done that and not had my question answered.

Is is a matter of setting up a remote and firing that remote separate from the pocket wizard on your camera... in other words only to fire at particular times? Is there another way around that... say another trigger on the camera... which would do this better?

Any help would be great as I am curious the set up folks use pedals and such for basketball... I already understand firing multiple remotes with one trigger - for the record - no need to explain that one.
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Daniel Berman, Student/Intern, Photographer
Seattle | WA | US | Posted: 7:01 PM on 09.29.11
->> Hey Dean,

If you put a pocketwizard transceiver in the hotshoe of your primary camera, camera A, you will fire camera B with every click of Camera A. You can set up a footpedal to trigger just camera B, that way you don't end up with a lot of frames you didn't mean (wrong angle for the remote, wrong timing, etc).

I have used a handheld trigger, and put a PW on a lanyard around my neck, to fire a secondary remote camera.

Hope this helps,

Daniel
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Carlos Gonzalez, Photographer
Minneapolis | MN | USA | Posted: 7:19 PM on 09.29.11
->> I wrote a little about this on my Blog.

http://blog.carlosgonzalezphoto.com/2010/08/02/footswitch-for-a-remote-dslr.../

Hope that helps, cg
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Kevin Novak, Photographer, Assistant
Bel Air (Baltimore) | MD | USA | Posted: 8:08 PM on 09.29.11
->> Here's a good source for trigger switches.

http://michaelbass.blogspot.com/2006/11/lens-mounted-trigger-switch-for-pw....
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Israel Shirk, Photographer, Assistant
Boise | ID | US | Posted: 9:34 PM on 09.29.11
->> http://www.sportsshooter.com/news_story.html?id=897
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Paul Alesse, Photographer
Coram | NY | USA | Posted: 12:20 AM on 09.30.11
->> +1 for Michael Bass
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Joel Hawksley, Student/Intern, Photographer
Athens | OH | USA | Posted: 12:24 AM on 09.30.11
->> http://www.amazon.com/M-Audio-US65000-Sustain-Pedal-Keyboards/dp/B00063678A...

That, plus a $2 adapter from Radioshack to convert to 1/8", gets you what you need for under $20. It also has a switch that allows you to have it trigger when you release the pedal, which can be convenient.
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Butch Miller, Photographer
Lock Haven | PA | USA | Posted: 7:51 AM on 09.30.11
->> +1 for an keyboard sustain peddle ... been using them hardwired and now with radio remotes since the 1980's ... I bought one from the local corner music store for $9.99 ... threw on the 1/8" adapter and it works great ... much better for baseball if standing or seated on a bench or stool ... though a foots witch itself may not be the most comfortable mechanism when seated on the floor behind the base line for hoops ... there I would prefer one of the lens barrel mounted switches, though they are a bit more investment ...
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George Bridges, Photographer, Photo Editor
Washington | DC | USA | Posted: 9:57 AM on 09.30.11
->> Dean,

In answer to your question of "Why?"

It's so you can selectively fire a remote and not load it up with blank images.

Let's say in basketball it is a backboard cam. Sure, you can make your remote where it fires every time you fire your handheld, but you will end up with a lot of images of nothing you have to sort through later (your shooting the coach yelling and you're getting frames with nothing in it on the remote. And if it's a high volume sport where you can't get to the camera to change disks you could fill the card and be out of luck the remainder of the game.

Your choices are either a foot switch or a finger button trigger. Depending on the situation you can go with either. For somewhere you are standing or sitting a long period of time or switching off cameras regularly in your hand then a foot switch is good. For a game where you are sitting cross-legged like in basketball a button switch is better.
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Aric Becker, Photographer
Seattle/Portland | WA | | Posted: 6:47 PM on 06.11.13
->> I am trying to put together a photo booth for a party this weekend.

I purchased a foot pedal, the 1/8 adapter.
I would like to hook this up to a flex TT5 and not having much luck.

Any ideas what I might be doing wrong?
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Travis Haughton, Photographer
Oak Park | IL | USA | Posted: 7:11 PM on 06.11.13
->> Aric,

We need more details about your setup. What is the pedal connected to?
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Tom Ewart, Photographer
Bentonville | AR | USA | Posted: 8:03 PM on 06.11.13
->> Couple of things I have used. Find and old sewing machine pedal/switch, all metal and cut the cord and put your own end on it to match the connections you use. I also went to my local electrical contractor house (where I buy my zip cord 1,000 ft at a time.) and asked them about some momentary heavy duty switches, they hooked me up with a really nice one that the button is mounted in a housing that is about 1/4 x 1/4 x 1 inch, and it is perfect for using gaff and putting on a camera grip so that it site just below shutter button on the camera and kind of in the right place to fire both cameras with the same finger/grip.
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Aric Becker, Photographer
Seattle/Portland | WA | | Posted: 11:25 PM on 06.11.13
->> Sorry, I am wanting to connect the pedal to a Flex TT5.
The pedal I bought is a sustain pedal Casio SP3R from Radio Shack.

Than I will have another Flex TT5 on top of my Canon 7D.
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Mark J. Terrill, Photographer
Simi Valley | CA | USA | Posted: 5:02 AM on 06.12.13
->> Aric, Make sure that you are using a mono plug. Sometimes the wizards don't fire with a stereo plug. As far as I'm concerned the best pedal out there is the Linemaster Treadlite II. The first one that I had worked for 30 years until it was stolen.
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Anthony Gruppuso, Photographer
BAYPORT | NY | United States | Posted: 1:23 PM on 06.12.13
->> My own shameless plug if you want one already done.
http://www.shop.imageplus-photo.com/Foot-Switch-for-Pocket-Wizard-fs201301....
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Aric Becker, Photographer
Seattle/Portland | WA | | Posted: 2:32 PM on 06.12.13
->> Maybe that is what's wrong. I thought I needed a stereo plug.

I will switch that!
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Aric Becker, Photographer
Seattle/Portland | WA | | Posted: 5:44 PM on 06.12.13
->> I wish I knew what the problem is.

I switched to the mono plug.

I have tried google, pocket wizard site, no luck with clear explanation.

Any other ideas?
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Tim Cowie, Photographer, Photo Editor
Davidson | NC | USA | Posted: 5:57 PM on 06.12.13
->> You mention that you have the other Flex TT5 on top of your Canon 7D. What cord and to what port are you connecting your TT5 into the 7D?
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Aric Becker, Photographer
Seattle/Portland | WA | | Posted: 6:29 PM on 06.12.13
->> Tim I am using PocketWizard 802-453 CM-N3-ACC plugged into P1.

The pedal is also plugged into P1.
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Travis Haughton, Photographer
Oak Park | IL | USA | Posted: 7:45 PM on 06.12.13
->> I'd start your troubleshooting from the camera being triggered and work backwards. Here's PW's tutorial page: http://www.pocketwizard.com/inspirations/tutorials/remote_camera_trigger/

Or simplify things and just trigger the camera directly with the footswitch wired to the camera. You may need a miniphone coupler for that though.
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Chuck Liddy, Photographer, Photo Editor
PLANET | EARTH | | Posted: 8:45 AM on 06.13.13
->> Stereo plugs were the culprit with my pockets wizards....I was pulling what little hair I have left out until I noticed the difference on the bottom of the new cord I bought. Pocket wizards wouldn't fire off anything I was connected to....realized it was a stereo plug (stereo has two rings on plug mono has one) changed it out and it works great. Funny how I had never read or heard anything over the years that you had to use a mono plug....
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Aric Becker, Photographer
Seattle/Portland | WA | | Posted: 5:43 PM on 06.13.13
->> I think it's the pedal?

I can get the camera to fire from a pocket wizard but not from pressing the pedal.

I am hoping to get this working for Saturday.

What kind of pedal do you guys recommend?
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Butch Miller, Photographer
Lock Haven | PA | USA | Posted: 5:51 PM on 06.13.13
->> Not all keyboard sustain pedals will work ... you need one that has a momentary closed switch ... some pedals don't use a "switch" per se ... they may use a rheostat or a momentary open switch ... or even proprietary electronic circuitry to work with their keyboards.

You can check with a local music store for the right type ... as I posted earlier in this thread ... you can find them priced very inexpensively ...
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Aric Becker, Photographer
Seattle/Portland | WA | | Posted: 6:14 PM on 06.13.13
->> Thanks Butch!
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Aric Becker, Photographer
Seattle/Portland | WA | | Posted: 1:19 PM on 06.14.13
->> Butch,

I went and purchased a momentary pedal, Biss FS-5U.

Still not having any lucky.

I hit test on the pocket wizard and it fires. But not when the pedal is plugged into the wizard.

What am I doing wrong?
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Butch Miller, Photographer
Lock Haven | PA | USA | Posted: 1:32 PM on 06.14.13
->> Aric ... not sure where you go from here ... I have never used the Flex TT5 to trigger a camera ... I either plug the pedal directly into the pre-trigger cord or a PW Plus or PW Plus X when I can't be near the camera ... so I can't offer any advice as to the specific settings or troubleshooting with the Flex TT5.

It would seem to me that the Flex TT5 is not recognizing the closing of the circuit from the foot pedal in order to transmit the trigger signal to the camera. I really don't know where you go from here ...

Anyone else have advice on triggering a camera with the Flex TT5?
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Aric Becker, Photographer
Seattle/Portland | WA | | Posted: 2:14 PM on 06.14.13
->> Yeah, I am lost.

I even put the Flex TT5 in Transmit only mode and tried every other combination I can think of with no luck.
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Travis Haughton, Photographer
Oak Park | IL | USA | Posted: 6:53 PM on 06.14.13
->> Just get a miniphone extension cable and directly wire the camera to the foot pedal. No need to bother with wizards for a photo booth.
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Robert Hanashiro, Photographer
Los Angeles | CA | | Posted: 7:35 PM on 06.14.13
->> The best foot switch I have found are the ones made for the old Timolite and Gralab darkroom timers. Well - made and fairly inexpensive vs. the industrial ones I've seen:

http://www.darkroomdeveloping.com/develop/595728/2/timer.html?enlarge=foot+switch&finish=15224&x=28&y=17
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Mark J. Terrill, Photographer
Simi Valley | CA | USA | Posted: 8:13 PM on 06.14.13
->> The Gralab switch that Bert mentions is the same one that I did, just under a different name.
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