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Aaron Rodgers on Super Bowl photogs
Brian Cassella, Photographer
Chicago | IL | USA | Posted: 4:24 PM on 05.22.11
->> "We walked out for the coin toss and at the Super Bowl there are these long TV timeouts, so we go out for the coin toss. I'm one of the captains. There's five of us. The Steelers' guys are standing over there and we're standing looking at each other for a good three minutes. Well over to the left about ten camera men have been trying to get in place for the best shot and two of them are fighting. They're yelling at each other in different languages, flipping each other off and one guy is flipping him off and the other guy below him is just taking all of these pictures of him. The guy above is flipping off the little guy down below, who is kind of squeezed in to get the lowest spot. He thought it was the best picture, so the low guy is down. They started screaming at each other. He's yelling at him. The up guy is flipping him off and the down guy just starts taking all of these pictures at him. The guy who stands up…he just started taking pictures. They're both screaming at other and taking pictures of each other for a good minute and a half and I'm tapping A.J. [Hawk] like look at that over there! Look at those guys! It was unbelievable." --Aaron Rodgers

Yeah, the players notice when you act like a jackass, too...

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Matthew Sauk, Photographer
Sandy | UT | United States | Posted: 6:17 PM on 05.22.11
->> I just shook my head reading that a few days ago. So sad what goes on. To be honest I think it is time to just not allow them on the field at all. Isn't that what you pay 12,000 dollars for that zoom for? Same for video guys.
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Bradly J. Boner, Photographer, Photo Editor
Jackson | WY | USA | Posted: 6:49 PM on 05.22.11
->> "They're yelling at each other in different languages, flipping each other off and one guy is flipping him off and the other guy below him is just taking all of these pictures of him."

Is it just me, or is anyone else just dying to see these pictures?
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Bob Ford, Photographer
Lehighton | Pa | USA | Posted: 6:58 PM on 05.22.11
->> Matthew, I can't stand when people tell me that I don't need to get close because I have a big lens. I usually just write it off to the fact that people don't understand my job.

But, I guess that some people that do my job don't quite understand my job.

How are you supposed to get the faces of BOTH teams while they are standing midfield waiting for the coin toss if you are shooting from the sidelines? Even if you're only trying for one team, how's that going to happen when the other team is standing 15 feet away?

It's true that $12,000 lenses are nice to shoot sports with, they haven't come up with one with an x-ray feature yet.
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David Luoto, Photographer
Gastonia | NC | USA | Posted: 7:33 PM on 05.22.11
->> That sounds like some hard core Chimping!
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Robert Deutsch, Photographer
NY | NY | USA | Posted: 7:51 PM on 05.22.11
->> Uh, I'm not sure what Aaron was talking about.. I was one on the "white vest" photogs in that group for the coin toss and I didn't notice anything like that... jostling for position, yes, since the league asks us to be there and then network TV moves close in and blocks us to shoot it ultra wide, but a fight? not near me anyway....
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Dan Powers, Photographer
Appleton | WI | USA | Posted: 12:15 AM on 05.23.11
->> When I was in Beijing a few years ago for the Olympics, I saw two photogs nearly start throwing fists after a water polo event. (I think it was womens water polo, but my memory might be failing me on this) And it was for a situation that basically became a staged reaction photo...which I thought was pathetic, but that is a whole other story. I have never seen such unprofessional conduct in all my years. Mark Rebilas took a photo of me reacting to the scrum...it was unreal. I was embarrassed to tell you the truth...Dan.
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G.J. McCarthy, Photographer
Dallas | TX | US | Posted: 8:00 AM on 05.23.11
->> Bob -- thank you.

I was at the game as well shooting from a dead center, elevated position. Suffice to say I didn't see anything remotely close to what Rodgers is talking about. Sure, the post-game scrum looked a little intense, but nothing beyond what I'd expect from an event of that caliber; none of my colleagues on the field said differently.

Sounds like the guys at Deadspin (or whomever did the initial interview) should have checked the game footage before taking Rodgers at his word. Wouldn't be the first time an athlete or person of fame engaged in a little hyperbole.

ALL THAT BEING SAID, I have seen some really bad behavior at gigs on the part of other shooters -- still or otherwise. You know what I do? Don't do that shit. You're only as good as how you act; can't worry too much about the other guy.

- gerry -
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G.J. McCarthy, Photographer
Dallas | TX | US | Posted: 9:02 AM on 05.23.11
->> Hey Dan:

Question -- does the sentence, "I have never seen such unprofessional conduct in all my years," apply to your experience at Beijing a few years ago, or what happened here in Dallas?

If it's the latter, I apologize, dude. That's definitely not the kind of experience I wanted any out of towners to have at home turf.

Like I said, it did look a little pushy down there at the end of the game, but maybe it was a lot worse down on the field ... a perspective sort of thing.

Anywho, bummer if you had a bad time here, amigo. Sucks when a few bad apples can ruin stuff for the many.
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Dan Powers, Photographer
Appleton | WI | USA | Posted: 10:19 AM on 05.23.11
->> Hey G.J.,
No, not in Dallas. I was talking about the fight I witnessed in Beijing. It really caught me off guard. I have never seen photographers act like that before. Now, to be fair, it was my first Olympics. Maybe that sort of thing happens more often at big international events, but it was a first for me to see...Dan.
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Chuck Liddy, Photographer
Durham | NC | USA | Posted: 10:47 AM on 05.23.11
->> I'll contribute also...I've witnessed some bad behavior before...mainly by TV guys messing with still photographers...but I have to say the worst I too have ever witnessed was at the Sydney Olympics between a well known U.S. photographer and a fellow from France. Closest situation I've ever been to where punches were almost thrown.....and it was over something very stupid. Big egos usually are the culprit in these situations...
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Tim Casey, Photographer
Gainesville | FL | USA | Posted: 9:37 PM on 05.27.11
->> I had to get between a photographer and some CBS cameramen at the NCAA gymnastics championships in Gainesville last year, same situation where they were fighting over position for a trophy presentation. Insane.
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Louis Lopez, Photographer
Southern California | CA | USA | Posted: 3:03 AM on 05.28.11
->> I actually had to grab and pull back a cable off his feet puller as he went to throw a punch at a photographer at the Rose Bowl postgame this year, there was a scuffle and this guy goes and attacks the still photographer. More of a reflex that I reached out and grabbed him back.
Not the first time I've seen this at a major event.
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Brian Ray, Photographer, Photo Editor
Fort Worth | TX | United States | Posted: 12:34 PM on 05.28.11
->> Any given Sunday....on a freeway near you...
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