Story   Photographer   Editor   Student/Intern   Assistant   Job/Item

SportsShooter.com: The Online Resource for Sports Photography

Contents:
 Front Page
 Member Index
 Latest Headlines
 Special Features
 'Fun Pix'
 Message Board
 Educate Yourself
 Equipment Profiles
 Bookshelf
 my.SportsShooter
 Classified Ads
 Workshop
Contests:
 Monthly Clip Contest
 Annual Contest
 Rules/Info
Newsletter:
 Current Issue
 Back Issues
Members:
 Members Area
 "The Guide"
 Join
About Us:
 About SportsShooter
 Contact Us
 Terms & Conditions


Sign in:
Members log in here with your user name and password to access the your admin page and other special features.

Name:



Password:







||
SportsShooter.com: Member Message Board

Beck's SI Cover
Max Waugh, Photographer
Bothell | WA | USA | Posted: 11:56 AM on 03.24.11
->> Just saw the latest SI cover by Robert Beck (http://bit.ly/gP5d4t). I love the angle, and am curious if anyone (Robert?) can share or even speculate on the details behind the set up.

I've shot tournament hoops before, but don't recall remotes (or photographers) being set up along the sideline floor, as appears to be the case here. I'd imagine this was sitting at the front row spectators' feet, unless there's something unique about this venue's configuration. So was it just a matter of chatting with some fans and making sure they didn't kick the photographer or the camera over...?
 This post is:  Informative (1) | Funny (0) | Huh? (0) | Off Topic (0) | Inappropriate (0) |   Definitions

Rod Mar, Photographer
Seattle | WA | USA | Posted: 12:04 PM on 03.24.11
->> I'll let Robert make the explanation of how he did it (since he is the Man), but it reminds me of a very similar shot he made of a Gonzaga player at KeyArena some years ago. I think it was Richie Frahm against Stanford. Very cool angle, yet another very cool photo by Roberto.
 This post is:  Informative (1) | Funny (0) | Huh? (0) | Off Topic (0) | Inappropriate (0) |   Definitions

Rod Mar, Photographer
Seattle | WA | USA | Posted: 12:10 PM on 03.24.11
->> http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/gallery/featured/GAL1000012/1/index....
 This post is:  Informative (0) | Funny (0) | Huh? (0) | Off Topic (0) | Inappropriate (0) |   Definitions

Chuck Liddy, Photographer
Durham | NC | USA | Posted: 12:27 PM on 03.24.11
->> Since the benches are in the photo the camera is one of the remote cameras set up under the media tables. No spectators to worry about there....just writers who might accidentally kick the camera in front of them. although at the sites I've been at there is a lot of leg room under those positions. There were six or seven of them at the Charlotte site.
 This post is:  Informative (1) | Funny (0) | Huh? (0) | Off Topic (0) | Inappropriate (0) |   Definitions

David Heasley, Photographer, Photo Editor
Columbus | Oh | U.S.A | Posted: 12:35 PM on 03.24.11
->> The Cleveland site had atleast one of those setup under the tables too. Every few timeouts someone would go under the table cloth to change cards(I would imagine) or something like that. That might be my fav part of shooting an event like that, seeing how others do the various parts of the job.
 This post is:  Informative (0) | Funny (0) | Huh? (0) | Off Topic (0) | Inappropriate (0) |   Definitions

Max Waugh, Photographer
Bothell | WA | USA | Posted: 12:39 PM on 03.24.11
->> Right, I completely forgot that the sideline area is packed with media tables for the tournament. Makes much more sense. Thanks guys.
 This post is:  Informative (0) | Funny (0) | Huh? (0) | Off Topic (0) | Inappropriate (0) |   Definitions

Pat Lovell, Photographer
Bloomington | IN | US | Posted: 1:03 PM on 03.24.11
->> Robert was on the Dan Patrick Show today, he called in to clear a few things up. Dan was listening to PTI on ESPN and Michael Wilbon said the image was photoshopped. Dan disagreed with the image being photoshopped and someone got Robert on the phone in the meantime.

Robert referenced the Frahm shot and talked about the setup of the camera. Chuck is correct, it was setup under the media tables.
 This post is:  Informative (0) | Funny (0) | Huh? (0) | Off Topic (0) | Inappropriate (0) |   Definitions

Chuck Liddy, Photographer
Durham | NC | USA | Posted: 1:15 PM on 03.24.11
->> Okay, that is disturbing. Let me get this straight...so a talking head, former sports writer says one of the best sports photojournalists in the world photoshopped and altered an image to an audience on a national radio program? I guess it would be okay to say he plagiarized his stories before he became an idiotic talking head. Michael Wilbon = douchebag.
 This post is:  Informative (7) | Funny (0) | Huh? (0) | Off Topic (0) | Inappropriate (0) |   Definitions

Pat Lovell, Photographer
Bloomington | IN | US | Posted: 1:53 PM on 03.24.11
->> Chuck and others,

I made a little mistake and wanted to clear it up.

When listening to Dan Patrick, he said Michael Wilbon was absent from the show and Kevin Blackstone was filling in and Blackstone made the comment.

Sorry, was posting in a hurry, don't want to give Wilbon any more grief than he needs.
 This post is:  Informative (1) | Funny (0) | Huh? (0) | Off Topic (0) | Inappropriate (0) |   Definitions

Brad Mangin, Photographer
Pleasanton | CA | USA | Posted: 2:17 PM on 03.24.11
->> Robert Beck is my hero. I fell in love with this picture that reminded me of the earlier Beck frame that Rod mentioned above when I saw it in Snapshot last week:

http://tinyurl.com/4hvuu2a

Robert just Tweeted about going on the radio this morning:

http://twitter.com/shoot802
 This post is:  Informative (0) | Funny (0) | Huh? (0) | Off Topic (0) | Inappropriate (0) |   Definitions

Ivan Pierre Aguirre, Student/Intern, Photographer
El Paso | TX | United States | Posted: 2:49 PM on 03.24.11
->> Once again, nice shot by Mr. Beck and his crew.

Also, question, did the NCAA change the strobing policies this year for the tournament? Last year when I was in San Jose, as far as I can remember, nobody including, AP, SI, Getty, etc used strobes because only the official photographer/agency could use strobes and remotes (on basket apparatus.)

btw this is the original to said image.
http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/110647063/Sports-Illustrated

yes, the setup was under a table. Table cloth got in the way in this frame.
http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/110641081/Sports-Illustrated

Thanks.
 This post is:  Informative (0) | Funny (0) | Huh? (0) | Off Topic (0) | Inappropriate (0) |   Definitions

Chuck Liddy, Photographer
Durham | NC | USA | Posted: 3:56 PM on 03.24.11
->> Kevin Blackstone = douchebag. There's MY correction.
 This post is:  Informative (0) | Funny (1) | Huh? (0) | Off Topic (0) | Inappropriate (0) |   Definitions

Chris Morrison, Photographer, Assistant
Tucson | AZ | USA | Posted: 4:05 PM on 03.24.11
->> I saw the photo on SI.com earlier this week and thought to myself ... "that's a cover". Guess I wasn't the only one.
 This post is:  Informative (0) | Funny (0) | Huh? (0) | Off Topic (0) | Inappropriate (0) |   Definitions

George Bridges, Photographer, Photo Editor
Washington | DC | USA | Posted: 4:42 PM on 03.24.11
->> Ivan.

For remotes only the NCAA can put cameras anywhere on the backboards or stanchion. Actually it is supposed be no cameras at all in those places until the Final Four when the NCAA does it.

As far as strobes go, most agencies forgo strobes now because of better high ISO performance and cost. However, if the arena is dark enough, SI will install lights, or if they are already in the building they will be rented out. Again, most folks just don't bother with the expense, but strobes are not outlawed.

My guess would be that because of the lighting no one bothered with it but the local guy had person had their own set already installed for their regular coverage in the arena and went ahead and used them because they could do so free of charge.
 This post is:  Informative (0) | Funny (0) | Huh? (0) | Off Topic (0) | Inappropriate (0) |   Definitions

David A. Cantor, Photographer, Photo Editor
Toledo | OH | USA | Posted: 4:53 PM on 03.24.11
->> FTR, it's Blackistone and he's a perfesser...so there!
http://www.merrill.umd.edu/directory/kevin-blackistone

(Could I get a chirp from a Terp?)
 This post is:  Informative (0) | Funny (0) | Huh? (0) | Off Topic (0) | Inappropriate (0) |   Definitions

Robert Beck, Photographer
Carlsbad | CA | USA | Posted: 5:02 PM on 03.24.11
->> What happened? I went surfing this morning.
 This post is:  Informative (0) | Funny (19) | Huh? (0) | Off Topic (0) | Inappropriate (0) |   Definitions

Luke Johnson, Photographer, Student/Intern
St.Petersburg | FL | USA | Posted: 5:09 PM on 03.24.11
->> I want to be Robert Beck when I grow up.... That shot is so awesome.
 This post is:  Informative (0) | Funny (0) | Huh? (0) | Off Topic (0) | Inappropriate (0) |   Definitions

Mark Sutton, Photographer
Herndon | VA | USA | Posted: 11:08 PM on 03.24.11
->> I saw Liddy's floor remote at the Women's ACC Tourney 3 weeks ago (Cutting board with a ball head), so on my way back down to Winston-Salem for the MEAC Tourney the following week. I stopped at Lowe's, had the kid cut a $4.99 wood shelf 12 inches. Drill a hole in the middle, brought a $0.16 screw and attached my ball head onto it. Placed some coasters on the bottom not to scratch the floor. Put a 50D and a 24-70 mike-mike on it with a pocket wizard. Got scared of the STUPID Mascot's kicking it under the basket when they ran off the court. Moved it to the side for the Semi's and Final's like Mr. Beck. Love the images too.
 This post is:  Informative (0) | Funny (0) | Huh? (0) | Off Topic (0) | Inappropriate (0) |   Definitions

Kevin M. Cox, Photographer, Assistant
Galveston & Houston | TX | US | Posted: 3:13 AM on 03.25.11
->> For those who want to hear the radio show from this morning it looks like grabbing it as a podcast from iTunes is the easiest way. I've noted the times they talk about the photo so you can skip past the other stuff. Robert calls in during the second hour.

Hour 1 - 6:07 to 7:55 / 10:55 to 12:05 / 12:55 to 13:30 / 13:55 to 14:15 / 23:45 to 24:55

Hour 2 - 11:42 to 12:30 / hear Beck from: 15:35 to 20:02

http://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-dan-patrick-radio-show/id279241099?i...

You need to grab two files: 3/24 Hour 1 (Jeff Goodman breaks down...) and Hour 2 (John Thompson III talks...)
 This post is:  Informative (1) | Funny (0) | Huh? (0) | Off Topic (0) | Inappropriate (0) |   Definitions

Radu Rosca, Photographer
Tirgu Mures | MS | Romania | Posted: 4:11 AM on 03.25.11
->> @George, i can understand that hi-tech can save you time, equipment and effort, but does anyone who shot on strobes wants to go back and compensate with high iso? I know i wouldn't.

Great shot one more time!
 This post is:  Informative (0) | Funny (0) | Huh? (0) | Off Topic (0) | Inappropriate (0) |   Definitions

Peter Aiken, Photographer
Manhattan | KS | USA | Posted: 8:09 AM on 03.25.11
->> The SI curse strikes again, BYU's Jimmer on the cover, BYU and Jimmer out of the tournament! Nice shot though.
 This post is:  Informative (0) | Funny (2) | Huh? (0) | Off Topic (0) | Inappropriate (0) |   Definitions

Robert Beck, Photographer
Carlsbad | CA | USA | Posted: 6:43 PM on 03.25.11
->> The whole sordid story will be in the next Sports Shooter Illustrated. I turned down Vanity Fair.....And I did NOT call the Dan Patrick show. They called me. At six in the morning.
 This post is:  Informative (0) | Funny (0) | Huh? (0) | Off Topic (0) | Inappropriate (0) |   Definitions

Mark Sutton, Photographer
Herndon | VA | USA | Posted: 6:58 PM on 03.25.11
->> Thanks Robert in advance for sharing this with us and I listened to your segment on the Dan Patrick show on my way home form work. Keep up the GREAT work!!!
 This post is:  Informative (0) | Funny (0) | Huh? (0) | Off Topic (0) | Inappropriate (0) |   Definitions

Kevin M. Cox, Photographer, Assistant
Galveston & Houston | TX | US | Posted: 7:19 PM on 03.25.11
->> Apologies Robert, I knew they tracked you down from listening to the recording of the show. I just worded that poorly that when I posted above.
 This post is:  Informative (0) | Funny (0) | Huh? (0) | Off Topic (0) | Inappropriate (0) |   Definitions

Alan Look, Photographer
Bloomington/Normal | IL | United States | Posted: 7:36 PM on 03.25.11
->> a cutting board floor remote? Did it look like this http://www.sportsshooter.com/adlook/floorplate/ I knew I should have got a patent.

Nice shot Robert! Does bite a bit to get called at 6am.
 This post is:  Informative (0) | Funny (0) | Huh? (0) | Off Topic (0) | Inappropriate (0) |   Definitions

Robert Beck, Photographer
Carlsbad | CA | USA | Posted: 9:05 PM on 03.25.11
->> Don't worry boys. I didn't hear either phone. I slept in 'till 6:43 when my dog told me to get up.
 This post is:  Informative (0) | Funny (1) | Huh? (0) | Off Topic (0) | Inappropriate (0) |   Definitions

George Bridges, Photographer, Photo Editor
Washington | DC | USA | Posted: 10:55 PM on 03.25.11
->> @Radu.

Most strobe shooters want that look and don't want to compensate with high ISO. But, when you are talking a few thousand dollars, maybe, in rental or installation fees then, Yes, yes they do want to compensate electronically.

Most arenas strobes are already in place, but at some an organization must bring in lights and crew to install, etc and maybe pay union fees to have workers move them to the catwalks. It is not worth the money in today's tight budgets.

I know Lucas Oil Stadium at last year's Final Four did not have the proper electrical in the catwalks and wanted a mere $30,000 to wire it if any organization wanted to install strobes. Wanna guess how many ponied up the money?
 This post is:  Informative (1) | Funny (0) | Huh? (0) | Off Topic (0) | Inappropriate (0) |   Definitions

Luke Sharrett, Student/Intern, Photographer
Washington | DC | United States | Posted: 12:04 AM on 03.26.11
->> I don't think I will ever forget my first NCAA March Madness game when I saw the SI guys' Pelican cases full of remote gear stretching from baseline to baseline. Incredible!
 This post is:  Informative (0) | Funny (0) | Huh? (0) | Off Topic (0) | Inappropriate (0) |   Definitions

Add your comments...
If you'd like to add your comments to this thread, use this form. You need to be an active (paying) member of SportsShooter.com in order to post messages to the system.

NOTE: If you would like to report a problem you've found within the SportsShooter.com website, please let us know via the 'Contact Us' form, which alerts us immediately. It is not guaranteed that a member of the staff will see your message board post.
Thread Title: Beck's SI Cover
Thread Started By: Max Waugh
Message:
Member Login:
Password:




Return to -->
Message Board Main Index
Which former sprint-start now starts a career as a Wide Receiver ? Go see here: ::..