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Artflakes.com?
Kevin Novak, Photographer, Assistant
Bel Air (Baltimore) | MD | USA | Posted: 6:43 PM on 03.09.11
->> I received the following email through my Photoshelter account. Wondering if anyone has had any contact with them and if they are legit. I'm a bit skeptical. I've redacted names and such.

Dear Kevin,
(@artflakes.com) has sent you an inquiry.

Message:
Hi,

i would like to talk about a print on demand cooperation for Germany/Europe.

Could you send me an eMail with your contact data? Then I would send you some additional information.

Best,





Head of Marketing
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Bob Nichols, Photographer
Tipton | IN | USA | Posted: 7:22 PM on 03.09.11
->> Kevin,

I got the same e-mail this morning. I did a little web search, but didn't find anything special.

You are closer to Germany than I am so you can have them.

Good luck!
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Jason Joseph, Photographer
Dublin | OH | USA | Posted: 9:32 PM on 03.09.11
->> Same email here. When you click on the Contact Us link on the website, it says it is Under Construction. Riiiiggghhhhttt!!!!
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Steven Bisig, Photographer
Seattle | WA | USA | Posted: 9:54 PM on 03.09.11
->> same here
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Daniel Putz, Photographer
Owings Mills | MD | USA | Posted: 10:30 PM on 03.09.11
->> same
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Eric Canha, Photographer
Brockton | MA | United States | Posted: 10:33 PM on 03.09.11
->> "" ""
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Mike Ullery, Photographer, Photo Editor
Piqua | OH | USA | Posted: 12:13 AM on 03.10.11
->> Ditto. I asked for more specific info as to what they are looking for but have not heard a response, yet.
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Juerg Schreiter, Photographer
Fort Lauderdale | FL | USA | Posted: 2:13 AM on 03.10.11
->> must be a brand new site .. their contact and about pages are empty, It looks like something real though, They have a nice collection of old photos from a German Newspaper on there.

The Name choice ...flakes could be somewhat unfortunate for doing business in the US :-)
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Andrew Fielding, Photographer, Student/Intern
Denver | CO | USA | Posted: 7:59 PM on 03.10.11
->> I guess I don't meet the minimum qualifications to be a flake.
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Allen Murabayashi, Photographer
New York | NY | USA | Posted: 8:21 PM on 03.10.11
->> We periodically see mass communications of these sorts. I wouldn't necessarily say that they are all scams -- some of them have been legitimate attempts to leverage the aggregation of photographers. Some of these ideas are clearly in nascent stages, so the fact that there's no website might not mean much one way or another.

I think the question to ask beyond the mechanics of commission is "how do you intend to market this?" There are so many websites and so many photographers, and obviously they can't all be winners and successfully differentiate themselves from the rest of the noise.

Sites like 20x200.com have bucked the mold for their style of art & photography. But that site had the name and marketing prowess of a gallery owner behind it.

The success of any new business venture is 90% dependent on its ability to successfully identify and convert an audience for its products and services. In my opinion, it would be very difficult for a company that's not in this country to gain significant traction.

(disclosure: i'm the CEO of PhotoShelter, and we have no idea who artflakes is)
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Mike Ullery, Photographer, Photo Editor
Piqua | OH | USA | Posted: 10:27 AM on 03.11.11
->> Just received this reply:

Dear Mike


thanks for your quick answer, which I really appreciate. As said I want to get in touch regarding a print on demand cooperation and would like to to win you as a partner.



We have run an on-demand printing community in Germany (mygall.net) now very successfully for 3 years, where artists, photographers and other creatives earn commissions when customers order art prints with the artist´s or photographer´s content. mygall.net was founded in 2007 and is continually growing.



Now we have started a second platform that focuses the premium market:



www.artflakes.com



ARTFLAKES has been launched in October 2010. We received an investment by IBB Beteiligungsgesellschaft, a 100% daughter company of a state-owned investment bank, for expanding both nationally and Europe-wide. For the expansion we are searching for institutional content partners like photo agencies, museums and professional photographers.



Partners already aboard are: sueddeutsche.de Photo Collection (one of the biggest German Newspapers in Germany), Bridgeman Art, Lonely Planet Images, The Granger Collection, AWL Images, Terraproject Partners, etc. Soon to come are for example National Geographic and AP. The German market is extremely interesting, as it is one of the biggest markets worldwide.



There are 2 ways for a cooperation:



1. Smaller Partners: up to 1.000 pictures: you would get an own login, so you could upload and manage the pictures yourself to our system: here we would suggest only taking the best shots.



2. Bigger Partners: >1.000 pictures (metadata included, pictures should be from the topic and the quality suitable for art prints): you would

send us a hard drive with the images & metadata.





On this link you find our partner presentation and our FAQ with further information. This link also serves as a PERSONAL registration invitation if you decide to become a partner:



http://www.artflakes.com/member/account/edit_essential?perishable_token=nOi...



We would like to work with you and would like to welcome you aboard!





Best,
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Kevin Novak, Photographer, Assistant
Bel Air (Baltimore) | MD | USA | Posted: 12:23 PM on 03.11.11
->> Thanks for the replies everyone.
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