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PSA Airlines
Constance H. Halporn, Photographer
Brooklyn | NY | USA | Posted: 11:51 AM on 02.14.11
->> I am flying to Jacksonville, NC on PSA Airways and I am trying to figure out what I can carry on the plane.

Does anyone have any experience with them?
Thanks
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Robert Hanashiro, Photographer
Los Angeles | CA | | Posted: 1:31 PM on 02.14.11
->> Check the aircraft for the flight.

Pretty standard is 1 + 1: one "small carry on" and one "personal item".

If the aircraft is a small one --- like a CRJ --- then a roller the size of the Think Tank Photo Airport security will not fit in the overhead.

A quick search finds they fly regional routes for US Air. Check US Air's schedule and see if this shows up.

But knowing what the aircraft is will tell you a lot.
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Steven E. Frischling, Photographer
| | | Posted: 2:59 PM on 02.14.11
->> OAJ is serviced five time daily by US Airways Express / PSA. Four daily flights are on CRJs, one flight is a CR7.

The CRJ and CR7 have the same seats and overhead bins, seats are 17.5" wide and the overhead bins cannot hold 95% of the camera bags on the market. Depending on what you're flying with, you may be forced to Valet Check your bag (ie: leave it at the stairs and pick it up at the stairs when you land).

You can get more info on the seating of the US/PSA CRJ here -
http://bit.ly/eL1yb1
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Robert Hanashiro, Photographer
Los Angeles | CA | | Posted: 12:37 PM on 02.17.11
->> He speaks!

(Or more accurately: "He types!"
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Robert Hanashiro, Photographer
Los Angeles | CA | | Posted: 12:44 PM on 02.17.11
->> I guess this isn't the old "PSA" I used to fly out here in California: Pacific Southwest Airlines!

("The Official Airlines of the Pacific Coast Athletic Association" --- back in the day! The flight attendants all wore pink and orange mini dresses with go-go boots!)
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Steven E. Frischling, Photographer
| | | Posted: 1:30 PM on 02.17.11
->> Bert

You built SportsShooter to help photographers ... and you could have helped this one with your considerable experience traveling with camera equipment. Instead, you really weren't helpful... followed by make an utterly pointless and non-friendly quip ... 6 days after my post ... where I provided more detailed information for them. For some reason you seem to have done more than once recently indicating we have a problem, but you and I, we don't have a problem because I never give you a second thought.

'nuff said!


... that said ... Constance,

For flying on a Bombardier Canadair RegionalJet (CRJ/CR7), you have options depending on what you're traveling with. There are a number of bags that hold a basic kit that can fit under the seats, such as the Think Tank Photo Shape Shifter (
http://bit.ly/36RyIs), Mountainsmith Borealis AT (http://bit.ly/aYGRsy) , Domke F2 (http://bit.ly/dTzue5), Timbuk2 Snoop Camera Messenger (http://bit.ly/f1sRPj) and others in and around that size.

A costly bag that will fit under the seat loaded heavy is the GuraGear Kiboko Bag (
http://bit.ly/LWXld). This bag slides under the seat with barely room to spare, but it can do so packed with 3 bodies, 8 lenses, three compact light stands, 4 strobes, pocket wizards, etc etc etc.

If you have to "Valet Check" your bag make sure it is packed securely. Nothing moves, nothing bounces, everything has some padding. When you place your bag on the cart, if there is one, lay it down face up. You should also clearly mark your bag as "FRAGILE." Don't ask US Airways for a fragile tag, I suggest duct tape and a Sharpie, labeling it on three sides. I've written a bit about leaving bags plane site on regional flights here -
http://bit.ly/oFGyE
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Peter Read Miller, Photographer
Manhattan Beach | CA | USA | Posted: 2:06 PM on 02.17.11
->> A comment on "gate checking" bags. United-the airline I usually fly- now seems to end up checking some carry on bags on almost every flight on their full-size Airbus A319/A320's and even 757's.
Basically with bag charges what they are people bring as much as they can on board and the last people to board can't find space so their bags get gate checked.
OK so far, however on my flight to Dallas 2 weeks ago I watched as the handlers slid the gate checked bags down a ramp to the ground to be put in the plane. Not great, but a well packed bag should survive.
Until the last bag. The handler tossed it towards the ramp and completely missed the ramp. The bag straight dropped from the height of the jetway to the ground. I don't think any amount of packing would allow camera gear to emerge unscathed from a 20 foot drop onto concrete....
And Bert-you're right the "old" PSA was a great airline and fun to fly.
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Robert Hanashiro, Photographer
Los Angeles | CA | | Posted: 2:15 PM on 02.17.11
->> Fish ---

I was obviously leaving it to you to enlighten and entertain.

(Also great info from PRM!)
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Michael Granse, Photographer
Urbana | IL | USA | Posted: 4:43 PM on 02.17.11
->> It is rather difficult to believe that people think that this message board lacks civility.
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Tom Theobald, Photographer
Descanso | CA | USA | Posted: 12:55 PM on 02.19.11
->> Have to comment. mates. For 15-years worked as airline agent at airports (NJ & CA). Worked 98% indoors ticket, gates, some baggage service lost & found. In 1st year tho, I worked both agent & ramp/cargo. Worked 3 different airlines (and yes, the "old" PSA very briefly as "ramper").

I can advise... Most bags get thrown at some point, period. It just happens, day-in, day-out, just how it is loading thousands of bags in aircraft cargo bins. Airlines don't cover damage to electronics, cameras inside bags--->UNLESS it's obvious the bag experienced "gross negligent handling" (ie. got run over by tug truck or was caught and shredded in a conveyor belt). I've seen it all and in the baggage service office as a claims agent. If you think you have a case to plead and it's obvious rough handling, ask for a supervisor and show them the gross negligent handling. It has to be an obvious mangled and shredded bag situation to get compensation. Friends, don't get in that situation--> AVOID CHECKING YOUR CAMERA BAGS. If you run with a Pelican hard case, you should be ok. But any soft camera bag, soft surfboard bag etc etc, you are at risk for damage to ANYTHING sensitive inside (including water damage). Why? Because all bags get moved in hurry and exposed to outdoor weather at every airport, every airline, everyday.

Last summer, I was on a typical small commuter, 50-seat turbo-prop flight to Chicago. On most short hop commuters, your rolling camera bag doesn't fit in the cabin overhead bins. On commuters, you give your bag at last minute to the ramp handler and get it back at the jetway immediate on arrival. Been 8-years since was airline employee and I forgot my above advice ("most bag gets thrown"). Guess was thinking small commuter, not much rough handling. Wrong! When I arrived to sport hall and unpacked camera, lenses...my Nikon 70-200mm looked ok on exterior. But then come to realize that a center glass element had been shaken off it's mount and lens was total no-op. NPS was $540 to repair and insurance paid. But I re-learned my lesson. Always--> AVOID CHECKING YOUR CAMERA BAG you would be surprised how much you can carry-on that way and in your hand. Big glass 300/2.8, 400/2.8 in your hand, go for it! No worries, inflight crew will not hassle you. Use a jacket or sweater etc to pad big glass laid gently in the overheads. Put the bulging camera vests overhead or under your seat during flight and you'll always be a happy camper. Hope this saves some of you. -T
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Tom Theobald, Photographer
Descanso | CA | USA | Posted: 1:01 PM on 02.19.11
->> Edit! The last paragraph didn't all make it. Should read...

Added advice... If you must gate check your soft camera bag due overhead bins full. Get a deep pockets camera vest. Then pull your most sensitive pieces out and stuff them in your camera vest. Cameras, medium & even big glass (plus monopods)-->you would be surprised how much you can carry-on that way and in your hand. Big glass 300/2.8, 400/2.8 in your hand, go for it! No worries, inflight crew will not hassle you. Use a jacket or sweater etc to pad big glass laid gently in the overheads. Put the bulging camera vests there or under your seat during flight and you'll always be a happy camper. Hope this saves some of you. -T
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