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Photo Mechanic: Importing only locked images?
Mat Gdowski, Photographer
Las Vegas | NV | USA | Posted: 12:22 AM on 01.08.11
->> Hey all...

Had a quick Photo Mechanic (PM) question. What settings to you use on your "ingest screen" to import/ingest only locked images from your media card?

I tried opening my SD card as a "contact sheet" first to check my selects really quick. Made sure that my selects were checked/locked and then I tried to ingest only them (picking "locked files only" on the dropdown menu on the "ingest screen"), however, when I did the ingest, it said it ingested like 7 images (the ones I selected), but they are no where to be found. They aren't in the file folder I picked or anything. It's like it said it ingested them, but didn't really ingest them. I even tried it a second time and it said it again, but no files.

So, apparently I'm missing something. I'm using PM on a PC (if it makes any difference).

However, if I changed the dropdown menu to "locked & unlocked files", PM then imported them to the file folder I originally selected with no problems. Of course it downloaded everything off the SD card, but I didn't change anything but that one option. So, why would it say it ingested just the locked files and nothing came through, but when it ingested the entire card, all of them came through?

Any suggestions? Anyone maybe have a screen print of how theirs is setup if they ingest only locked files from their media card?

Thanks in advance!
Mat G.
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Dennis Wierzbicki, Photographer
Plainfield | IL | USA | Posted: 9:41 AM on 01.08.11
->> Mat,

What OS and version of PM are you using?

On Mac OS 10.6 and PM version 4.6.6, here's what does the trick:

Select File>Ingest

Then look for a set of drop-down menus on the right side of the window titled something like "Filter Settings"; then select "Copy Locked Photos Only"

Hope this helps. I can make a screen capture of the window and send it to if you'd like. Contact me via my SS page.
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George Bridges, Photographer, Photo Editor
Washington | DC | USA | Posted: 10:59 AM on 01.08.11
->> Mat,

Check your window view in the folder you are browsing after ingest. It should be a pull-down menu on the top.

You may have the show "Untagged" only showing so your images are there, but you can't see them,

Either change the pull-down menu at the top or hit F1 and you should see All images.

And, FYI, my workflow is to ingest everything and as soon as I go to my edit folder I hit F3 to show Tagged only. That way all my images are there but I'm only looking at my tagged images first thing. I can then quickly go back to the All view to see other images around them or get uniform numbers that may be obstructed in the selected image.
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Dennis Wierzbicki, Photographer
Plainfield | IL | USA | Posted: 11:17 AM on 01.08.11
->> Oh, geez, I'm such a ....didn't even see what you had written about your entire problem. Guess that's what happens when I respond to things right after getting up on a Sat. morning. Doh! RT_Q!

George is onto something. It's likely you've chosen the wrong view option, and that your images are there, but you're just not seeing them due to your view option. His advice is also useful (ingest all but show only Locked) however, depending on the number of images I've taken, I sometimes will only ingest tagged shots to expedite submitting on deadline. George is exactly right that adjacent images can be invaluable to determining played ID, and right after submitting my game end shots I will ingest unlocked shots from cards to help me out. Before I bought a new MacBook Pro, though, I was using an old PowerBook 12" and it would take FOREVER to ingest an entire card, so I pretty much had to ingest only tagged/locked shots on deadline, and if a player ID was uncertain, I'd just have to figure it out after the game. My new MBP makes it a lot quicker to ingest the entire card, though.
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Mat Gdowski, Photographer
Las Vegas | NV | USA | Posted: 10:56 PM on 01.12.11
->> Dennis & George - thanks for the info.

Maybe for some reason I left the "untagged" on, but I didn't think so. Here is what I did at that time:

1) Open the SD card as a contact sheet showing all files (F1)
2) Pressed F3 to see only the tagged files and select those certain ones to import (some got unchecked).
3) Clicked File>Ingest to ingest ONLY those files that were selected/checked. In the Ingest form, I picked (from the drop down) "locked files only"

But I thought it should have created another contact sheet with only the locked files I ingested because I was now ingesting them from the SD card onto a folder on my hard drive. That folder was never created on my hard drive. I even checked outside of PM to make sure. So, even if I ultimately didn't reslect F1 (which I may not have), the new folder with the selected images should have been on my hard drive and it wasn't. :-(

Dennis - As a side note, at the time I was running PM 4.6.6 and Windows 7 Home Premium edition.

So, I don't know if I selected something wrong or didn't select something. :-(

I just got a MacBook Pro from Apple today. So, tomorrow I'm going to try and test some imports by just selecting a few images, leaving it as F1, so all images show and then try ingesting only the locked files and see what goes.

I used to download all of my images (because I need them on my hard drive anyway), but people were telling me that I should try and select off the SD card instead to try and save some time instead of downloading the entire card at the half or in between periods, etc...

Normally, I always downloaded the entire card, then did my selects or hit F3 to show only selects (as you stated, George) and then went from there. Maybe I'll go back to doing that if I can't get this to work properly.

Thanks for trying to help and I'll update what I find out when I install everything on my MBP. :-)
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Chuck Liddy, Photographer
Durham | NC | USA | Posted: 12:36 AM on 01.13.11
->> matt, I'm sorry but PM is one of the easiest programs I've ever used. I'm confused as to why you're having a problem. Make a folder on your desktop for whatever you name your assignment...make that a target destination for your ingest...viola!!!! all your photos from the card appear there. you tagged some? yep....use the pull down menu and pick "tagged"....your photos appear...I'm confused to your problem...it's so simple a caveman could do it!
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George Bridges, Photographer, Photo Editor
Washington | DC | USA | Posted: 10:07 AM on 01.13.11
->> Mat,

What Chuck said.

You are expecting the program to do to much and the workflow is off a bit.

You need to create the edit folder on your computer.

If you open your card as a contact sheet and then do the View Only Tagged and select some , at that point you DON'T want to Ingest but COPY (Cmd Y).

Ingest is for pulling directly from the card only, it does not matter what you are looking at. Ingest grabs from the card and moves to a folder you designate (in the top right of the Ingest dialog -- Cmd G -- you should see a section marked "Primary Destination" you do the Browse and route to).

If you want to Ingest ONLY images tagged in camera then you can skip a step. Simply go into Preferences and tell PM to launch Ingest dialog on card insertion. Then set the default there to ingest tagged only. So when you put in a card you don't see a contact sheet but the ingest dialog immediately. If before the game you designate the folder you want to copy to you simply hit OK and you're off.
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George Bridges, Photographer, Photo Editor
Washington | DC | USA | Posted: 10:11 AM on 01.13.11
->> Mat,

Also,

Unless you are on a very tight deadline I would suggest you ingest the full card first (at this time you can change the file name to the game title and put in some basic caption info in the fields at the same time).

Once you ingest have it automatically open the contact sheet and then you can hit F3 for tagged only and do your edit. My workflow is to view tagged only and flip through those adding a color selection to the ones I want. Then I drop out the other colors so I'm looking only at my tight edit to crop & tone.

The reason I say Ingest first if you have time is that you will then have the images in two places -- on the card and on your computer -- as you work on them. Then if you make a mistake to a critical image such as accidentally delete it or accidentally save the cropped version over the original, you can go back to the disk and get it back.
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Mat Gdowski, Photographer
Las Vegas | NV | USA | Posted: 7:00 PM on 01.28.11
->> Chuck - I agree...I do like PM for the simplicity and that is one of the reasons I use it. I guess I'm lower than a caveman. :-(

George wrote: "If you open your card as a contact sheet and then do the View Only Tagged and select some , at that point you DON'T want to Ingest but COPY (Cmd Y).

Ingest is for pulling directly from the card only, it does not matter what you are looking at."

Now that makes sense to me, George. I didn't think about it like that because I've never opened it as a contact sheet before. I'll bet if I just did the normal ingest without opening it as a contact sheet first, then it would ingest just the locked/tagged photos.

Maybe I should get some faster cards as well. I'm currently working with Sandisk Extreme SD cards and they are only at 30mb/s cards. I'm looking at changing back over to CF cards and possibly picking up Sandisk Extreme IV cards to help my read/write speeds.

Thank you soooo much for your time/patience of writing back. I really appreciate it! :-)

Have a great day!
Mat G.
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