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Stolen 400mm 2.8 IS
Shane Dignum, Photographer
Northridge | CA | US | Posted: 10:35 PM on 10.08.10
->> Hey everyone, I purchased a 400mm 2.8 IS lens a couple months ago and it was stolen just 5 days ago. I now see it for sell on ebay... 95% sure its mine. Where is the serial number located on that lens?
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Donald Montague, Photographer
Orlando | FL | | Posted: 10:52 PM on 10.08.10
->> Look on your receipt. If you purchased it from a reputable dealer then it will be on there. But it is near the lens mount on the lens.
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Yamil Sued, Photographer, Photo Editor
Peoria | AZ | USA | Posted: 4:14 PM on 10.09.10
->> Shane, how can you be so sure that this is your lens on Ebay??

Can you share the Auction with us?? I won't bid one it, I don't shoot Canon!!

Just curious...

Y
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Louis Lopez, Photographer
Fontana | CA | USA | Posted: 7:10 PM on 10.09.10
->> I would call the police and let them know before putting it up here.
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Jeff Kowalsky, Photographer
West Bloomfield | MI | United States | Posted: 8:08 PM on 10.09.10
->> Will your insurance cover your loss?
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Chuck Liddy, Photographer
Durham | NC | USA | Posted: 4:50 AM on 10.10.10
->> I just have to ask, you bought a 400 2.8 and you DON'T know the serial number? please pass me the aspirin, I think I'm getting a headache.......
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Larry Lawson, Photographer
Portland | OR | USA | Posted: 11:43 PM on 10.10.10
->> @Don - Serial # isn't always on the receipt. None of my receipts have a serial # on them, either from B&H, Beach, or Photocraft. I took a photo of each lenses serial number for insurance purposes.

@Shane - How would you know a lens on ebay is yours - there's what.. 25 of them there?
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Chuck Liddy, Photographer
Durham | NC | USA | Posted: 12:50 AM on 10.11.10
->> yup, the silence is deafening on this post.
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Jeff Lewis, Photographer
Los Angeles | CA | USA | Posted: 1:10 AM on 10.11.10
->> Shane,

Serial number is on the lens right under the mount.

I've had cameras stolen before and at this moment, the last thing somebody needs to hear is what they did wrong. 400's cost a ton of money so we should not put him down for what he did not do. Give him a break, he is a good guy and he is just trying to get his lens back.

Jeff Lewis
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Chuck Liddy, Photographer
Durham | NC | USA | Posted: 5:02 AM on 10.11.10
->> jeff, with all due respect, no one is bashing him, I've had a lot of stuff stolen over the years, but I have have to ask, IF he is asking where the serial number is it surely means he doesn't have the serial number. and there is no way I would have had a lens that costs as much as a used car for two months without knowing the serial number. the other question which is very strange, as larry posted above, if he doesn't have the serial number how the devil would he know if the lens was on ebay? hey, maybe he has answers, but he hasn't said anything else since the first post. these are reasonable questions. but if you want to look at the positive side, this should be a warning to anyone who goes out and gets a second mortgage to buy a super telephoto...write down the serial number before you even take it out of the store.
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Sam Santilli, Photographer, Photo Editor
Philippi | WV | USA | Posted: 8:28 AM on 10.11.10
->> Shane, any update on the lens?

A couple of ways to know an item on Ebay may be yours:
1. The location of the seller
2. Shane may have bought it used, it could have a distictive mark/ding on it.

Chuck...you on the night shift? Or just can't sleep when it is dark out?
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Chuck Liddy, Photographer
Durham | NC | USA | Posted: 10:17 AM on 10.11.10
->> @sam, I'm in a very different time zone. not a vampire. 8)
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Kevin Krows, Photographer
Forsyth | IL | USA | Posted: 10:44 AM on 10.11.10
->> Chuck is much too busy to waste his time sleeping.
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Michael Granse, Photographer
Urbana | IL | USA | Posted: 11:15 AM on 10.11.10
->> For such an expensive transaction, it is reasonably likely that the retailer has a record of the serial number. This would prevent someone from trying to buy a new lens, receive it, and then send their own slightly used or malfunctioning lens back to the retailer for a refund in an effort to pass it off as the new one that they had just purchased.
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Chuck Liddy, Photographer
Durham | NC | USA | Posted: 12:28 PM on 10.11.10
->> I can sleep when I'm dead.
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Richard Shiro, Photographer
Greenville | SC | USA | Posted: 11:46 PM on 10.11.10
->> Gwinn Davis, staffer for the Greenville News had his 400 and D3 stolen at the South Carolina vs Alabama game Saturday. Laid it down to shoot the jube and poof it was gone. Lost second half game images too.
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Chuck Liddy, Photographer
Durham | NC | USA | Posted: 12:40 AM on 10.12.10
->> wow, that truly sucks.
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Michael Fischer, Photographer
Spencer | Ia | USA | Posted: 1:03 AM on 10.12.10
->> Take this as a reminder to check your insurance and make sure everything is up to date and as it should be.

Shane, this is why you MUST ALWAYS keep your serial numbers. Want to know where mine are? ON THE INSURANCE RIDER next to the model numbers. There isn't really a good reason not to have this information. I hope you recover your lens or that your insurance carrier comes through.
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Louis Lopez, Photographer
Fontana | CA | USA | Posted: 2:43 AM on 10.12.10
->> Guess I don't look so silly anymore when I have a 400mm 2.8 strapped to my back while shooting the postgame celebrations after bowl games. I have had a few awkward looks from various other shooters over the years .
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Chuck Liddy, Photographer
Durham | NC | USA | Posted: 3:19 AM on 10.12.10
->> yup louis, you ARE smarter than you look! 8)
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Sam Santilli, Photographer, Photo Editor
Philippi | WV | USA | Posted: 9:50 AM on 10.12.10
->> Chuck is the time zone you are in vertual, viral, or in the front of the phone book that has the page with the world sliced up in time zones?
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Sam Santilli, Photographer, Photo Editor
Philippi | WV | USA | Posted: 4:54 PM on 10.12.10
->> Chuck, someone e-mailed that you are in a war zone. Please keep your head down.
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David Manning, Photographer
Athens | GA | | Posted: 6:35 PM on 10.12.10
->> This is the second time I've heard of a 400mm being stolen at a SEC game in the past 2 years. (The other being at the Georgia Dome)

Personally, i leave it on my shoulder after a game. I would never leave lens that costs almost as much as a car unattended. It sucks having to run with an extra 15 pounds on my body but there's not much of a choice, IMO.
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Dan Megna, Photographer
Coronado | CA | USA | Posted: 10:32 PM on 10.12.10
->> Hope this isn't viewed as a hijack but in reading this thread I couldn't help but think about an email I received this weekend from a buddy in Jackson, Wyoming...

He wrote -

A friend of mine left the Photo at the Summit here Saturday for Texas on United. He planned to stay in Denver for 2 nights before heading home. He went to collect his bags and only 1 of his 3 Pelican Cases came to baggage claim in Denver. United shows them getting on the plane in JH, off the plane in Denver and then poof! Gone.....

No records once Denver Airport started handling. $16,000 in camera equipment gone. United won't cover it because it did not disappear from them. It was Denver airport authority. Denver Airport just said fill-out a police report and they will get back to him in 60-90 days!

400mm f/4 AFS, 2 external RAID drives, tripod, gimbal head, D300s, filters, Pelican Cases, etc......
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Shane Dignum, Photographer
Northridge | CA | US | Posted: 2:50 AM on 10.13.10
->> Hey Guys,

Thanks for all the responses, sorry I've been busy the last week. I knew it was my lens for a few reasons.... Date code was from june of this year and he states being the second owner, Location was about an hour away, I had a Don Zeck lens cap that was missing a screw so was his, and he was missing the box because It's at my house.

It can all just be a coincidence but its very unlikely which is why I was 95% sure. Unfortunately there was no serial number on the receipt and B&H seems to only have a stocking serial number so there's no way to prove it. The lens was sold yesterday and the Police still haven't assigned a detective to the case so things aren't looking to good.
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Stew Milne, Photographer
Providence | RI | USA | Posted: 7:10 AM on 10.13.10
->> Tell the police everything you just told us. Even though you don't have the serial number, the other items you mentioned may identify it enough as yours for the police to take action. This will probably take a long time, but hopefully you will get a happy outcome.

The police should be able to follow the trail of the lens, from it's current owner, to the seller and where he received it from.

I would pressure B&H further. They probably do have the serial # of the lens, they just don't want to look for it for you.
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Mark Peters, Photographer
Highland | IL | USA | Posted: 8:05 AM on 10.13.10
->> Shane - the serial number is on the warranty card. Do you have that?
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Margaret Bowles, Photographer
Tampa | FL | | Posted: 8:07 AM on 10.13.10
->> The police probably won't do much, unfortunately. My house was burglarized a year ago and every piece of camera and computer equipment I owned was stolen. I had serial numbers, descriptions, etc. A sportsshooter member gave me a tip that the same day my stuff was stolen, he was in a camera store about 40 miles away when someone tried to sell the store owner a 600mm and 400mm lens (which I owned). The store owner gave me the person's phone number, and I contacted the police and gave them the information. A week later, I followed up with the police, and the detective said they hadn't pursued it because they didn't think the information was relevant. What??? I never got any of it back--$60,000 worth of stuff. The point is, insurance, insurance, insurance. Get it if you don't have it because the chances of recovering stolen property are pretty slim, even if you have serial numbers. The police have bigger fish to fry.
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Jon Gardiner, Photographer
Durham | NC | USA | Posted: 8:10 AM on 10.13.10
->> The serial number should be on the box that you say you still have.

-J
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Michael Granse, Photographer
Urbana | IL | USA | Posted: 10:29 AM on 10.13.10
->> If the thief happens to read this thread, he or she will know that the lens has a Don Zeck lens cap with a missing screw. Is there any chance that Shane's most recent post could be deleted or at least edited to leave out this detail?

If the thief reads this, that lens cap is going to disappear and without a serial number this lens cap abnormality is the only potential identifying feature unique to this lens.
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Brian Dowling, Photographer
Los Angeles | CA | USA | Posted: 1:59 PM on 10.13.10
->> If he was only an hour away, I would have won the auction and met him in person to pick it up and brought a few friends...
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Keith Tharp, Photographer
Londonderry | NH | usa | Posted: 7:40 PM on 10.13.10
->> +1 on Brian's comment,
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Andrew Katsampes, Photographer
Melrose | MA | USA | Posted: 12:28 AM on 10.18.10
->> In summary, police are lazy. My custom painted car was stolen. A year+ later, I spotted it at the movie theater. I recorded the new VIN and plates. I reported the information to the police. Click, click, click, and they have the address. They did NOTHING. I told my story to the Attorney General and the State Commissioner of Insurance. No one cares. Police are only worried about staying safe, fed with doughnuts, and collecting their pensions. The VIN on my car is stamped on the firewall as well as other locations. Drives me crazy when people comment about police risking their lives everyday. If you do nothing, where is the risk.
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Mike Janes, Photographer
Attica | NY | USA | Posted: 12:39 AM on 10.18.10
->> Andrew - if you judge a group of people off the worst in the group it's difficult to find anyone who is good in this world. Why didn't you sit there, call the police sitting there with the car waiting for the owner? You're insulting some very good friends and family members who are officers with that comment based off one bad experience, come on!
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Chuck Liddy, Photographer
Durham | NC | USA | Posted: 3:04 AM on 10.18.10
->> True story. A guy in town saw someone breaking into his garage...he called 911. the dispatcher asked if he was in danger...he said "no, the guys are breaking into the (detached) garage". she told him all officers were busy and it would be at least 30 minutes before they could respond....and hung up. he called back five minutes later and told the dispatcher he shot the intruder....two minutes later there were five squad cars there....if you need a cop say you shot someone. they like responding to those situations. but I am seriously with brian on this...I would have said I want to buy the lens and set up a meet....and brought along my louisville slugger......
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Louis Lopez, Photographer
Fontana | CA | USA | Posted: 7:34 AM on 10.18.10
->> Chuck,
looking at you through that thick plastic jail glass could be the spark you need for that super model career...
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Louis Lopez, Photographer
Fontana | CA | USA | Posted: 7:35 AM on 10.18.10
->> Chuck,
:-)
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Alan Herzberg, Photographer
Elm Grove | WI | USA | Posted: 8:56 AM on 10.18.10
->> Quote from above: "...if you need a cop say you shot someone. they like responding to those situations. but I am seriously with brian on this...I would have said I want to buy the lens and set up a meet....and brought along my louisville slugger......"



I can hear the 9-1-1 call now:

"9-1-1? Liddy here. Huh? No, not 'Gordon', 'Chuck'. Anyway, I've been shot trying to recover a stolen lens. What? It's a Canon, of course, but that's not really the issue at the moment. Please hurry! Now the guy's coming back to hit me with my baseball bat. Don't ask, just hurry."
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Michael Granse, Photographer
Urbana | IL | USA | Posted: 10:24 AM on 10.18.10
->> Donuts and pensions?

Andrew, there was an incident in New York City in September of 2001 in which a significant number of NYC and Port Authority police officers lost their lives because they chose to run into a terrible situation that most civilians were running away from. If you are interested in learning more about this, a Google search should give you all the information you need.

These were not people who were too busy eating donuts and worrying about their pensions to be bothered with helping others, but brave people who placed themselves in harm's way in order to ensure the safety of others.

If you research the topic a bit further, you may find that the behavior of these officers is not an isolated incident but something that police officers all over the country do every day though be it in smaller numbers and not all in the same location.
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Joe Kaleita, Photographer
Orlando | FL | USA | Posted: 11:00 AM on 10.18.10
->> I'm sure Amadou Diallo, if he was still alive, would have a much different opinion, Michael.
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Yamil Sued, Photographer, Photo Editor
Peoria | AZ | USA | Posted: 11:04 AM on 10.18.10
->> The Bad actions of a few shouldn't tarnish the Brave actions of Many!!

Shame on you!!
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Alexander Pylyshyn, Photographer, Student/Intern
Newmarket | ON | Canada | Posted: 11:17 AM on 10.18.10
->> All due respect, Joe, I think you would have a much different opinion if the thousands of unseen officers in your area stopped doing their job and were as lazy as some are claiming them to be.

The good old stereotype that police officers are all evil people who just abuse their power and hurt innocents is a tiring one...it's ridiculous how the actions of a few bad apples are always picked out over the cops who do their jobs and are credit to the communities they serve to protect.

Best of luck with your lost lens, Shane. Hope you're able to recover it.
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Jeff Stanton, Photographer
Indiana | IN | USA | Posted: 12:15 PM on 10.18.10
->> I'm not a huge fan of the police, but I know enough of them that there are good ones and not so good ones like there is in most other lines of work.

I can say one thing about the cops around my town: If $60,000 worth of camera gear was stolen from a house like in Margaret's case, the police would be all over it here. It's a small town and that would be a significant theft for them to investigate.

I listen to the police scanner all night at work and I hear how they respond to various situations. They do respond rather quickly and it doesn't have to be a shooting. They really hit it hard when there is a reported B&E (breaking and entering( in progress. And they have caught a lot of people in the act too. I would say the homeowners were probably very happy.

Another thing, we have a terrible meth problem in this area. The police are the ones who respond to these calls about suspected meth activity and it's never a good situation. There could be an explosion, exposure to all sorts of dangerous chemicals and guess what" John Q. Public doesn't have to deal with it because the cops do. So the police may have some bad points, and some of them do, but overall, we need them because a lot of them try to do a good job.
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Kevin Novak, Photographer, Assistant
Bel Air (Baltimore) | MD | USA | Posted: 7:45 PM on 10.18.10
->> Joe,

Seriously? I mean, seriously?
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Dirk Dewachter, Photographer
Playa Del Rey | CA | USA | Posted: 1:44 PM on 10.19.10
->> Joe,

Your comment regarding the police in general is unwarranted and inexcusable. Maybe you need to think before you open your mouth or write something that vitriolic on a public forum. Rather than to pass judgment on a group of people, try walking in their shoes before you condemn them all for the acts of a few. Next time you need their help, and believe me with the odds these days you probably at some point do need to call them, you might be pleasantly surprised of what they do for you or the communities they work in even though there are elements within those communities that hate what they stand for but they defend your right to speak your mind.
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Joe Kaleita, Photographer
Orlando | FL | USA | Posted: 2:15 PM on 10.19.10
->> All due respect to everyone involved, but I was only pointing out that others may have differing opinions, and very valid reasons for those differing opinions. Certainly no vitriol intended.
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Joe Kaleita, Photographer
Orlando | FL | USA | Posted: 2:32 PM on 10.19.10
->> One more thought -
Certainly I don't believe all law enforcement officers are bad, just as I'm sure you don't believe they're all good. We might disagree about where that middle ground lies, but that doesn't make hateful or wrong. My original post was in response to a generalization made from an extraordinary situation, which is what my response was.
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Dirk Dewachter, Photographer
Playa Del Rey | CA | USA | Posted: 2:40 PM on 10.19.10
->> Joe, there are other ways to express your opinion, as you did in your two recent more rational posts where you expressed your point of view in a more civilized, less insensitive manner.
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Yamil Sued, Photographer, Photo Editor
Peoria | AZ | USA | Posted: 3:11 PM on 10.19.10
->> Joe,

Your Original response was out of line!!

It basically said that just because of one incident, there are NO good cops out there!!

I stand by my response to you...

"The Bad actions of a few shouldn't tarnish the Brave actions of Many!!"

God Bless those who selflessly rant into danger on 9/11....

Real Heroes!!

Y
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Jeremy Harmon, Photo Editor, Photographer
Salt Lake City | UT | USA | Posted: 3:58 PM on 10.19.10
->> "God Bless those who selflessly rant"

Considering the path this thread went down, the typo in this statement is pretty funny. After this I'm going to start referring to everything on the message board as a "selfless rant".
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