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OT-World Cup; what's that noise?
Phil Hawkins, Photographer
Fresno | ca | usa | Posted: 4:21 PM on 06.11.10
->> I'm not a huge soccer fan, so maybe this is an elementary question; I'm watching the WC coverage on ESPN, and there seems to be this bee-hive sounding racket in the background that seems like it's coming from the crowd. Is everyone blaring these noisemakers non-stop? Wow, how irritating. Sounds like microphones picking up the crowd noise are 50% out of phase.
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Sebastian Widmann, Photographer
Munich | Bavaria | Germany | Posted: 4:27 PM on 06.11.10
->> That is exactly what it sounds like in the stadium without earplugs you might go crazy but it is their cultur, so go Bafana Bafana!!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vuvuzela
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Chuck Liddy, Photographer
Durham | NC | USA | Posted: 4:48 PM on 06.11.10
->> I was covering it in a restaurant and no one could figure it out....thanks....I can let the owner know there was nothing wrong with his sat system.
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Jamey Price, Photographer, Assistant
Charlotte | NC | USA | Posted: 4:57 PM on 06.11.10
->> Hey guys and gals,

I just got back from a non photo assignment related trip to Africa. I spent about 1.5 weeks in South Africa touring 'Joberg' and Cape Town among other places.

That noise you are hearing is called a Vuvuzela. Basically if you can imagine a horn, thats all it is. A plastic horn. You blow into it making a buzzing sound with your lips and it amplifies it many many hundreds of times.

It is a south african football tradition started in the 1970s. Everyone and their mother has one. Truly and without exaggeration, every corner shopkeeper in all of South Africa sells them for a few dollars.

To give you an idea of the noise level it produces, a chainsaw runs at approx 100 decibels. ONE vuvuzela makes about 127 decibels. Now imagine a stadium of 80,000 full of them. Sustained decibels of 80 or more will give permanent hearing damage.

They are fun...for a while...but it gets really obnoxious and loud after a few minutes of people walking around aimlessly blowing their vuvuzela all day.

Hope that helps some. Get used to it. Theyre going to be everywhere and at EVERY. SINGLE. MATCH.

On another note, South Africa is BEAUTIFUL. I really recommend going sometime in your life. I never felt uncomfortable at any point. And cape town especially is a world class city like none other.
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Max Waugh, Photographer
Bothell | WA | USA | Posted: 5:43 PM on 06.11.10
->> You can tell ESPN cut the audio levels for the crowd mics due to the horns. Crowd reactions and chants seem muted, which is a bummer since they typically add a nice sense of atmosphere to big televised soccer events.
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Greg Kendall-Ball, Photographer, Assistant
Abilene | TX | USA | Posted: 5:48 PM on 06.11.10
->> http://spitorswallow.co.za/blowme.php

Don't worry, the "Spit or Swallow" is for a South African wine tasting thing, and the "Blow Me" is the page for a virtual vuvuzela.

Turn up the speakers and enjoy!

Bafana! Bafana!
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Svein Ove Ekornesvaag, Photographer
Aalesund | Møre og Romsdal | Norway | Posted: 6:02 PM on 06.11.10
->> The vuvuzela is driving me crazy already, and I've only seen two matches (on tv). In the opening match I just had to turn off the sound, or stop watching.

I can't imagine how horrible it must be to hear this sound live on the stadium. Norwegian doctors recommended people to bring ear plugs to prevent permanent hearing damage.

The vuvuzelas should be confiscated by the security outside the stadium.
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Mark Loundy, Photo Editor
San Jose | CA | USA | Posted: 6:30 PM on 06.11.10
->> Not even close to being new. Identical horns have been sold at U.S. sporting events for many decades. I owned one more than 35 years ago.

--Mark
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Aleksi Lepisto, Photographer
Sacramento | CA | United States | Posted: 6:40 PM on 06.11.10
->> You can buy these at parades here in America, people just actually blow into them instead of making the buzzing noise.

I think I even remember some people getting really mad - maybe it was the last WC? Anyway, I think some of the officials were trying to make sure people didn't use them because it took away from the games, or something.

It's kinda cool sounding - but I bet it gets old.
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Max Waugh, Photographer
Bothell | WA | USA | Posted: 7:28 PM on 06.11.10
->> Apparently they weren't loud enough for the South African keeper today.

"We couldn’t hear the vuvuzelas... We expected to hear them and to be lifted by the people and the noise and the atmosphere.... It was a letdown."

http://tiny.cc/bqbf6
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Daniel Putz, Photographer
Owings Mills | MD | USA | Posted: 7:57 PM on 06.11.10
->> I remember having one at A's games in the late 90s. As a kid, nothing was cooler than a yellow & green foam finger and a green plastic trumpet.
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Wally Nell, Photographer
CAIRO | EG | EGYPT | Posted: 8:08 PM on 06.11.10
->> Yeah baby, vuvuzelas! Very cool thing indeed. I doubt very much the decibels are higher than that of a chainsaw. I have one and it is not that loud.
Hey the Scandinavians have cow bells or something, we have vuvuzelas!
Felt good to watch the games on TV and hear the vibe!
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David Minton, Student/Intern, Photographer
Denton | TX | USA | Posted: 9:03 PM on 06.11.10
->> Obviously y'all never heard about the brand of soccer they play south of the border.

Otherwise you'd know that the REAL use for those things is to blast Tecate across the 12 rows in front of/to the side of you. Or if you're in the front row, to shoot game program spitballs/more beer at the photographers on the field.

It's shocking how accurate 12 year-old Chivas or Pachuca fans are with one of those things.
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Jeff Findley, Photographer
Normal | IL | USA | Posted: 10:46 PM on 06.11.10
->> Discussion on the broadcast today talked about their relationship to the African heritage, and no one was endorsing the removal from the fans, but rather just suggesting they only be allowed to blow during scoring and other exciting moments.

Good luck making that determination!

The announcers had on huge, sound limited headphones, which I hadn't seen used in years. I'm sure that was the reason.
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Aleksi Lepisto, Photographer
Sacramento | CA | United States | Posted: 11:27 PM on 06.11.10
->> Here's an article about it - I just found it again


http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/africa/8106502.stm
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Dennis Wierzbicki, Photographer
Plainfield | IL | USA | Posted: 7:36 AM on 06.12.10
->> "just suggesting they only be allowed to blow during scoring and other exciting moments."

Well that would silence them entirely, wouldn't it? ;)
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Dennis Wierzbicki, Photographer
Plainfield | IL | USA | Posted: 8:05 AM on 06.12.10
->> One thing's for sure - in my household my wife has issued an edict: as long as those horns are buzzing, the games won't be watched on our family TV.

She's a sports fan, and 4 years ago actually got into the WC, but this year, if the vuvuzelas are vuvuzeling we won't be tuning in. I'll have to go elsewhere to view the matches.
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Alex Witkowicz, Photographer
Denver | Co | USA | Posted: 10:44 AM on 06.12.10
->> I heard that after the Commission of Whiners bans vuvuzelas, they are going to start lobbying for bigger mufflers at NASCAR, and will also begin funding the development of squeakless basketball shoes.
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Rene Mireles, Photographer
Holland | MI | USA | Posted: 11:53 AM on 06.12.10
->> Yeah it got pretty annoying watching the games, but good thing for me that my tv goes through a EQ stereo system and I was able to move that sound out.
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Daniel Putz, Photographer
Owings Mills | MD | USA | Posted: 12:06 PM on 06.12.10
->> the fix for squeakless basketball shoes: teflon coating!

(that wont work will it?)
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Mark Loundy, Photo Editor
San Jose | CA | USA | Posted: 2:48 PM on 06.12.10
->> Daniel,

No, but it would make the game a lot more entertaining. Or at least funnier.

--Mark
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Dianna Russell, Photographer
Springfield | MO | USA | Posted: 3:50 PM on 06.12.10
->> That is the most annoying sound. Ever.

http://tinyurl.com/36pee8u
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Tami Chappell, Photographer, Photo Editor
Atlanta | Ga | USA | Posted: 5:59 PM on 06.12.10
->> I had to shut off the sound. I found it more than annoying. The only soccer games I have covered involved extrememely loud horn noises blowing constantly. Not sure which is worse.
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Tom Suarez, Photographer
Austin | texas | USA | Posted: 4:08 PM on 06.13.10
->> http://msn.foxsports.com/foxsoccer/worldcup/story/vuvuzela-drone-killing-wo...
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Ron Erdrich, Photographer
Abilene | TX | USA | Posted: 6:02 PM on 06.13.10
->> No, I believe this is the most annoying sound in the world.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qi6vWpc3Hs0
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Manuello Paganelli, Photographer
Los Angeles | CA | USA | Posted: 2:16 PM on 06.14.10
->> http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/world_cup_2010/8737455.stm
from the BBC


World Cup 2010: Organisers will not ban vuvuzelas


The vuvuzela has already made a big impact at the World Cup
World Cup organisers say they will not ban vuvuzelas from stadiums in South Africa, despite numerous complaints.
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Jamey Price, Photographer, Assistant
Charlotte | NC | USA | Posted: 3:45 PM on 06.14.10
->> I think it would be morally wrong if they did ban them. Believe me, I KNOW THEYRE ANNOYING (you should hear it in real life) but South African fans have used these things since 1970 and World Cup and FIFA organizers should have known theyd be big sellers in South Africa for these games. Its not like these are new or a surprise for anyone.
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Nic Coury, Photographer
Monterey | CA | | Posted: 5:18 PM on 06.14.10
->> I really think Wikipedia should have been checked before this thread started...

http://i.imgur.com/CGbjS.png

It's changed now unfortunately...
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Gary Shook, Photographer
Otsego | MI | USA | Posted: 9:32 PM on 06.14.10
->> YOU CAN GET A RING TONE NOW!!! THERE IS AN APP FOR THAT!!!BIG MIKE ON MIKE AND MIKE GOT IT..............!!
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Jamey Price, Photographer, Assistant
Charlotte | NC | USA | Posted: 10:25 PM on 06.14.10
->> In real life, they dont sound like bees. It sounds like any other horn. I think the TV makes it sound worse than it does in real life.
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Stew Milne, Photographer
Providence | RI | USA | Posted: 2:24 PM on 06.15.10
->> ESPN announcers just informed the TV audience that they will be using filters to minimize the sound of the vuvuzelas during the N. Korea v Brazil match. I guess they got a lot of complaints.
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Jamey Price, Photographer, Assistant
Charlotte | NC | USA | Posted: 4:24 PM on 06.15.10
->> Look. They can produce more than one note!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/newsnight/8741086.stm
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Joshua Brown, Photographer
New York | NY | USA | Posted: 5:02 PM on 06.15.10
->> http://twitter.com/the_vuvuzela
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Dylan Lynch, Photographer, Assistant
Edmonton | AB | Canada | Posted: 2:22 AM on 06.17.10
->> It's taking over the internet, see for yourself:

http://www.vuvuzela-time.co.uk/sportsshooter.com
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Jamey Price, Photographer, Assistant
Charlotte | NC | USA | Posted: 7:12 PM on 06.20.10
->> Heres a funny one. If you've seen Invictus, you need to see this.

http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1937652
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Corey Perrine, Photographer
Augusta | GA | USA | Posted: 8:49 PM on 06.20.10
->> Because you can't get enough on TV, get the app...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3xDWk9vbNw
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Nick Adams, Photographer
Lynchburg | VA | | Posted: 11:31 PM on 06.20.10
->> http://ca.reuters.com/article/sportsNews/idCATRE65J0JN20100620

now its vivuzela time for baseball.
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Jamey Price, Photographer, Assistant
Charlotte | NC | USA | Posted: 9:41 PM on 06.22.10
->> HA!

Add the first link in your web browser and the website you want to look at after the back slash. For example...

http://www.vuvuzela-time.co.uk/sportsshooter.com
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Marcio J. Sanchez, Photographer
San Francisco | CA | USA | Posted: 3:17 AM on 06.23.10
->> I've been here in South Africa covering the cup. Frankly, it is loud, by now I'm used to it, no ear plugs. Feels part of the awesome atmosphere that is the World Cup.
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Radu Rosca, Photographer
Tirgu Mures | MS | Romania | Posted: 4:46 AM on 06.23.10
->> http://ultras.sportlocal.ro/vuvuzela-free-zone.html

now THAT's awesome atmosphere! :p
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Jamey Price, Photographer, Assistant
Charlotte | NC | USA | Posted: 1:36 PM on 06.23.10
->> Marcio, be careful. Before I left, Cape Town's newspaper warned of permanent hearing loss due to high decibel levels to spectators not wearing ear protection.

Permanent Hearing loss begins @ 80 decibels
Chainsaw - approx. 100 decibels
Vuvuzela approx. 127 decibels
F1 car - approx. 135-140 decibels
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Rick Yeatts, Photographer
Dallas | TX | USA | Posted: 3:23 PM on 06.23.10
->> FYI when shooting football (soccer) - Anyone who holds a baby up for a photo take the photo. They watch the lens, they know if you faking it. Anyone who insist that you take their photo take their photo. If you try to fake it you run the risk of getting hit with a baseball size spit ball, a half full water bottle of a big greasy basket of nachos (well thrown nachos can travel 25 -30 yards easy with a kill radius of five feet at point of impact). The more beer they drink the more creative they can get with thinks to smack you in the back with. It's no big deal it's just part of the assumed risk. Not that it acceptable it just happens. I have seen it happen south of the border as well as international matches stateside many times. For a while the MLS frowned on the horns (AKA - Beer Blasters). But later realized it was a major part of the atmosphere and the fans love them.

As Minton mentioned about the 12 year old fans - one got me with a windup fast pitch spit ball made for a game program right in the back of the head. The parents thought it was pretty funny too!
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Jack Howard, Photographer, Photo Editor
Central Jersey | NJ | USA | Posted: 12:40 PM on 06.25.10
->> Anyone catch the new Vuvuzela setting on Youtube videos?

Click on the soccer ball icon to experience it everywhere:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOuNKcZ5kzk
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Nic Coury, Photographer
Monterey | CA | | Posted: 12:48 PM on 06.25.10
->> Keep soccer out of the vuvuzela concerts!
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Tom Suarez, Photographer
Austin | texas | USA | Posted: 3:02 PM on 06.25.10
->> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37923704/ns/world_news-europe
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