Story   Photographer   Editor   Student/Intern   Assistant   Job/Item

SportsShooter.com: The Online Resource for Sports Photography

Contents:
 Front Page
 Member Index
 Latest Headlines
 Special Features
 'Fun Pix'
 Message Board
 Educate Yourself
 Equipment Profiles
 Bookshelf
 my.SportsShooter
 Classified Ads
 Workshop
Contests:
 Monthly Clip Contest
 Annual Contest
 Rules/Info
Newsletter:
 Current Issue
 Back Issues
Members:
 Members Area
 "The Guide"
 Join
About Us:
 About SportsShooter
 Contact Us
 Terms & Conditions


Sign in:
Members log in here with your user name and password to access the your admin page and other special features.

Name:



Password:







||
SportsShooter.com: Member Message Board

Screaming fast card reader
Jesse Beals, Photographer
Tracyton | WA | USA | Posted: 3:11 AM on 05.11.10
->> I am in major need of upgrading my card readers for my laptop. Is there a model that stands out above the rest? I have been using lexar card readers for the past couple of years, but am finding that the 4 gig cards take way to long to download these days.

Nothing worse then coming in at halftime of a game with 4 lexar 4gig pro series cards and having to wait 40 minutes for them to downlowed my Mark IIN files.
 This post is:  Informative (0) | Funny (0) | Huh? (0) | Off Topic (0) | Inappropriate (0) |   Definitions

Patrick Fallon, Student/Intern, Photographer
Columbia | MO | USA | Posted: 3:38 AM on 05.11.10
->> Jesse,

What kind of reader are you currently using? Also, are you sure you have enough space on your hard drive? 40min seems awfully slow.
 This post is:  Informative (0) | Funny (0) | Huh? (0) | Off Topic (0) | Inappropriate (0) |   Definitions

Eugene P. Tanner, Photographer, Photo Editor
Honolulu | HI | USA | Posted: 3:39 AM on 05.11.10
->> If your laptop has an ExpressCard slot, try a Lexar Professional ExpressCard CompactFlash Reader. I believe ExpressCard CompactFlash Readers are the fastest card readers.
 This post is:  Informative (0) | Funny (0) | Huh? (0) | Off Topic (0) | Inappropriate (0) |   Definitions

Wally Nell, Photographer
CAIRO | EG | EGYPT | Posted: 6:00 AM on 05.11.10
->> Are you on PC or Mac? Not sure if this is an issue or not. Even if you only have USB2, your download speeds should be very high. Of course it also depends on which cards you use. If you are using cards with higher speeds, it would download faster.
On my previous laptop (PC), I had a Firewire 800 port. However I used a PCMCI (sp?) card and it was like lightning; 2 or 3 minutes for 4gb. With the Firewire 800 reader I had (Sandisk), it was also in the region of 3 minutes. I now have a PC laptop where I do not have Firewire 800, only an Express Card. That also is very quick. When I download using the USB2 connection, 4gb takes about 4 minutes.
So I am not sure why yours would take that long. Perhaps check the cards you are using, or make sure you have enough space on your hard drive.
I almost sounds like you are using USB, but it is not USB2, just USB.
 This post is:  Informative (0) | Funny (0) | Huh? (0) | Off Topic (0) | Inappropriate (0) |   Definitions

Wally Nell, Photographer
CAIRO | EG | EGYPT | Posted: 6:01 AM on 05.11.10
->> Sheesh, I meant to say:
It almost sounds like you are using USB, but it is not USB2, just USB.
 This post is:  Informative (0) | Funny (0) | Huh? (0) | Off Topic (0) | Inappropriate (0) |   Definitions

Mark Peters, Photographer
Highland | IL | USA | Posted: 7:49 AM on 05.11.10
->> I have a SIIG expresscard/54, which works for me. PCIe bus with transfer speeds over 30mb/s. I'm using Sandisk Extreme IV and Extreme cards so I could get some improvement going over 30mb/s. As is, I get around 2mb/minute. If I plug in an old UltraII card, the time more than doubles.

If I were to buy today, I would consider one of the ones below.

The Lexar Pro expresscard reader fits 54 or 34mm slots and is rated at 133mb/s. The downside (to me) is that it does not mount flush - it sticks out almost an inch. The fastest speeds require the high end, fast cards. ~$45.
http://www.lexar.com/readers/pro_eccf.html

The Sonnet ProDual allows you to insert two cards at once. Also claims 133mb/s and sticks out about an inch. ~$85.
http://www.sonnettech.com/product/produalcfadapterexpress34.html
 This post is:  Informative (0) | Funny (0) | Huh? (0) | Off Topic (0) | Inappropriate (0) |   Definitions

Tim Vizer, Photographer
Belleville | IL | USA | Posted: 10:39 AM on 05.11.10
->> I use Lexar 300X UDMA 4GB CF cards, with the matching Lexar card reader hooked to my MBP via FW 800 (actually have two readers, as Photo Mechanic allows multiple card ingesting simultaneously). The cards and reader all take advantage of UDMA (Ultra Direct Memory Access) protocols, and short of using the ExpressCard slot, are just about the fastest setup available IMHO.

http://www.lexar.com/digfilm/cf_udma.html for more info.

My MBP, with SL OS, has 4GB RAM and even shooting in RAW, I can download both cards in three to four minutes for editing with PM.

40 minutes is way, way too long, you have something else going on there, maybe system-related? I'd check every single step of your ingest workflow, looking for ways to shave time -- maybe tweak settings to speed things up?

Good Luck!

Tim
 This post is:  Informative (0) | Funny (0) | Huh? (0) | Off Topic (0) | Inappropriate (0) |   Definitions

Jana C, Photographer
Ottawa | ON | Canada | Posted: 11:01 AM on 05.11.10
->> Here is the link on Rob Galbraith that looks at card speeds and card reader speeds (It's continually updated). Your results will depend on fast your cards are and how fast your reader is. Which ever is the slowest will be what limits your max speed.

http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/multi_page.asp?cid=7-6191-6217
 This post is:  Informative (0) | Funny (0) | Huh? (0) | Off Topic (0) | Inappropriate (0) |   Definitions

Shaun Sartin, Photographer, Photo Editor
Glenview | IL | | Posted: 11:13 AM on 05.11.10
->> Jesse,

I'm going to tackle this from a slightly different angle. I have two SanDisk ImageMate All-in-One USB 2.0 Reader/Writer.

When I say I have two, it's in part because I have had two fail. First you should have at least one back-up reader incase of failure. That said, I'm not totally thrilled with the reliability of these readers and the process through SanDisk to get an RMA for return/replacement is a total PITA. The first time, it took more than two weeks to get approval. This for a $30-40 device, when the next unit failed, I sent a pdf of the receipt and all the information and they still kept asking me for proof of purchase. You can walk into an Apple store and get an iPhone replaced with less hassle.

In conclusion, I'd stay away from SanDisk readers for both the reliability issues as well as the customer support pitfalls. My next readers will be Lexar.

Good luck, Shaun
 This post is:  Informative (0) | Funny (0) | Huh? (0) | Off Topic (0) | Inappropriate (0) |   Definitions

Jesse Beals, Photographer
Tracyton | WA | USA | Posted: 8:50 PM on 05.11.10
->> I use a Lexarmedia USB 2.0 Multi-Card Reader. My laptop has a 250 gig harddrive so space is not an issue. I use lexar pro cards and sandisk pro cards.
 This post is:  Informative (0) | Funny (0) | Huh? (0) | Off Topic (0) | Inappropriate (0) |   Definitions

Chuck Liddy, Photographer
Durham | NC | USA | Posted: 9:46 PM on 05.11.10
->> Forty minutes? Something is seriously wrong with your setup. Are all four of the cards full? If they are, after one half, you might want to stop hammering down on that motor drive.
 This post is:  Informative (1) | Funny (1) | Huh? (0) | Off Topic (0) | Inappropriate (0) |   Definitions

Nic Coury, Photographer
Monterey | CA | | Posted: 10:01 PM on 05.11.10
->> I'm using this one:

http://www.lexar.com/readers/pro_udma_dualslot.html

Stupid fast and has both CF/SD, which is nice.

Run about $40.
 This post is:  Informative (0) | Funny (0) | Huh? (0) | Off Topic (0) | Inappropriate (0) |   Definitions

Stew Milne, Photographer
Providence | RI | USA | Posted: 8:38 AM on 05.12.10
->> So which is faster, the Lexar Pro expresscard reader or the Lexar FW800 reader?

I currently use the dual slot Lexar FW400 CF reader and it's fairly fast. Takes about 3 minutes for a 4 GB card to ingest.

-sM
 This post is:  Informative (0) | Funny (0) | Huh? (0) | Off Topic (0) | Inappropriate (0) |   Definitions

Joe Morahan, Photographer
Denver | Co | USA | Posted: 10:45 AM on 05.12.10
->> http://www.hoodmanusa.com/products.asp?dept=1009

Hoodman makes a killer card reader....42mb per sec.
 This post is:  Informative (0) | Funny (0) | Huh? (0) | Off Topic (0) | Inappropriate (0) |   Definitions

Chuck Steenburgh, Photographer
Lexington | VA | USA | Posted: 6:09 AM on 05.13.10
->> Lot of variables here...

If you've got a Mac with FW ports, get a FW800 reader. They're all the same, so just get the cheapest one. Lexar, SanDisk, Hoodman all use the same controller. Of course, you'll only get the highest speeds if you are using USB cards. Lexar and SanDisk "Pro" aren't cards. Could be any number of different types from that description. See
http://sportsphotoguy.com/photo-finish-firewire-800-readers/

Comparable in speed are the UDMA-capable (note: UDMA is critical here) ExpressCard readers. Your machine needs an ExpressCard 34 or ExpressCard 54 port. See
http://sportsphotoguy.com/card-trek-the-next-generation/

If you have the older CardBus style PCMCIA slot, you might be able to find one of these somewhere:
http://sportsphotoguy.com/delkin-cardbus-32-udma-we-dont-need-no-stinkin-fi.../

Finally, if all you have is a USB port, try a USB UDMA reader. Speeds vary slightly; see:
http://sportsphotoguy.com/fastest-usb-compactflash-udma-reader-update/

Again, a disclaimer: you'll need UDMA CF cards to get the speed advantage in all of these devices. I suspect that could be your problem if you're using cards like the Lexar 133x and SanDisk Ultra IIs.
 This post is:  Informative (1) | Funny (0) | Huh? (0) | Off Topic (0) | Inappropriate (0) |   Definitions

Chuck Steenburgh, Photographer
Lexington | VA | USA | Posted: 10:33 AM on 05.13.10
->> Should be "you'll only get the highest speeds if you are using UDMA cards" in the first part of my response...not "USB cards."
 This post is:  Informative (0) | Funny (0) | Huh? (0) | Off Topic (0) | Inappropriate (0) |   Definitions

Add your comments...
If you'd like to add your comments to this thread, use this form. You need to be an active (paying) member of SportsShooter.com in order to post messages to the system.

NOTE: If you would like to report a problem you've found within the SportsShooter.com website, please let us know via the 'Contact Us' form, which alerts us immediately. It is not guaranteed that a member of the staff will see your message board post.
Thread Title: Screaming fast card reader
Thread Started By: Jesse Beals
Message:
Member Login:
Password:




Return to -->
Message Board Main Index
Everything you could ever want for photos. (go ahead click) ::..