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Stupid Questions asked to me at NIT
David Saffran, Photographer
Staten Island | NY | USA | Posted: 11:56 PM on 04.02.10
->> Hey All, I never start a thread, but I felt I had to after this past week shooting the NIT Semis & Finals at Madison Square Garden.

These were just 4 of the questions I was asked over the two days by other photographers shooting. I will not mention any names.

Here we go:
#1 - Who is Getty and he is a really busy guy, he shoots everything.

#2 - Wow, I think I messed up, my 5.6 lens is not good enough to shoot in here. Is there anyone I can speak to, so they can turn more lights on or re-aim them towards the basket. It might help me a little.

#3 - This is the best seat I have ever had at a basketball game. If I make 50.00 from this game, that would be great. See cause I all ready have a full time job so that 50.00 would be a BONUS.

#4 - Hey, I see you are sitting in the spot marked MSG. Isnt that what they put in Chinese Food. It made me laugh, when I answered to him, Madison Square Garden.
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Jeff Barrie, Photographer
Indianapolis | IN | USA | Posted: 12:11 AM on 04.03.10
->> David, I think I have run into a few of those guys on the sidelines of some HS sporting events
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Daniel Berman, Student/Intern, Photographer
Seattle | WA | US | Posted: 12:19 AM on 04.03.10
->> David,

I was talking to a friend of mine (age 20) a while back about trying to get clients to pay my invoices on-time for my freelance work.

He looked confused so I asked him what's up?

"If it's freelance why would they pay you?"

-and scene-
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Erik Markov, Photographer
Kokomo | IN | | Posted: 12:36 AM on 04.03.10
->> I've always wanted someone to ask me who lance was and why he should be freed. I don't think I'd be able to keep a straight face, I'm sure there is someone who doesn't understand the concept.
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Thomas Ciszek, Photographer
Edison | NJ | USA | Posted: 9:20 AM on 04.03.10
->> David...
# 2 on your list is the best... Maybe next year we will be there more than one night.. All the best..

Tom
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Richard Wolowicz, Photographer
Brossard | QC | Canada | Posted: 10:13 AM on 04.03.10
->> I get this one more than I care to think about:

"What TV channel do you work for ?"
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Chuck Liddy, Photographer
Durham | NC | USA | Posted: 11:04 AM on 04.03.10
->> Well, it, after all is the NIT......Not Invited Tournament.
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Anantachai Brown, Photographer
Jacksonville | FL | | Posted: 11:14 AM on 04.03.10
->> i thought they were legitimate question and comments.


:)
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Michael Granse, Photographer
Urbana | IL | USA | Posted: 12:00 PM on 04.03.10
->> Getty is a busy guy, and so is that Albert Peterson, Adam Parker, Alan Pettigrew, or whatever the name of the guy whose initials are A.P.

THAT guy gets a LOT of work!
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Mike Anzaldi, Photographer
Oak Park | IL | USA | Posted: 1:58 PM on 04.03.10
->> richard-

that's great! i get that one everyday of the year also...(what news channel are you?)
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John Howley, Photographer
Circleville | OH | USA | Posted: 2:30 PM on 04.03.10
->> So did he get the lights turned up or not?
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Jason Joseph, Photographer
Dublin | OH | USA | Posted: 2:51 PM on 04.03.10
->> Were any of the people who were asking these "questions" by chance the winners of Scott Kelby's most recent "Shoot Like A Pro" contest?
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Nic Coury, Photographer
Monterey | CA | | Posted: 3:45 PM on 04.03.10
->> I'm a young guy, 25, and I was shooting golf at Pebble Beach in February for the Pro Am and I and all the other pros are waiting under the ropes at one of the holes, and one spectator leans over and goes "Those are some nice toys you guys all have."

I replied with, "Tools, not toys."

He goes, "Riiiiight."
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Juliann Tallino, Photographer
Seattle | WA | USA | Posted: 5:52 PM on 04.03.10
->> Whenever I get the TV question (what channel? is this going to be on TV? etc) I tell them I'm shooting for radio. They just look at me and nod like that's a reasonable answer. :)
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Melissa Wade, Photographer
Boston | MA | USA | Posted: 6:40 PM on 04.03.10
->> I got asked the "tv question" over the weekend and when I said I was stills, the person pointed out that tv stations have websites w/ galleries now.
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Michael Ip, Photographer
New York | NY | USA | Posted: 6:46 PM on 04.03.10
->> Next time you get asked what TV station you're working for tell them The Cartoon Network
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Ryan M. Kelly, Student/Intern, Photographer
Newport News | VA | USA | Posted: 9:51 PM on 04.03.10
->> Or the Playboy Channel!

A modern variation on "I read it for the articles"... "I watch it for the sports action photography."
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David Bailey, Photographer
Flower Mound | TX | USA | Posted: 11:05 PM on 04.03.10
->> Uggh! I really try to be nice but this weekend I was shooting motocross (event photography) and had someone ask me to help with her settings. My thoguht was why are you on the track?

It cost me a lot of money to be there and I get really tired of GWC out there selling their images for cost.

I try to be nice and helpful but it is getting harder and harder.
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Michael Fischer, Photographer
Spencer | Ia | USA | Posted: 11:12 PM on 04.03.10
->> David, there's nothing wrong with saying "with all due respect, No" if the GWC is really competition.

Ask if they want to intern for free.
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David Bailey, Photographer
Flower Mound | TX | USA | Posted: 11:47 PM on 04.03.10
->> Michael,

That's what I should do. I guess I've been too nice. I remember asking stupid questions and want to return the favor but when they get in the way of making $ I guess I need to be all business.

I like the idea of the intern proposition if I knew they could actually take good photos. I don't want anyone to carry equipment, it just slows me down. :-)
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Tom Knier, Photographer
Lancaster | PA | USA | Posted: 1:00 AM on 04.04.10
->> I'm actually a TV shooter- and am routinely asked what paper I work for...
So it really goes both ways.
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Nina Zhito, Photographer
bay area | CA | | Posted: 12:10 PM on 04.04.10
->> Tom: what's a "paper"? is that like paperview or something?
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Jason Myers, Photographer
West Palm Beach | FL | | Posted: 12:48 PM on 04.04.10
->> My Dad used to tell me..."Son, there are no stupid questions...just stupid people."
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Shawn Lynch, Photographer
New York | New York | USA | Posted: 1:11 PM on 04.04.10
->> The tv thing will probably only become more common (and less of a stupid question) when all DSLRs start incorporating video!
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Michael Fischer, Photographer
Spencer | Ia | USA | Posted: 1:12 PM on 04.04.10
->> David, when it comes to competition, IF they really are competition, then it has to be take no prisoners.

Of course, getting them to commit to free is a way to return the favor for them giving stuff away for free, or close to it.


That doesn't mean you can't mentor. Most people, when given the chance, will say no to the offer. It would become work if they say yes. If they say yes, you work to educate them on the business side of the business so they don't give it away.

I don't know why this society has a issue with valuing the work others do. It permeates so much, abd is a big part of the problem.
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Mark Loundy, Photo Editor
San Jose | CA | USA | Posted: 3:18 PM on 04.04.10
->> TV stations are using stills, "still" cameras are shooting video and radio stations are using both still images and video.

The questions have gotten un-stupidized.

--mark
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Shaun Ward, Photographer
Perth | Tayside | Scotland | Posted: 3:39 PM on 04.04.10
->> Reading threads like this make it comforting to know I am not the most stupid person on this earth or come to think about it the most smug.
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Alan Look, Photographer
Bloomington/Normal | IL | United States | Posted: 5:21 PM on 04.04.10
->> Ah, then you get some good ones...

At the D3 Final Four, one young man (maybe 10 years old) sitting behind me in the stands leaned forward and asked me "Is this going to be in the newspaper?"

I just grinned and answered, lots of them and on the TV too.

He replied " no big deal there!"

Made the whole tournament for me.
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Jeff Stanton, Photographer
Indiana | IN | USA | Posted: 11:42 PM on 04.04.10
->> Yeah, my favorite one is: Can I get that camera at Walmart?
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Josh Thompson, Photographer
Ontario | California | USA | Posted: 11:58 PM on 04.04.10
->> I was apporached by a fan carrying a point and shoot at yesterday's LA Dodgers/Angels game who told me that my camera (Nikon D3, with a 400 2.8 attached) was going to be in a museum one day because his camera had 20x zoom and shot HD Video.

He was so proud that he didn't have to spend $10k on equipment, but just $99 to get the same quality shots I was getting.

I didn't want to burst his bubble, so I just said "Wow, that is cool."
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Rene Mireles, Photographer
Holland | MI | USA | Posted: 9:03 AM on 04.08.10
->> "Next time you get asked what TV station you're working for tell them The Cartoon Network"

Used this one all the time on the sidelines,

I usually say either Nick Jr or Cartoon Network.


Also just last week was shooting on the sides lines of our local college team and had a guy come up to me to try to chat, so I did a little bit, and he finally worked up the courage to ask me what settings I was using, I told him I just put my camera on P Mode, Im pretty sure he did the same thing as he walked away lol.
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David Manning, Photographer
Athens | GA | | Posted: 9:29 AM on 04.08.10
->> I think a lot of these people are just curious and want to have a conversation and find out more about what we do... but havent a clue how to strike up a conversation properly.

I had a conversation with a former college football player & asking him how he was dealing with the spotlight and he simply told me that he nice to everybody.

I've tried to take that to heart when working these sporting events. (Although the drunken Florida fan yelling about my Phillies hat 2 days after WFC08, that required a Chase Utley quote as a response.)
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Daniel Berman, Student/Intern, Photographer
Seattle | WA | US | Posted: 1:18 PM on 04.08.10
->> A few years ago when I was very new to photography and newspaper/editorial shooting, I went up to a lot of shooters in the area as we would run into each other, and pick their brains.

I think it was a mutual respect issue between me and those other local established newspaper and agency shooters. I didn't go up to them when they had the camera to their eye, or it was late in the 4th quarter of a close game, or five seconds before our three songs at a concert...as I have been chatted up before.

Like Mr. Manning, I try and be helpful if I can. I noticed the mom shooting next to me at a noon softball game was shooting on iso 1600 and shutter priority. I told her she didn't need to be up so high, and at f/22...And then told me she likes everything sharp. You can only do so much.

Ever since I assisted Robert Seale five years ago, his quote of "be nice to everyone you meet, you never know if you'll need them to be nice to you" has been a bit of a personal mantra.

Daniel
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Kyle Nosal, Photo Editor, Photographer
New Windsor | MD | USA | Posted: 1:44 PM on 04.08.10
->> Then of course you have the question:

"Wow, that's a big lens. How far can you see with that?"

After a while, I started answering "all the way to the other side of the field."

Got mixed reactions after that.

Kyle
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Chuck Steenburgh, Photographer
Lexington | VA | USA | Posted: 7:42 PM on 04.08.10
->> Stupid AND insulting: "I bet you can get some really good photos with that camera/lens."

Kyle - my stock response to that one is 'as far as you can, just everything looks bigger.' Then I'll go on to explain that it really doesn't magnify all that much, it's big because it needs to gather more light. That generally convinces them they are in over their heads and they go on their merry way.

Daniel - that's true within reason. If someone approaches asking for advice or wanting to compare technique or equipment, I don't have a problem with that. In fact, I love to 'talk shop.' It's the "arrogantly ignorant" that I think most of us are talking about here.

I guess I don't understand why some people feel compelled to say SOMETHING every time they see another person, even if they have absolutely nothing to say other than "did you get any good pictures." Obviously some genetic trait I (thankfully) did not inherit.
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Brian Westerholt, Photographer
Kannapolis | NC | USA | Posted: 11:08 PM on 04.08.10
->> I was at a minor league baseball game in Greensboro, NC a couple of years ago. I had my 400/2.8 lens and someone said "I'll bet you can see Pluto with that thing!" Without missing a beat I replied "Only when I am at Disney World".
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Dave Prelosky, Photographer
Lower Burrell | Pa | US | Posted: 11:19 PM on 04.08.10
->> Tuesday, and remembering I work in a city called Butler - Is the high school still playing? Where is Duke HS?
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Stew Milne, Photographer
Providence | RI | USA | Posted: 12:15 AM on 04.09.10
->> The answer to the stupid question "how far can you see with that big lens?"

Uranus!

-sM
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Jesse Beals, Photographer
Tracyton | WA | USA | Posted: 1:51 AM on 04.10.10
->> You gotta love those weekend warriors. I can't wait for the day when I can go to their job and work for free, ask stupid questions and disrespect their work environment while not having a clue of what I am doing wrong.
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Sam Morris, Photographer
Henderson (Las Vegas) | NV | USA | Posted: 3:34 AM on 04.10.10
->> Disrespect their work environment? Really? They are not a random photographer walking off the street and into a business and mucking around. They have been invited by the people that control the sandbox. You may not like it, it may be a pain, but if you have a problem with it I suggest you take it up with the SID or PR. And then get laughed at by them. Damn, it's a fact of life, get used to it.

And I don't know what the big deal is with non-photographers asking questions. Can you tell me the difference between a chop saw, a contractors saw, a miter saw, a compound miter saw and a table saw? If I were a carpenter, should I make fun of you if you don't know how wide the kerf is on a certain blade, or wonder why you are using a 24 tooth blade to cut stock instead of an 80 tooth blade?

They are just people who are interested and they probably know more than you do about the field they work in. At the very least, which is what I do if I'm grumpy, when they say something like, "That must be heavy," I'll give a little smile and tell them it is much heavier at the end of the day.

I know some of the posts are just giving their witty responses to questions. And that's fine. But is it so hard to explain to someone simply that "This lens is so big because it needs more glass to let the light in in a low light situation."? At least that way you are passing on a little knowledge.

Rant over.
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Sam Morris, Photographer
Henderson (Las Vegas) | NV | USA | Posted: 3:36 AM on 04.10.10
->> Oh, and to David, the OP, your post was actually funny.
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Donald Montague, Photographer
Orlando | FL | | Posted: 3:08 PM on 04.11.10
->> i was asked my setting at a high school football game earlier this year, when i said i was shooting ISO 5,000 the mom just said her camera didn't do that. i said sorry and when back to shooting.
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John Korduner, Photographer
Baton Rouge | LA | United States | Posted: 8:22 PM on 04.11.10
->> I can recall some unsolicited embarrassing and offensive comments directed at me when I started attending collegiate events. Consequently, I purposefully began asking the pros stupid questions to see how disdained a guy with a Canon Rebel paired with a 70-200 on a monopod really was.

I regret my decision because 95% of the photographers went above and beyond to assist me. But threads like this remind me why I wanted to lash out.
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