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Aperture versus Lightroom
Chris Covatta, Photographer
Dripping Springs | TX | USA | Posted: 9:14 AM on 11.03.09
->> Which program to you think is better: Aperture or Lightroom?
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Darren Whitley, Photographer
Maryville | MO | USA | Posted: 9:25 AM on 11.03.09
->> Lightroom. It's not a proprietary application, which means once you learn it, it doesn't matter what type of computer you use. And Lightroom appears to be evolving to suit our needs better.

Just my opinion, but I did hear Gregory Heisler comment that he prefers Lightroom as well. Apple was courting him to be an Aperture user but he found Lightroom was a more natural fit.

Top annoyance about Lightroom... unique shortcut keys that don't tie into ACR. I'd like to see Adobe change ACR to match so I could stop confusing which keys for white balance.
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Derek Montgomery, Photographer
Duluth | MN | USA | Posted: 9:41 AM on 11.03.09
->> Chris,

I asked the same question not too long ago here...

http://www.sportsshooter.com/message_display.html?tid=33732

Here is what I have found so far. I decided to go with Lightroom and it has been an easy choice for me. It integrates seamlessly with the Adobe suite of image-editing applications and if you have grown familiar with Adobe's Camera Raw, you will find all of the same features and more within Lightroom.

I bought the Scott Kelby Lightroom book (
http://tinyurl.com/y9qyc8r) and that has helped me immensely in the early stages. The keywording features are great and have been effective thus far.

I don't use it much for run-of-the-day assignments like a random soccer game or a portrait, but I do use it for more intensive events like an engagement session or a wedding or a commercial job. When I need to be super quick, Photo Mechanic is still a faster image browser in my opinion, but in those cases where you need to apply the same edit to hundreds of photos, Lightroom was easier for me to grasp than Aperture.
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Gerry Maceda, Photographer
La Quinta | CA | | Posted: 10:45 AM on 11.03.09
->> I find it easy to adjust horizons with LR's cropping tool. I also like LR's feature on syncing IPTC/metadata when processing a number of photos, I just wish they add FTP capability on the next version.
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Jamey Price, Student/Intern, Photographer
Charlotte | NC | USA | Posted: 10:51 AM on 11.03.09
->> I personally use Lightroom 2. I love the workflow and while it's features may not be as deep as photoshop...it is more then capable for my needs.
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N. Scott Trimble, Photographer
Lake Oswego | OR | USA | Posted: 12:10 PM on 11.03.09
->> With Apple's persnickety lack of updating software on a timely basis (Final Cut, others) and there bigger emphasis on music, I would go Lightroom. I can just see down the road Apple handing off Aperture to another developer because they cant fit the time in development. Plus, with a company that wants to cater to the college students designing glossy screens over matte, then I would rather put my bank into Adobe, that garners the bulk of its production line to those in image based work.
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Simon Keitch, Photographer
Plymouth | Devon | UK | Posted: 2:21 PM on 11.03.09
->> It's an old review but check out Michael Clarke's comparison here: http://digitalmedia.oreilly.com/2007/03/05/lightroom-vs-aperture.html

Michael's conclusion was that they're basically the same but Lightroom is faster; also there have been reports of random dodgy RAW conversions.

I've used Lightroom for all RAW import, basic editing and export for the past couple of years after getting frustrated with Capture NX; I've looked into alternatives such as Aperture and Capture One but ultimately I don't believe there's anything better.
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David Meyer, Photographer
Orlando | FL | USA | Posted: 2:51 PM on 11.03.09
->> I like Aperture's interface much better, but believe Lightroom's feature set is far more advanced. For example, Lightroom's adjustment brush is a great feature and the program integrates more fluidly into the CS workflow (panoramas, etc.).
Aperture does have some advantages. Aside from my preference for the Aperture interface, soft-proofing is big as is the album/book creation module and it's OS X integration.
The development status of each is also an issue. LR3 is already out in beta:

http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/lightroom3/

Aperture development has been relatively stagnant, although I don't believe that Apple will let it die on the vine. There's been talk lately of an imminent Aperture release after a someone spotted a how-to book about the next gen product on Amazon:

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/09/10/23/book_listing_implies_apple_to...
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Ian L. Sitren, Photographer
Palm Springs | CA | USA | Posted: 5:01 PM on 11.03.09
->> I like features in both, especially the full screen display in Aperture. But for best image quality for Canon files I continue to say that Canon DPP is the best.

So in turn for Phase One files I use Capture One and for Leaf files, Leaf. I would suspect the same would carry through for Nikon etc.

For me it is about the image quality as compared to the more streamlined workflow.
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Tim Vizer, Photographer
Belleville | IL | USA | Posted: 5:52 PM on 11.03.09
->> Also have to go with Lightroom, which is now available FREE in Beta for Lightroom 3. Check this out for more:

http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/lightroom3/

And, I believe I read that if you already have LR 1 or 2, you can move those catalogs over to 3 whenever it comes out (I think Spring or Summer 2010, but nothing official yet).
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Mike Doran, Photographer
Petaluma | CA | U.S.A. | Posted: 6:01 PM on 11.03.09
->> Lightroom 2 and now that I have been using Lightroom 3 beta I am equaly impressed with the fact that Adobe has listened to our requests.
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Darren White, Photographer
Brisbane | QLD | Australia | Posted: 7:14 PM on 11.03.09
->> By the way, there is a FTP function in LR

Just google it, one example:

http://blogs.oreilly.com/lightroom/2008/01/ftp-for-you-and-me.html

Ive used it to transmit onsite, works fine.
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Gerry Maceda, Photographer
La Quinta | CA | | Posted: 8:01 PM on 11.03.09
->> ->> I find it easy to adjust horizons with LR's cropping tool. I also like LR's feature on syncing IPTC/metadata when processing a number of photos, I just wish they add FTP capability on the next version.

Thanks Darren! I guess I didn't really dig deep. I will give it a try.

http://blogs.oreilly.com/lightroom/2008/01/ftp-for-you-and-me.html
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Thomas Boyd, Photographer
Portland | OR | USA | Posted: 12:39 AM on 11.04.09
->> I use Aperture and love it. I use it for everything from deadline sports, to projects, to archiving, weddings, presentations, scanning, book making and basically everything I do photographically.

It's integrated so well with all the Apple software I use including my iPhone, I can't imagine why a Mac user would use Lightroom.

Obviously, if you're one of those hapless photogs using Windows, then you deserve Lightroom:) What choice do you have?
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Steven E. Frischling, Photographer
102 Yards From The Beach | CT | | Posted: 2:03 AM on 11.04.09
->> Personally, even with shooting JPEG, I prefer Aperture. I find it more intuitive, the interface more user friendly, and I can use it to design pages and albums.
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Darren White, Photographer
Brisbane | QLD | Australia | Posted: 6:35 AM on 11.04.09
->> I think they are both good choices. It's good that LR seems to be getting more R&D at the mo. At the end of the day if you learn one tool and can make it sing for you that's what counts as we probably go nowhere near using all of the capabilities of any program.
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Kevin Seale, Photographer
Crawfordsville | IN | United States | Posted: 9:02 AM on 11.04.09
->> I have used Aperture for a little over 3 years now and really like it. It has done everything I have needed and find it very easy to do lots of things in batch.

However, over the past year as my library continues to grow I am finding that it spends more time in an application not responding mode and that it happens very frequently for no apparent reason which becomes VERY frustrating.

I have spent many hours searching forums looking for a solution without much success. If I can't find a solution soon I am strongly considering moving to a different application. Replacing my mouse from breaking it by slamming it on the desk in frustration is getting costly.
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Thomas Boyd, Photographer
Portland | OR | USA | Posted: 9:57 PM on 11.04.09
->> Kevin: Sometimes it helps to rebuild the library.

Option + Command and launch Aperture by double clicking on the application icon.

More here:
http://aperturetricks.wordpress.com/2006/07/10/aperture-trick-54-library-re.../

Also, if your library gets super big, you can have more than one library. I separate my libraries by year. I usually rack up about 100k images through the course of the year and this works good for me because I enter a lot of contests and this keeps things tidy for me.
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