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Anyone shot for "Success In Soccer" magazine?
Tim Vizer, Photographer, Photo Editor
Belleville | IL | USA | Posted: 12:40 PM on 09.29.09
->> I just got an email from "Success in Soccer" magazine, wanting to know if I would be interested in doing any of the following for them:

- Providing freelance sports photography services
- Offering special promotions/incentives to soccer clubs, associations and tournament organizers
- Supplying stock photography for print, online or mixed media usage
- Being included in our print, PDF and online directory of Sports Photographers
- Serving as a judge in an upcoming amateur photography contest

Anyone had any experience with this magazine? Thanks!
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Todd Spoth, Photographer, Student/Intern
Houston | TX | USA | Posted: 12:47 PM on 09.29.09
->> i got that email today. i think its in my junk/delete folder. it'll stay there.
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Tim Vizer, Photographer, Photo Editor
Belleville | IL | USA | Posted: 12:51 PM on 09.29.09
->> Todd, why? Bad experience with them? I've never heard of them before, checked the webpage, seems legit, but I'm just doing fact-finding before I reply to them...Thanks.
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Richard McEnery, Photographer
Sammamish | WA | USA | Posted: 6:20 PM on 09.29.09
->> I got the same email and have the same questions. It looks like they have been around for at least a couple of years, just judging by the back issues list.

Anyone....Bueller...???
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Paul Alesse, Photographer
Centereach | NY | USA | Posted: 9:00 PM on 09.29.09
->> I got an email as well.
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Geoffrey Bolte, Photographer, Assistant
Spencer/Worcester | MA | USA | Posted: 9:22 PM on 09.29.09
->> Same here I asked for more information, seeing where it goes from here.
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Tim Vizer, Photographer, Photo Editor
Belleville | IL | USA | Posted: 9:54 AM on 09.30.09
->> I replied and here's what I was told via email. It all seems proper and so I'll wait to see what else he sends my way. Thanks for the input gents! Tim
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Thank you for your reply and interest in Success in Soccer magazine. First, let me take a few moments to provide you with additional information about our magazine.

About Success in Soccer:

· Bi-monthly print magazine (full-color)

· In publication for 12 years

· Subscription rate: $30/year

· 7,500 paid subscribers with a pass-along readership of 2+ (readership of 20,000+)

· Primarily a coaching resource with emphasis on skills development, tactical training, strength and conditioning, speed and agility training, sports psychology and nutrition

· Other editorial components include interviews, club profiles, buyers guides, etc.

· Distribution is mainly in the United States, but we have subscribers throughout Canada, Europe and Australia

· Subscribers consist of soccer coaches, club officials, association executives, tournament directors, players, parents and athletic trainers

· Markets served range from recreational and high school to college and professional

· Content covers all age groups (children, youth, adult), genders and skill levels

· Website (www.successinsoccer.com) receives more than 5,000 unique visitors a month

· 10,000+ subscribers to monthly e-newsletter

· Link to sample issue:
http://www.mydigitalpublication.com/publication?i=7938 (please note that our more recent issues incorporate many more photographs)

· Partners include the German Soccer Federation, US Youth Soccer and National Soccer Coaches Association of America (just to name a few)

· SiS also produces a series of instructional books and DVDs

· SiS publishes a series of PDF-based (print on demand) publications and directories



Typical Stock Photography Requirements:

· Magazine cover

· PDF directory cover and section covers

· Buyers guides

· House advertisements and sales/marketing collateral



Typical Freelance Assignments:

· Special events such as college showcases and major tournaments

· Training camps and soccer academies

· Team and individual exercises and drills

· Sequence photography (e.g., kicking the ball, diving/rolling, throw-ins, etc.)

· Interviews

· Product photography



I will send you a separate email covering the other initiatives I mentioned in my original e-mail.



Best regards,



John
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Paul Alesse, Photographer
Centereach | NY | USA | Posted: 6:00 PM on 09.30.09
->> DELETE. Serious... Delete. So far, it has been all form letters. I have seen these before. They do a mass mailing to anyone that's on the web with sports in the METADATA, hoping to get some buzz out on their "intiatives". My best guess... they don't even know that you are a photographer. Once you start an email dialogue with them, they try to get you on board with either ad space or some other form of marketing that costs YOU money. If they really were interested in you as a photographer, they would have at least looked at your work by now and/or told you how to send them your work and would have written a more personalized email establishing a relationship.

How do I know this is true? Because I suck as a photographer and they sent me an email too.
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Tim Vizer, Photographer, Photo Editor
Belleville | IL | USA | Posted: 6:23 PM on 09.30.09
->> OKAY, thanks Paul....

Now that I reflect on Paul's comments, the emails I got are labeled/named/called "Sports Photography Inquiry 1" and after I emailed a reply, the second one is called (you guessed it) "Sports Photography Inquiry 2" so maybe this is some kind of mass emailing.

I still can't figure out what the scam (if there is one) could be, but I certainly don't have time to play around with an organization like Paul describes....

Time to hit the "delete" button on this one methinks!!!

I'm going to also pass this by one of my buddies who shoots tons of soccer for ISI and see if he's heard of them, and if he has, I'll post one more comment on this topic.

Thanks for everyone's input!
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Tim Vizer, Photographer, Photo Editor
Belleville | IL | USA | Posted: 12:43 AM on 10.01.09
->> My friend who shoots for ISI says he's nervous about this venture, for all the reasons we've touched on in this thread. He remembers the magazine being primarily for coaches and soccer specialists, which limits the readership.

Also, he suspects that they're sending out mass emails as a means of fishing for a photographer to do free work, or work in return for a credit line in their publication.

As has been discussed numerous times here on this website, "free" and "credit line" work does not pay the bills, so that makes the decision easy for me --- DELETE!

Thanks for everyone's input....
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Stanley Leary, Photographer
Roswell | GA | USA | Posted: 10:39 PM on 10.01.09
->> I talked to the guy in Toronto. It appears they are trying to put together a magazine, which for the most part niche is soccer.

If they can get the audience in an area, then they hope to then find the advertisers who are interested in this group to pay for the privilege of their audience.

They are approaching photographers (it appears to me) to trade out. They will introduce you to the group they need photographed and pay you a sum, but the catch appears to be that since they are introducing you to potential customers you will then be willing to work with them for this customer.

I never got to discussing prices, because I could see it is sort of a pyramid scheme in my opinion.

While it could turn out to work for some folks in certain markets, I don't see it working everywhere. The person who will benefit the most would be someone who is OK shooter and has difficult time finding clients who want their services and wants to shoot soccer related subjects.

They also want to offer to handle the sales for your work if you choose.

Basically they don't have enough money to pay people it appears and if they can get enough interested people to help them in a market then they will go after the market.

It appears to me to have a lot of risks with little rewards.
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