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I am jazzed about this camera!
Jim Slosiarek, Photographer
Cedar Rapids | IA | USA | Posted: 10:12 AM on 06.16.09
->> Not since the introduction of the Canon EOS-1D have I been this excited about a camera.

I'm just hoping Olympus/Panasonic comes out with a decent array of lenses for this new system. I'd be happy with a 28mm equivalent (24mm would be better) with an F2. For starters anyway.

The 21st century convention jewelry.


http://www.dpreview.com/news/0906/09061601olympusep1.asp
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Mark Scheuern, Photographer
Grand Blanc | MI | USA | Posted: 11:37 AM on 06.16.09
->> See this, too:
http://tinyurl.com/koaq2w

This is the sort of thing I've been waiting for and I'm really tempted.
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Robert Hanashiro, Photographer
Los Angeles | CA | | Posted: 12:46 PM on 06.16.09
->> WOW!
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Robert Longhitano, Photographer
North Wales | PA | USA | Posted: 12:52 PM on 06.16.09
->> Nice! wish they would offer it in a black body
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Edmund Fountain, Photographer
Tampa | FL | United States | Posted: 1:17 PM on 06.16.09
->> SERIOUSLY, it looks like my ship finally came in.

Tried the Leica M8, what a waste... returned it after about 24 hours. Tried the G9, not much better. Considered an LX-3, but man... this thing is a digital dead ringer for the 35 Ti. I think I'll get on board if the image quality is there.

Still wish it had a built-in optical finder though.
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Jeff Mills, Photographer, Photo Editor
Columbus | OH | USA | Posted: 2:34 PM on 06.16.09
->> Its definatly got points for style, but for roughly the same money, the Panasonic M 4/3 G1 I think delivers a bit more bang for the buck as it has a very useable EVF and also the flip out articulating LCD display. I just figure if I'm going to have to compose using a LCD, might as well make that LCD be able to do a few nice tricks like flip out for low level or overhead shooting.

Ed, I did see an accessory optical finder for the 17mm f1.7 lens.

I do have to admit the though of a nice retro styled compact with a f1.7mm 35mm eqiv lens and hopefully high ISO performance that should be head and shoulders above the G10, LX3 is pretty slick.
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Clark Brooks, Photo Editor, Photographer
Urbana | IL | USA | Posted: 2:55 PM on 06.16.09
->> Hmmmm.... guess just what moved up the list for my walk-around body. An underwater housing and this would be heaven.
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Jeff Mills, Photographer, Photo Editor
Columbus | OH | USA | Posted: 3:17 PM on 06.16.09
->> Wonder of the new Panasonic 7-14mm would be able to mount as well.

A 14-24mm equiv along with a fast 35mm prime and a standard 28-90mm would certainly make for a nice little travel combo where the whole kit would weight less and be more compact than my nikon 14-24mm lens alone
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Mark Scheuern, Photographer
Grand Blanc | MI | USA | Posted: 3:40 PM on 06.16.09
->> Looks like it does, Jeff. The dpreview E-P1 image sample gallery (http://www.dpreview.com/previews/olympusep1/page13.asp) has some shots using the 7-14. All the 4/3 lenses can be used with an adapter (and maintain full functionality, according to the article).
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Jim Slosiarek, Photographer
Cedar Rapids | IA | USA | Posted: 3:41 PM on 06.16.09
->> Yeah Jeff,
The panny 7-14 will work. Micro 4/3 is micro 4/3 whether it's a Panny or an Olympus. There are some pics shot with it in one of the galleries on that site.

Stylistically, the G1 holds no interest. I'm just put off by the fake SLR hump. If I want an SLR-looking camera I'll reach for my 20D.

Having shot with the G10 numerous times, I've kinda embraced composing off the lcd. Not my favorite thing to do but I've made it work.
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Mark Scheuern, Photographer
Grand Blanc | MI | USA | Posted: 3:43 PM on 06.16.09
->> Ah, I didn't even realize the 7-14 is a Micro 4/3 and not a 4/3. Even better--no adapter needed.
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Guy Rogers, Photographer
Dallas | TX | USA | Posted: 5:45 PM on 06.16.09
->> I knew I kept those OM lenses for a reason. I'm curious how well manual focus will work on an LCD.
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Allen Murabayashi, Photographer
New York | NY | USA | Posted: 6:23 PM on 06.16.09
->> i hear ya guy! too bad they can't build a split circle LCD viewfinder like i had on my OM-10 and OM-4.

definitely looking forward to trying this camera out.
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Steve Ueckert, Photographer
Houston | TX | | Posted: 9:32 PM on 06.16.09
->> This is a cool concept and a definite alternate consideration to the G10 philosophy.

While a 17mm / 2.8 might offer the same field of view as a 35mm lens in a full frame 35mm format (24mm x 36mm), there is no way to get a limited depth of field such as can be done with a an actual 35mm lens used with a full frame format at F-2.8, or even better, f-2.0.

Unfortunately, unless some form of an eye level viewfinder is made available to accompany the zoom, or quality viewfinders such as the Voigtlander or Leica brite line VF's are compatible with the primes, then this camera will ultimately be handled like most point and shoots, held at arm's length.

Other than rare occasions of using waist level finders for 120 film cameras or composing on the ground glass for a view camera, I am natively comfortable with having a camera at my face for composing an image. I think I would still prefer my G10 to this camera.
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Tim Snow, Photographer
Montreal | Qc | Canada | Posted: 9:38 PM on 06.16.09
->> I still use my Pen-EE half frame and love it...this may be really fun!
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Jack Howard, Photographer, Photo Editor
Central Jersey | NJ | USA | Posted: 7:17 AM on 06.17.09
->> I spent the day with the Olympus E-P1 yesterday. Here's a quick look:

http://www.adorama.com/alc/blogarticle/11680

I've still got it in my hands, so let me know if there's any additional questions...
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Curtis Clegg, Photographer
Sycamore | IL | USA | Posted: 7:52 AM on 06.17.09
->> Jack I'm curious about one thing that I can't quite tell from the photos: Can you zoom manually on the lenses, or is zoom done electronically like virtually all other P&S cameras? I wish more P&S cameras offered the fast, silent, and precise zoom that older cameras like the Minolta DiMAGE 7.

Thanks for the review!
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Curtis Clegg, Photographer
Sycamore | IL | USA | Posted: 8:08 AM on 06.17.09
->> P.S. Jack your review mentions a "nice, wide zoom barrel" but it's not clear if the zoom is manual.

One more thing: How quiet is the camera? Is there a mechanical shutter that clicks like on the Panasonic G1, or is the body virtually silent?
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Jack Howard, Photographer, Photo Editor
Central Jersey | NJ | USA | Posted: 8:40 AM on 06.17.09
->> Curtis, yes, the zoom is manual.

To an email question I rec'd. I'll usually be sticking to ISO 800 and under. Very high ISO images do appear to have a fair bit of noise.

To hear a clip of a burst from the E-P1, check out #2 on my page:
http://www.sportsshooter.com/jackhoward
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Matt Kartozian, Photographer
Scottsdale | AZ | USA | Posted: 1:21 PM on 06.18.09
->> Edgadget China did a hands on demo yesterday.

http://tinyurl.com/lky8k4
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Dave Amorde, Photographer
Lake Forest | CA | USA | Posted: 6:55 PM on 06.18.09
->> Not quite something I'd embrace for myself, but the perfect system for my kids who are catching the bug. They all want their own equipment (and this is relatively cheap,) and they're all a part of the phone-camera generation, so LCD composing is all they know. This isn't something I'd buy for myself, but it would make a nice christmas gift (you reading, dad?)
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Robert Hanashiro, Photographer
Los Angeles | CA | | Posted: 4:06 PM on 06.21.09
->> I agree ... on further inspection and consideration, a camera like this for me needs to be WIDE. And 35mm is not wide enough for me.

But if I get a chance to try it ... well, we'll see...

What I'd love is something like my Contax G2 with the 21mm (a real 21mm).

The Canon G10 will do for now...
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Chuck Liddy, Photographer
Durham | NC | USA | Posted: 4:19 PM on 06.21.09
->> I agree bert. I'll stick with my G9. it doesn't have a shutter noise at all, which is some situations is a big plus.
and the size factor is a design function I like since it fits in a coat pocket or small belt pouch. and as someone said earlier I like being able to compose the photo through the viewfinder....I guess I truly don't get the excitement about this camera, but that's just me.
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Jon Cunningham, Photographer
Lisle | IL | USA | Posted: 12:28 AM on 06.22.09
->> No optical viewfinder is a deal breaker for me. A real plus for the Canons.
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Steve Ueckert, Photographer
Houston | TX | | Posted: 7:56 AM on 06.23.09
->> "What I'd love is something like my Contax G2 with the 21mm (a real 21mm)."

It's not AF, but the Leica M8.2 with the Voigtlander 15/4.5 has an effective FOV of a 20mm lens. The updated version of this lens is RF coupled and accepts 52mm filters, which helps when used on the M8.2.

And wider still is the Voigtlander 12mm / 5.6 which sees as a rectilinear 16mm on the Leica M8 or as an 18mm on the Epson R-D1(s, x).
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Jason Orth, Photographer, Photo Editor
Lincoln | NE | USA | Posted: 10:11 AM on 06.23.09
->> Panasonic announced a 7-14mm f4 (14-28 equiv) lens at PMA this year. Don't think it's out yet.
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Robert Hanashiro, Photographer
Los Angeles | CA | | Posted: 1:04 PM on 06.23.09
->> It's a f/3.5 - f/5.6.
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Lee Weissman, Photographer
XXXXX | NY | USA | Posted: 2:56 PM on 06.23.09
->> I think you need to look at the long term of this camera. I am sure all of the lenses for it are not out. Unlike Four Thirds, Micro Four Thirds does not provide space for a mirror and a pentaprism, allowing smaller bodies to be designed (including a smaller lens mount, incompatible with Four Third lens mount). The standard supports use of Four Thirds lenses on Micro Four Thirds camera bodies using an adapter, but Micro Four Thirds lenses cannot be used on Four Thirds bodies. I own the Sigma DP1, and the Canon G9. The DP1 is great for the wide stuff, but is restrictive in what you can do. And while I like the G9, and thought it originally could be the answer, in my estimation falls short in several areas. But then again this is the fun of using different gear, finding out what works or not. Kind of the quest for the Holy Grail!!!
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Jason Orth, Photographer, Photo Editor
Lincoln | NE | USA | Posted: 4:27 PM on 06.23.09
->> Hmm. The Panasonic press release has it as a fixed f/4, but it might as well be a f-million since it isn't out. And it certainly isn't small, or cheap.
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