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The 10 major newspapers that will either fold or go digital
Kevin Clifford, Photographer
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Reno | NV | United States | Posted: 2:36 PM on 03.09.09 |
| ->> Thanks for the post David. I guess this is the beginning were lots of major newspapers (most of my favorites)will disappear, since the first major newspaper closed its doors last week. Once one goes others will most likely follow, which is a shame because the newspapers on that list have great staffs and produce great stories, photos and videos. |
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Chuck Liddy, Photographer
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Durham | NC | USA | Posted: 2:39 PM on 03.09.09 |
| ->> ...and people call me "the grim reaper"? |
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Bastian Ehl, Photographer
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Magdeburg | _ | Germany | Posted: 2:45 PM on 03.09.09 |
| ->> We already went through this in Germany and all over Europe aswell in the recent years. All of the major german papers survived - but were forced to make extensive cuts to their newsroom staff. |
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Eric Canha, Photographer
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Brockton | MA | United States | Posted: 2:49 PM on 03.09.09 |
->> Chuck only if they're polite ;)
I'm really sorry to see the Boston Globe listed there. I'd be sad to see the the Boston Herald go, but the Globe??? |
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G.J. McCarthy, Photographer
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Dallas | TX | USA21 | Posted: 4:10 PM on 03.09.09 |
->> "The parent of The Dallas Morning News, Belo, is arguably a stronger company that the Star Telegram's parent, McClatchy."
Well, maybe some of these poor copy desk folks who will be out of work can go sling grammar for Mr. McIntyre ....
And on a serious note, good luck to all my colleagues out there in newspaperland. It's gonna be another terrible year.
[Colon En Dash Open Parenthesis]
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Debra L Rothenberg, Photographer
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New York | NY | USA | Posted: 5:11 PM on 03.09.09 |
->> I will be SO SO sad if this happens to the NY Daily News.
Not only is it the paper I shoot (mostly concerts) for, it is THE paper I have ALWAYS wanted to shoot for, and the best group of people I have ever met in my life. |
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Hal Smith, Photographer
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Sedalia | MO | USA | Posted: 6:06 PM on 03.09.09 |
->> The newspaper business is in trouble, but going to web only isn't going to help.
Example: If The Miami Herald were to go web only, it would have a limited site based on a hyper local model with reporting staff of less than quarter of what would be needed to cover a city of the size and diversity of Miami.
The closure of the paper would leave a vast vacuum in the community that no blogger would be prepared to fill.
The Herald has huge reputation for it's regional and international reporting that I hope it's owners appreciate. |
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Steve Ueckert, Photographer
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Houston | TX | | Posted: 6:18 PM on 03.09.09 |
->> The list is longer: Seattle P-I, San Diego Union Trib & Austin American Statesman are all for sale and thus on the bubble as well.
And I believe that the A.H. Belo Corp is trying to unload its papers, including the Dallas Morning News. I haven't heard any talk of the DMN closing and I'm not trying to start any rumors. But last December the Rocky was put up for sale and now its gone.
I fear 2009 may be worse than 2008 for printed newspapers. |
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Jamie Roper, Photographer
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Portland | OR | United States | Posted: 7:25 PM on 03.09.09 |
| ->> any bets on The NYT folding by early summer...? |
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Gene Blevins, Photographer
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Woodland Hills | CA | USA | Posted: 7:41 PM on 03.09.09 |
->> Some update on the McClatchy cuts...
The layoffs will start before April. Several of McClatchy's 30 daily newspapers, including The Sacramento Bee and The Kansas City (Mo.) Star, already have decided how many workers will be shown the door. |
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Steve Ueckert, Photographer
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Houston | TX | | Posted: 10:09 PM on 03.09.09 |
->> With respect to my above post, I feel I should clarify that I have not heard any substantive report that the Dallas Morning News or the other A.H. Belo papers are for sale.
I likely misremembered or misinterpreted reports from about a year ago that the parent Belo Corp was spinning off its newspapers as the A.H. Belo Corp.
--Steve |
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Michael Fischer, Photographer
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Spencer | Ia | USA | Posted: 10:37 PM on 03.09.09 |
| ->> The Times sold its building for $225M and leased part of it back; that will greatly increase its chances of having enough money by, I believe May, to make a payment. They still are trying to unload their share of ownership in the Boston Red Sox. That value is estimated to be somewhere in the $140M ballpark. |
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Gene Blevins, Photographer
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Woodland Hills | CA | USA | Posted: 6:30 PM on 03.10.09 |
->> Well if this is any indication on how many it will take to run a news paper that goes on line ...were all screwed ??? ...look at the last paragraph update !!!!
Seatte Post-Intelligencer Tells Employees Their Jobs Will End
Hearst's Seattle Post-Intelligencer has a story about the paper's future saying... Well, very little. The newspaper could close, go online only, or continue operating under a new owner. We knew that already. Then there's this bombshell:
"The paper's roughly 170 employees have been officially notified that their jobs will end between March 18 and April 1."
Sounds like "close" may be the answer.
UPDATE: Poynter has a page here tracking developments about the P-I. The "online only" option is still very much alive, it seems – and would employ about 15 people including one photographer |
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Steve Ueckert, Photographer
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Houston | TX | | Posted: 8:38 PM on 03.10.09 |
| ->> I have a feeling that if the P-I hangs on as a web only product with a staff of 15 that it will contain very little original content, other than local adds. |
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Steve Ueckert, Photographer
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Houston | TX | | Posted: 8:40 PM on 03.10.09 |
->> Add 1--
...and blogs, hearst is huge on blogs. |
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Andy Rogers, Photographer
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Seattle | WA | USA | Posted: 3:32 PM on 03.11.09 |
| ->> We're counting the hours at this point, and it's maddening. The P-I will probably publish its final edition this week. Almost all of us will be out on the street, and only a shell of a web site will live on. With the limited staff they're planning to keep, I cannot conceive that pi.com will be the place I go for news about Seattle...but maybe they'll surprise me. |
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Jamie Roper, Photographer
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Portland | OR | United States | Posted: 3:59 PM on 03.11.09 |
->> I got an "inappropriate" for speculating on the New York Times...!? Are you shitting me?
If you're unfamiliar with what I'm referring to, you're not paying attention. |
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Mike Brice, Photographer
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Toledo | OH | USA | Posted: 4:43 PM on 03.11.09 |
->> Papers need to focus on local news, and drop the international and national budgets and sections.
Do you ever hear of the free weeklies going under? No. It is because they focus on the local news.
Stop covering pro and college games with staffers and use wire - both writers and photographers. Recently the Olympics come to mind. Why so many staffers sent to the Olympics?
That is a lot of money spent covering something that could have been covered by the wire, while staff focused on local news that sells papers locally. Papers were out-reported by the web before the staffers even filed their stories or photos.
Send your writers and photographers to high school games, and readership will improve. People want to see things local to them.
It is not sexy, but it is a solid plan that could help some papers survive.
Of course, this doesn't help those papers that are led by short-sighted corporations demanding 18 percent returns. But it could help those willing to run a paper with a 10 percent profit.
I find it odd that staff photographers turn their nose up at weddings and local sports - always looking to do the glamorous assignments until they get laid off. Then it is their turn to try their hand at weddings and local sports. |
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Karl Stolleis, Photo Editor, Photographer
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Philadelphia | PA | | Posted: 4:59 PM on 03.11.09 |
->> Mike,
There is one problem with that line of thought (and one that has been voiced many times over) and one the PI is about to discover - local coverage takes people and you have to pay those people. You cut your staff to make the red ink go away and your local coverage suffers. If you can figure out how to reverse that you should be a newspaper publisher.
2009 is only gonna get worse. |
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Mike Brice, Photographer
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Toledo | OH | USA | Posted: 5:19 PM on 03.11.09 |
->> I guess what I am saying is the things that newspapers have been covering are not the things readers are interested in.
If a newspaper wants to survive, it has to stop covering high-cost, low-interest stories and start covering high-interest stories.
Last season, my local high school football team had a great season. Number of times the daily paper covered it - once.
Number of times the local weekly covered it - at least 6 that I can remember.
Guess which paper is doing fine, and which paper is about to go through another round of layoffs. It was just reported that the local daily is to meet with the union about buyouts and voluntary layoffs before forced layoffs.
Whatever they have been doing isn't working - so why do they continue with the same editorial strategy? |
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