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Canon CPS
Rick Osentoski, Photographer
Martin | OH | United States | Posted: 9:06 AM on 03.04.09
->> Canon CPS is not accepting members.
https://estore.usa.canon.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/LogonForm?langId=-1&...
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David Harpe, Photographer
Louisville | KY | USA | Posted: 9:07 AM on 03.04.09
->> Rick,

I think that might have been a temporary thing. I was able to click through just fine:
https://estore.usa.canon.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CPSTermsAndCondition...
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Matthew Sauk, Photographer
Sandy | UT | United States | Posted: 9:58 AM on 03.04.09
->> Seems to be working, I just signed up for a membership.
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Brad Camp, Photographer
Bainbridge Island | wa | USA | Posted: 11:03 AM on 03.04.09
->> Also FYI,
In case you need the number and promts to get into the CPS phone tree:

Canon Pro Services
877 277 8122
1 for repairs
2 for membership info or renewals
3 for loan requests
4 for Technician Assistance
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Brad Camp, Photographer
Bainbridge Island | wa | USA | Posted: 11:06 AM on 03.04.09
->> Also--current members are extended (according to Frank at CPS) until the new program officially launches.
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Jason Ossey, Photographer, Student/Intern
Atlanta | GA | USA | Posted: 12:22 PM on 03.04.09
->> Any idea when the new system is going to be up?
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Juliann Tallino, Photographer, Photo Editor
Port Townsend/Seattle | WA | USA | Posted: 12:51 PM on 03.04.09
->> Website is working, I tried to register and got this message:
Disqualified for CPS membership

You do not have enough products registered to apply for CPS membership. However, you can still continue to update your product details once you have enough products to register.

I've been a CPS member since switching to Canon and now since my smaller primes and wide angle lenses are older and not listed, I don't qualify for CPS membership any longer. I'm a full time staff photo editor/photographer, I derive 100% of my income from photography, but I don't qualify. To qualify I would have to go out and buy a new lens from the "pro" list. I own 7 canon lenses but only two make their "pro" list. Wow, that sure gives me a warm fuzzy feeling towards Canon.
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Doug Thompson, Photographer
Floyd | VA | | Posted: 12:53 PM on 03.04.09
->> Seems to be up and running. I signed up, got my new member number back via email in about a minute. I'm holding on to my old CPS info just in case.

The email said materials should arrive in 3-5 days.

Interesting that all it takes to qualify under the new program is owning the right equipment.
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Stew Milne, Photographer
Providence | RI | USA | Posted: 1:06 PM on 03.04.09
->> Sad, very sad. They sure know how to drive people away from Canon and to Nikon.
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Nell Redmond, Photographer
Charlotte | NC | USA | Posted: 1:26 PM on 03.04.09
->> I'm in the same boat. My older lenses, which work fine, are not on the list. So I'm not welcome into the club, even though I've been shooting for over two decades, and using canon for the last 12 years. Oh well.
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Doug Thompson, Photographer
Floyd | VA | | Posted: 3:43 PM on 03.04.09
->> Somebody at Canon needs to deal with this issue. There is no reason why a working pro with older equipment should be denied the benefits of "professional" services because the only criteria is to own newer camera bodies and lenses. What about the young shooter just starting out with a used 1D MK I and older lenses?

I also noticed when going through the list that one of my favorite lenses (the 135mm F/2) is not on the list. I guess when I'm using that lens I'm not a pro.
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Matthew Sauk, Photographer
Sandy | UT | United States | Posted: 4:14 PM on 03.04.09
->> Doug,

I just looked at the list and I see that a 135 F2 is listed.

It is listed in the pro lens list and service list
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Yamil Sued, Photographer, Photo Editor
Peoria | AZ | USA | Posted: 4:17 PM on 03.04.09
->> Heck, I joined CPS in 1988!!

I guess that some if the Canon Bodies and lenses I like don't jive with their new requirements!!
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Mike Doran, Photographer
Petaluma | CA | U.S.A. | Posted: 4:20 PM on 03.04.09
->> What a joke this is, I have been a Canon shooter for over 20 years and was told that basically I am sol on being a CPS member because I do not have 2 bodies and a newer is 300. This is BS. I was told to write a letter and send it in as I am not the first person to complain about this.
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Yamil Sued, Photographer, Photo Editor
Peoria | AZ | USA | Posted: 4:29 PM on 03.04.09
->> Yes, sure, you ar ethe FIRST person to complain....

RIIIIIIGHT!!!

Like I said, I became a member in 1988 and guess what, some of the Lenses I like, are not on the list!!

So, I'm not a Pro!!
Go freaking Figure!!!

Nice Going CPS!!
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Jeff Martin, Photographer
wellington | OH | usa | Posted: 4:34 PM on 03.04.09
->> I guess having never filled out a warranty/registration card leaves me SOL.
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Doug Thompson, Photographer
Floyd | VA | | Posted: 4:52 PM on 03.04.09
->> Matthew Sauk wrote:

"I just looked at the list and I see that a 135 F2 is listed.

"It is listed in the pro lens list and service list."

Oops. I missed it when I went through the list. I had enough of their other "qualifying" lenses so I guess didn't look that hard. Sorry about that.

It still is disturbing that Canon is now defining a "pro" as someone who can afford their latest equipment and not as someone who does the job.
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Alan Look, Photographer
Bloomington | IL | United States | Posted: 4:54 PM on 03.04.09
->> try to tell my wife that I do this part-time v full-time...

no, I don't make 51% of my income from photography, but I have 22 years in with a corporation in an IT position. Hmmm, I guess if I stick around long enough most of my job will get off-shored and they it will be the non-professional less than 51% half :(

I bought my first Canon gear in 1976 - 33 years ago.

Life's first rule "life isn't fair". Life's rule #2 "see rule #1".

CPS - it was nice while it lasted.
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Al Goldis, Photographer
East Lansing | MI | USA | Posted: 5:12 PM on 03.04.09
->> It does seem a little arbitrary on what they have decided is qualifying equipment, both for CPS membership and repairs.

At first glance it looks like it's only newer lenses. But that's not always the case. The 15mm fisheye, 70-200/2.8 (non-IS) and a couple of the macros are ancient but still qualify.

Yet if you have a 400/2.8 Mark II or a 600/4 (non-IS) you're SOL. I know they can't stock parts forever, but if they still service a 50/2.5 macro, why not a $6000+ 400/2.8II or 600/4?

(And how is the 70-300/4.5-5.6 DO really a pro lens? So what if it's DO?)
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Francis Specker, Photographer
Riverside | CA | USA | Posted: 5:18 PM on 03.04.09
->> I think the point of the CPS membership is to get equipment fixed by Canon. Canon doesn't support older equipment, so it is not listed as qualified pro equipment. So if you don't meet the bar set by Canon, as far as equipment, it is not in your or Canon's interest to have a expedited service to fix it.

You can still use Canon for repairs, your equipment just doesn't get a special red bag for expedited service and the discount, which you are basically paying up front with a membership fee.

I think CPS is trying to get away from a free loaner service company and more into a service that rewards users that buy their professional equipment with expedited repair.

The hard part is that for years a CPS membership was free, now you might have to shell out $500-100 to get that same level of service.
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Yamil Sued, Photographer, Photo Editor
Peoria | AZ | USA | Posted: 6:25 PM on 03.04.09
->> Like Stew said, they are miking it easier and more atractive for shooters to move from Canon to Nikon!!
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Stew Milne, Photographer
Providence | RI | USA | Posted: 7:16 PM on 03.04.09
->> Seriously, if Canon doesn't come out with a DSLR soon that kicks Nikon's D3, then it's over. Watch the masses switch. And I'll probably join them. I've used the D3 and love it, but was waiting for Canon to come out with something better. From other threads on SS, it doesn't look like Canon is going to do this anytime soon. Add on the crazy requirements for CPS membership and we'll be seeing a lot more black lenses on the sidelines/baselines/photo wells. Nice going Canon!
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Jeff Brehm, Photographer, Photo Editor
Charlotte | NC | USA | Posted: 8:52 PM on 03.04.09
->> How many bonehead moves can one non-Wall Street company make and still stay in business?

First, the Mk III debacle. Then months go by and you still don't respond to a competitor's product that's kicking your butt and taking your market share. Now, when you should be doing everything you can to keep the few remaining customers you have, you do something else to alienate a big chunk of them -- incidentally, the ones who buy your most expensive products.

Is Canon based in Detroit?
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Yamil Sued, Photographer, Photo Editor
Peoria | AZ | USA | Posted: 10:26 PM on 03.04.09
->> Jeff, the way it looks, they Canon is taking most of their business tips from Detroit!! They can't seem to take a step without stepping on themselves!!
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Daniel Putz, Photographer
Jefferson | MD | USA | Posted: 11:26 PM on 03.04.09
->> I'll comment on a few things I've observed:

1) It's almost like all of you would like Canon to just go away tomorrow. So then we'd all have to switch to Nikon, and when they stumble (as all companies do, get over yourselves) the entire business would suffer from Camera Inbreeding. It's good for the tech and our business for the waxing and waning that goes on between Canon, Nikon, etc...

2) Now, we've been through the 'dont work for free' deal here before. How is Canon switching to a pay-for service a bad thing? Shouldn't you be paying for a service? Double-standard much?

3) I don't know about anyone else, but I can't just drop all of my Canon gear today, buy newer and more expensive Nikon equipment tomorrow...and be as productive as I am now. For this very reason, I won't switch. If you're name is Mr. Moneybags McGee, go for it, but the rest of us feeling the crunch aren't going to bother.
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Yamil Sued, Photographer, Photo Editor
Peoria | AZ | USA | Posted: 11:52 PM on 03.04.09
->> Daniel,

I think you misunderstood my post.

My problem is that I would no longer be eligible to be a CPS member, after 21 years since I first joined!! Suddenly, because of a specific style of lens, I'm no longer considered a Pro!! Now that makes me feel good!! Really good!! I don;t even qualify for the Free CPS!!

About payment, each person must decide for themselves if any of the pay CPS options are worth the $100 or $500!!

For me, if I'm not eligible for the Free CPS, I'm not even close for the "pay" CPS options.

BTW, the issue pf the Pay CPS is another story

I'm not paying $100 or $500 for what I was getting for free, a few lens caps, a book and a date book!!

Maybe The Pay CPS is what you need, that is why there's 3 versions of CPS, to each his own.

BTW, NPS "IS" Free!!
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April Tse, Photographer
Mountain View | Ca | | Posted: 1:32 AM on 03.05.09
->> I don’t necessary agree with the qualifications for the new version of CPS, but there are two things that I like.

If I understand correctly, the new CPS includes the following
1) Discount on repairs, even if you don’t hand over $$$
2) Quicker turn around than the normal guy with camera (2-5 days vs. 2 weeks)
3) A few free check and clean if you pay $$$
4) Loaner gear depending on level and availability

The old CPS only provided two things and nothing more (other than status symbol + bragging rights)
1) Fast track for repair service, usually fixed in 24 hours
2) Loaner gear if available

Did I remember things incorrectly? Did the old CPS provide more benefit?

CPS was designed for working pros and the repair of the gear. It doesn’t give you a press pass to the super bowl, it doesn’t make you a better photographer, it never provided you with the ability to purchase glass/bodies before the official launch date… Or, did it?????

And over time, we all know that canon will end the support of some lenses/body and will not stock the spare parts for those repairs.

Even if you don’t approve of the new admittance criteria, the CPS members now gain a discount on all repairs.
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Patrick Fallon, Student/Intern, Photographer
Columbia | MO | USA | Posted: 1:50 AM on 03.05.09
->> April,

1. We always got a discount. "CPS members now gain a discount on all repairs."
Is false. If you PAY, you get a slightly bigger discount...

2. We always got "Quicker turn around than the normal guy with camera (2-5 days vs. 2 weeks)" that is NOT NEW. We got it turned around in 24-48 hrs.

3. You could always walk into CPS in Irvine for a sensor cleaning [or a not quite as extensive clean and check], often done same day, for free... other little tweaks would also be done sometimes as well for free [weather sealing rings on lenses, etc.]

4. We got free loaner gear, only had to pay for return shipping and insurance.

So......

Oh and I got that CPS Book as well - for free when I joined before.
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April Tse, Photographer
Mountain View | Ca | | Posted: 2:23 AM on 03.05.09
->> Rick, please accept my apologies;I guess I remember incorrectly about the program.

I just don't remember any repair discount on the old version of the CPS; I only remember the loaner gear and a 24-48 hour repair return.

I believe with the "new" one, everyone, including the free one, gets a minimum of a 10% discount (or is it 20% --
http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/controller?act=MultiMiscPageAct&key=CPS_M...)

And since I don't live near the CPS centers, I never received the little free tweaks like sensor cleaning.

A few months ago, before the program changed, the canon rep gave a small talk on CPS to a local camera club and someone was kind enough to write up the notes and re-type the text on the form that the rep handed out to everyone in the room. And a month after that, canon decided to change the program.

http://bui4ever.com/cps-loan-program-faq/ -- the "old CPS"

I still don't necessary agree with the "new" version, the criteria for membership and really don't like the membership levels. I like the discount on repairs....
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April Tse, Photographer
Mountain View | Ca | | Posted: 2:24 AM on 03.05.09
->> Oops.. that should have been address to Patrick. Rick is the one that started the thread. I'm so sorry again.
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Jim Sykes, Photographer
Montgomery Village | Md | | Posted: 4:19 PM on 03.05.09
->> "The old CPS only provided two things and nothing more (other than status symbol + bragging rights)
1) Fast track for repair service, usually fixed in 24 hours
2) Loaner gear if available"

But in reality, does a pro really need much more than that? We did get a small discount, which was nice, but the entire reason I joined CPS to begin with was for the expedited repair work if I had something fail and for the loaner so that if it was going to take too long I could still do my job.

Thats all. I just wanted to be able to do my job, which I depend on to eat and pay rent. THAT is what CPS is and should be for. In order to do that, all I need is fast repair and loaners at times when it cant be fast. I big discount is nice, sure, but its a business expense and something to deal with. Also, I'm not having things repaired on a monthly basis. I was a member of CPS for years and only had things fixed a few times, so a big discount is not needed.

Just give us the basics Canon and provide it for us as a service for using your product. Thats all thats needed. Fancy programs that cost money and are essentially "buy ins" for whoever can afford the latest gear is not necessary.

The announcement of this program months ago was actually one of the last straws that prompted me to switch. Years worth of CPS telling me to learn how to properly use my MkIII instead of admitting a problem, the D3 coming out and spanking the MkIII and then CPS on top of it coming up with this program lead me away. Too bad really. I hope Canon gets their act together, I want the competition to remain so Nikon doesnt fall into the same complacency Canon has seemed to.
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Nell Redmond, Photographer
Charlotte | NC | USA | Posted: 4:56 PM on 03.05.09
->> In all my time as a freelancer, I've never ordered a loaner from Canon. (I have used their gear when they loan it out at the Coca-Cola 600 races.) What I need, and regularly used, was the quick repair turnaround. Whether or not Canon wants to call me a pro or not, I am a professional freelance photographer, and I need to get my gear repaired ASAP. Just like people with newer lenses.
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Dennis Wierzbicki, Photographer
Plainfield | IL | USA | Posted: 5:16 PM on 03.05.09
->> As an existing CPS member, some of whose older previously-pro equipment is no longer considered to be pro (at least enough to knock me out of qualifying) I concur with Stew, et al, that this is one more in a seemingly endless string of bonehead Marketing decisions made by Canon.

I can see applying these new qualifications to NEW applicants, but existing members with equipment who once qualified with gear that used to be pro-level should be grandfathered in. What's the purpose of CPS - to serve pro shooters, or to persuade photographers to abandon their old, perfectly workable and functioning equipment, to buy new stuff?
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Paul Morse, Photographer
Washington | DC | United States | Posted: 7:03 PM on 03.05.09
->> So if folks with older Canon gear switch to Nikon wouldn't they be buying brand new cameras and lenses?

I feel bad for the folks who have older gear that doesn't qualify but look at it this way, you must take great care of it so it's rare you need it repaired;) Just think of all the money you saved over the years!

Lighten up everyone! Be glad you get paid to take photos and don't work for the auto companies.
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Phil Hawkins, Photographer
Fresno | ca | usa | Posted: 7:06 PM on 03.05.09
->> The sign up form does not work. Filled it in and click "continue" and it just sits there. Made sure all the required stuff was filled out... nothing. Dead as a stump.

Err 99?
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Mike Anzaldi, Photographer
Oak Park | IL | USA | Posted: 12:29 AM on 03.06.09
->> fussy group. don't take my opinion as anything but, but...jeez. why again does canon owe us anything? i had all of my gear before i even knew what cps was. cps wasn't a selling point, and it wasn't included in the price of my stuff. while i may agree that a properly managed program could satisfy all of the very reasonable complaints voiced here, i think canon must disagree. i suspect they appreciate all of us as customers, but they probably appreciate those who update their equipment more often a bit more. as we have read, simply being a pro does not qualify you for the service, regardless of the programs name.

you just have to be a dude who buys stuff. it's not the neighborhood shop on the corner. they don't care how long you've been a canon user. it's a global mega company that lives and dies by the success of their CURRENT gear. canon could give a rats ass about your 15 year old primes. they are rewarding good customers. good customers buy the new stuff, often. further, canon knows nobody is switching to nikon because of their CPS policies. we could rant and rave all we want, and they could care less. remember that it's a program available to anyone who has a bunch of newish gear. you need not be a pro. i'm surprised that so many are surprised.
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Stew Milne, Photographer
Providence | RI | USA | Posted: 1:11 PM on 03.06.09
->> I hate this phrase "in these uncertain economic times", but I think it applies to this thread. Canon should be encouraging professional photographers to stick with Canon. Canon has already made blunders with the MKIII AF issues and how they handled it and now the CPS requirements. I would think as a loyal Canon customer, that Canon would want to keep me, maybe even reward me. Why, b/c I CAN take my business to another company that currently has a better product and quite possibly is treating their "pros" better.

I know in the past we didn't pay for CPS, and I'm not opposed to paying for it now, but as "pros" we are buying the more expensive gear (L series) over the average consumer and a think a little reward for that is not too much to call for. It's a good thing that we may have gear in our bag this is over ten years old. It means that Canon gear is well made and stands up to the test of time, use and abuse. If lenses only lasted for two years before they started to fall apart, we all would be hurting financially (well maybe not if they made them cheaper.)

This is about treating your customer base with the respect they deserve. We are advertising Canon's gear anytime we use it. And Canon/Nikon know this. That's why Canon used to run those ADS with all the gray lenses shooting a sporting event. I think as a little "kick back" for advertising that we professionals might get CPS for free.

I could go on and on, but I doubt Canon will change anything. This new CPS membership is purely driven by finances.

I've used CPS repair a handful of times and have been mostly pleased. Except for the fact that they couldn't get one of my IIn bodies to focus with all my gear. All my gear was in the hands of CPS three times in tow months. Makes it hard for me to do my job. Luckily, I was testing out a Nikon D3 and lenses at the time, so I had back up gear.
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Yamil Sued, Photographer, Photo Editor
Peoria | AZ | USA | Posted: 7:22 PM on 03.06.09
->> YOu want to hear something funny..

My Good buddy, a retired engineer, just joined CPS!!

Got accepted!!

Why???

He OWNS the right gear!!

How much of his income is derived from Photography?????


Guess to venture???

ZERO!!!

He's retired!! To him Retirement means that!! DO NOTHING!! and enjoy the fruits of his long years of work!!

Now, how does this make sense??

A working pro can't qualify because he has only two of the three lenses they (Qualify) but my buddy that has all the lenses and isn't a PRO, qualifies!!

This would be funny, if it wasn't so sad!!

Nice going Canon!!
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Jim Sykes, Photographer
Montgomery Village | Md | | Posted: 7:49 PM on 03.06.09
->> I havent run through the form since I'm no longer a Canon shooter, however, I have heard that they no longer are asking for anything to prove you're a pro, like the tear sheets, invoices or other items they used to ask for. I've also heard that all you have to do is SAY you're a pro and its good to go. I have even heard that the serial number entries for gear arent even verified. So all you have to do is SAY you on a 1DMkIII and put a number in and it OKs you.

How is that weeding out amateurs?

I dont have problem with them charging as much as them seeming to just let anyone in. Its not something we deserve, however, if they're going to offer PRO services, it should be for the pros.

Just my 2 cents. But my NPS card just showed in the mail today so I guess I shouldnt be worrying about it. I just feel bad for all my buddies that still are with Canon.
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Yamil Sued, Photographer, Photo Editor
Peoria | AZ | USA | Posted: 10:56 PM on 03.07.09
->> "How is that weeding out amateurs?"

It isn't!!

It's only allowing in folks that own lots of Canon Gear!!
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Jim Cowsert, Photographer
Grapevine | TX | USA | Posted: 9:48 PM on 03.09.09
->> Sent in 2 mkIIn's and a 24-70 to Irvine last Friday for cleaning and calibration. I registered under the new system and sent them in under my old CPS account and also included my new CPS account number on the repair form.
The cameras arrived at CPS today (Monday).
Got a call from Chris at CPS this evening and all three have been cleaned and calibrated under the old CPS for no charge, and will be back to me Tuesday (next day).
Not too shabby service with Canon.
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Yamil Sued, Photographer, Photo Editor
Peoria | AZ | USA | Posted: 12:56 PM on 03.10.09
->> I must say that Chris is the best!!

He's a great guy and he's the best thing that ever happened to Canon USA!!

Y
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Alvin Self, Photographer
Irving | TX | USA | Posted: 6:15 PM on 03.12.09
->> I filled out the new application last Friday and recieved my membership package today. I have been a CPS member for over many years and am happy with the services they provide.
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Mark Buckner, Photographer
Arnold (St. Louis) | MO | USA | Posted: 3:22 PM on 03.16.09
->> While I agree with many of the comments posted above, and am not here just to defend Canon, here is a little info...

1) My understanding is that the reason they have gone to paid membership in CPS is that all other Canon divisions around the world have always charged for it, but for some reason (maybe to compete with NPS?) it was free in North America. I am sure they knew they would take some flack for changing to a pay-to-play system. But, trade places with a shooter from Asia, Europe, etc. and you'd have been asking "Why do the NA shooters get CPS for free when I have to pay for it?" Consistent business practices are a must in the days of instant global communication.

2) Give them a bit of credit for flexibility. When the qualifications were first announced I wrote a lengthy e-mail regarding my use of the original 1D bodies due to 1/500th flash sync for my strobe-lit hockey work. Chris took that letter to a meeting, and along with requests from other similarly situated shooters, it was considered. Now, as of just a day or two ago, the 1D is a "qualifying" camera. So, they ARE listening. 1.4 converters and some other lenses have been added as well, I believe.

3) In looking at the $500 price tag on a Platinum membership, keep in mind that that includes FedEx both ways for repairs. Send in a 400/2.8 or a 600/4 for clean and check and you'll pay for more than half of that membership.

All that being said, the website is still a bit buggy. I went back in and added all of my 1D bodies, etc. and it still says I am "disqualified for membership" so I'll go back and try again in a few days.

Just my $.02
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Daniel Tunstall, Photographer
Pearland (Houston) | TX | USA | Posted: 10:29 PM on 03.16.09
->> I really do not understand why CPS does not recognize Sports Shooter membership! Geez it was tougher to get in here than just buying new equipment from their lists..
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Ian L. Sitren, Photographer
Palm Springs | CA | USA | Posted: 11:21 PM on 03.16.09
->> This is just increasingly annoying me. I have no problem with Canon charging for the membership. I have been a CPS member for a number of years and it is certainly worth it.

But for example, I really like shooting film and very inclined to go back to shooting with the Canon 1V which is what I used to shoot with. No longer professional? I am one of the most viewed bodybuilding photographers in the world. I shoot features for magazines, covers, advertising, art. If I shoot with a 5D and a 1V am I no longer a professional?

So let's take James Nachtwey as a case in point. Now I do not know if he is still shooting film but if you watch the documentary "War Photographer" you will see that he is also shooting the 1V. He also seems to be pretty much shooting with just two bodies and two lenses. I guess he would not be qualified either. Not a professional?

At least I am in the VIP program with MAC Group and Mamiya is working out to be my favorite camera. Maybe Nikon is next for me. Does the Nikon F6 qualify as a pro body for NPS?
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Mark Buffalo, Photographer
Lonoke | AR | USA | Posted: 12:26 AM on 03.17.09
->> I know this may fall on death ears but I've been a member of CPS for several years and now, I don't qualify. I was willing to pay, or just use the free CPS and not worry about the discounts. I consider myself to be a professional news/sports photographer and I have all my own equipment. I have one DSLR that qualifies even though I have 3 that I still use. I also have one L series lens even though CPS in the past, worked on my 28-105 3.5-4.5 lens. And, I have a 430EX flash...which isn't a pro flash.

Yeah, I guess Canon is trying to weed out the "non-professionals" but I feel like a lot of the other photographers. I've spent enough $$$$ on Canon gear that I should be treated like a professional. I just can't afford all the L series lenses and more than one 30D and above body. And it's funny like Ian said that a film camera isn't even considered a professional camera. It almost makes me want to look into Nikon and NPS but like I said earlier, I've invested way too much.

Mark
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Kent Nishimura, Student/Intern
Honolulu | HI | USA | Posted: 3:01 AM on 03.17.09
->> Hm...CPS keeps telling me that im disqualified.

I registered my 1Dmk2N, 1D, 16-35, 17-40, and 70-200. and then added them to my CPS thing.

i dont qualify they say...strange...
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Shelly Castellano, Photographer
Huntington Beach | CA | USA | Posted: 3:19 AM on 03.17.09
->> There are lots of local repair shops all over the place that would love to have your business and may even uphold your old CPS membership with 20% off. Pre-paying for gear that shouldn't break or as it was told to me "We have to pay for this loaner gear somehow" is not sitting well with me. I think the new CPS program is totally lame and will not be paying $500 to be part of their new "club" even though I more than qualify. My .02
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Ian L. Sitren, Photographer
Palm Springs | CA | USA | Posted: 8:43 PM on 03.17.09
->> This has been also been a conversation on the APA forum, many unhappy APA members. As a consequence APA has now stated that they are looking into the issue. That is good.
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