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50 TERABYTES of storage per month, 15¢. Seriously.
Adam Bird, Photographer
Grand Rapids | Mi | United States | Posted: 11:21 PM on 10.09.08
->> I've been using Amazon's S3 service for a while to store important photos offsite and securely. I dig photoshelter, great people, but Amazon's price, aimed mostly at businesses to run SQL servers and web apps is way way better. Well, it was.

It use to be 15¢ per gig per month, with about the same cost for the upload bandwith. Not bad, I just saved the important ones, and pay 50¢ per month on average.

I just got an email, and now it's 15¢ for the first 50 Terabytes. See for yourself.

http://aws.amazon.com/s3/#pricing

They will be the recipient of all of my photographs, all the archives. I figure with my bandwidth it'll take about a month to catch up, doing it mostly at night so that I can take the computer with me during the day. I'll still keep my Raid 1 NAS for redundancy, and the smaller portable high speed external drive for projects that don't fit on the laptop.

For the price, this is too good for me to pass up. And, the level of security appears to be quite high with a pretty agreeable TOS. If somebody finds a fly in the ointment, please do let me know.

Caution- this should not ever be your only backup, but it's a killer price.
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Tim Snow, Photographer
Montreal | Qc | Canada | Posted: 11:27 PM on 10.09.08
->> Uh, isn't it $0.15/GB for the first 50 TB's? Unless I read something wrong? Hope so, 'cause if this is really $0.15/tb, I'm gonna move to the States!
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Bob Ford, Photographer
Lehighton | Pa | USA | Posted: 11:31 PM on 10.09.08
->> Adam, it looks to me like it's still 15 cents per gig. It reads:

"$0.150 per GB – first 50 TB / month of storage used"
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Bruce Twitchell, Photographer
Coeur d'Alene | ID | USA | Posted: 11:31 PM on 10.09.08
->> Adam,
This is saying that it still is 15 cents per GB for the first 15TB. Plus, they charge 10 cents per GB for data transfer bringing the cost to 25 cents per GB (at least the fist month).

This is not 15 cents for 50TB of storage. I think that cheap of storage is still about 10 years off.
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Mike Brice, Photographer
Toledo | OH | USA | Posted: 11:37 PM on 10.09.08
->> Amazon is a great storage solution when you want to set it there for safe keeping, but it isn't the best if you want to access it or display it - unless you are a coder.

I am not, so PhotoShelter is a great archive, display, sales, delivery vehicle, etc...

I use S3 - mostly for backing up my personal photos and videos. I want them safe, but its not like I am need them in a format to display for clients.
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Ian L. Sitren, Photographer
Palm Springs | CA | USA | Posted: 11:44 PM on 10.09.08
->> They have a usage calculator on that link, I just tried it and it seems far from cheap.

And if you happen to need some personalized service and/or really fast, well...

I'll stay with PhotoShelter.
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Adam Bird, Photographer
Grand Rapids | Mi | United States | Posted: 8:55 AM on 10.10.08
->> And, thus, I sit down quietly.

I totally mis-read it, thank god I posted and was corrected.

Saved, yet again by sports shooter.

Thanks guys
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David Harpe, Photographer
Louisville | KY | USA | Posted: 9:27 AM on 10.10.08
->> Amazon isn't great for bulk storage. It's much more effective for high reliability cheap bandwidth. If you have a site with a lot of traffic and/or a lot of downloads, Amazon is great. But for photographers who need to store their archives somewhere, there are far better solutions out there.
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Grant Blankenship, Photographer
Macon | GA | USA | Posted: 10:36 AM on 10.10.08
->> I'm using and digging the $10 a month for 10 gigs at Photoshelter right now. What else do you suggest?
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Nic Summers, Photographer
Mount Prospect | IL | USA | Posted: 6:49 PM on 10.10.08
->> Seagate 1 Terabyte external for $159 at Costco or other discount sources.. fill it up, turn it off, put it away somewhere....
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Matthew Sauk, Photographer
Sandy | UT | United States | Posted: 6:59 PM on 10.10.08
->> I have the Seagate 1TB Pro version and it is so nice. Quite, fast and cool looking.

I also have the WD Book (whatever it is called) 1TB version. I like the Seagate version better.
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Ian L. Sitren, Photographer
Palm Springs | CA | USA | Posted: 8:17 PM on 10.10.08
->> The Seagate drives are nice, I certainly have a few. But they won't do you much good if your house burns down, you get flooded out or a tornado rips your belongings into 9 counties. Or if some nice burglar decides he needs backup too for his new cameras he is taking from that shelf in your closet.
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Nic Summers, Photographer
Mount Prospect | IL | USA | Posted: 9:27 PM on 10.10.08
->> Gee...if I "what if'd" about everything, I'd never get out of the morning, except if that tornado was coming and then the tornado would kill the burglar and the rain from the storm that produced the tornado would put out the fire. Not sure what to do about the flood.
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Ian L. Sitren, Photographer
Palm Springs | CA | USA | Posted: 9:52 PM on 10.10.08
->> This thread is going to go off track. But by way of example and then I am done...

The many photographers in Hurricane Katrina who lost everything and the many who have lost everything since in other floods and hurricanes. We have had quite a few.

The many photographers who lost everything in the major wildfires this year in California.

And a famous close call, Douglas Kirkland who had the original of his famous photo of the assassination of Bobby Kennedy behind his couch in the Hollywood Hills. After a major wildfire destroyed so very much, it was the couch that saved the photo from destruction and only singed it around the main image.

Those "what if's" are ever so real and do happen everyday.
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Greg Ferguson, Photographer
Scottsdale | Az | USA | Posted: 9:57 PM on 10.10.08
->> "
->> Gee...if I "what if'd" about everything, I'd never get out of the morning"

Pigging backing on Ian's comments...

A what-if scenario session is mandatory for any business owner who wants to survive any disaster, from fire and flood to theft of computers. Redundancy is not just having cameras and lenses and flashes and computers or having a backup, it's things like, can you get to them, will they work, in other words, can you continue operating when disaster happens?

Using a separate drive is fine IF you don't store it on-site and you periodically check to see the media is readable and that it hasn't dropped any bits.

But, having it off-site isn't good enough if it's in the same locality, especially one that is prone to having earthquakes, hurricanes, flooding or tornados, since they can wipe out neighborhoods. Physical distance makes a big difference as far as data-safety, but it also makes it really hard and slow to recover data you've lost, so you want it online. And that's starting to sound more and more like what PhotoShelter offers.

The PhotoShelter guys look at this from a corporate data-center mentality - what will keep data online - period.
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Mark Loundy, Photo Editor
San Jose | CA | USA | Posted: 10:19 PM on 10.10.08
->> Ian,

Are you sure you're referring to Douglas Kirkland? I'm aware of three photographers who photographed the RFK assassination, but Kirkland is not one of them.

--Mark
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Ian L. Sitren, Photographer
Palm Springs | CA | USA | Posted: 11:09 PM on 10.10.08
->> I misspoke, it was Bill Eppridge of course, I even have his book sitting right here on my desk. Thanks!
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Bob Ford, Photographer
Lehighton | Pa | USA | Posted: 11:03 PM on 10.11.08
->> Even if you don't want to consider natural disaster or some other catastrophic event, keep in mind that harddrives fail.

The famous quote in the data storage field is, "It's not IF you harddrive will fail, it WHEN."

So, if you're going to go the harddrive route you shouldn't plan on paying $159 for a 1 TB harddrive. Figure on at least $318 for two.
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