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new Leica M8.2
Erik Markov, Photographer
Kokomo | IN | | Posted: 9:58 AM on 09.15.08
->> saw on Adorama's site that they have a press release of the new M8.2 http://tinyurl.com/5o7xfe

In their own commentary before the release they have decided that the new snapshot mode for those that want the cool factor of Leica w/o learning how to use it should be named the "dentist mode."

Sorry if I offended any periodontists, orthodontists or regular old dentists with this post. :)
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Curtis Clegg, Photographer
Belvidere | IL | USA | Posted: 11:14 AM on 09.15.08
->> LOL, it's nice to hear that Jeff and the rest of the Adorama folks have a healthy sense of humor.

It reminds me of when B&H was selling a Canon 1200 f5.6 lens, and they noted in their product description "pack mule not included."
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Matt Cashore, Photographer
South Bend | IN | USA | Posted: 12:21 PM on 09.15.08
->> Buncha FAST new primes, and a couple of new point-n-shoots too!

Yowsa!

http://dpreview.com/
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Michael L. Palmieri, Photographer
Barnegat | NJ | USA | Posted: 1:54 PM on 09.15.08
->> Fast?!?! Wow! f/.95 -- Faster than f/1 ... that's amazing!
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Matt McLoone, Student/Intern, Photographer
Ventura | CA | United States | Posted: 2:51 PM on 09.15.08
->> super fast and only $8000. I really wanna see some sample shots.

Too bad the M8 is super noisy past 640iso...
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Jim Colburn, Photo Editor, Photographer
McAllen | TX | USA | Posted: 4:12 PM on 09.15.08
->> F/0.95?

Wow?

Amazing?

Only 47 years after Canon...

http://tinyurl.com/5gxy5y
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Jay Adeff, Photographer
Salinas | CA | USA | Posted: 4:49 PM on 09.15.08
->> Sounds like they are "anti-dentites".
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Mark Loundy, Photo Editor
San Jose | CA | USA | Posted: 5:02 PM on 09.15.08
->> Jim,

Leica had a f/0.95 lens back in the day too. This one isn't their first.

--Mark
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Bob Ford, Photographer
Lehighton | Pa | USA | Posted: 9:15 PM on 09.15.08
->> Maybe my memory is bad, or it could be my math, but I remember many years ago in Photo 101 learning that aperture = 1/f stop squared.

So, a 1.4 lens let in half of the available light when wide open. (1.4 x 1.4=1.96) so the aperture of a 1.4 lens lets in 1/1.96 or roughly half of the available light.

How can a lens (f 0.95) let in more than the amount of available light?
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Mark Scheuern, Photographer
Grand Blanc | MI | USA | Posted: 10:11 PM on 09.15.08
->> Bob,

The physical aperture size is the focal length divided by the f/stop. Successive f/stops let in twice as much light. E.g., an aperture of f/1.4 lets in twice as much light as f/2, f/1 twice as much as f/1.4, etc. The diameter goes as the square root of 2 so the area doubles and the number of photons that get in doubles. An f/0.95 lens isn't letting in more than the amount of available light but it's letting in a bit more than twice as much as an f/1.4 lens. (f/0.7 would be the next full stop after f/1).
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Mark Scheuern, Photographer
Grand Blanc | MI | USA | Posted: 10:14 PM on 09.15.08
->> Just to clarify, by physical aperture size I meant diameter.
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Steve Ueckert, Photographer
Houston | TX | USA | Posted: 10:45 PM on 09.15.08
->> Bob--

The F-stop is the reciprocal of ratio of the diameter of the lens opening relative to the focal length.

This is true for actual focal length lenses, or long focus formulas, not telephoto designs.

Thus a F-2.0 lens has an actual diaphragm diameter of 1/2.0 of 50mm, or 25mm for a 50mm lens.

Likewise, a 50mm lens that is F-1.0 has a diaphragm opening of 50mm.

A lens that is measured as being faster (actually larger) than F-1.0, such as F-0.95 has a diaphragm that is wider in measurement than the focal length measurement. For a 50mm lens this would be a diaphragm of ~ 55mm in diameter.

--Steve
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Jim Colburn, Photo Editor, Photographer
McAllen | TX | USA | Posted: 11:14 PM on 09.15.08
->> Mark,

I believe that the fastest Leica 35mm camera lens available over-the-counter until the intro of this new Noctilux was the 50mm f/1.0 M-mount Noctilux that they introduced in the mid-70s.

There was a 75mm f/.085 Summar that Leica made in the mid-30s but if it was a Summar it was probably real soft....

-- Jim
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Sean D. Elliot, Photographer, Photo Editor
Norwich | CT | USA | Posted: 3:20 PM on 09.16.08
->> Today's WSJ has a fascinating story on the M8 and Leica's struggles to compete in the digital market:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122152103387739231.html
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Jason Johns, Student/Intern, Photographer
Biddeford | ME | USA | Posted: 10:23 PM on 09.16.08
->> Actually, the price is a bit more than that.

DPreview has the retail cost at 6290 pounds, which translates to $11,240.41 USD...

Nice chunk of change there!
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