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Dont Shoot Kayne West at the airport
Walt Middleton, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Columbus | OH | USA | Posted: 1:51 PM on 09.11.08 |
| ->> I hope the photographer presses charges. |
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Matt Brown, Photographer
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Fullerton | CA | USA | Posted: 1:56 PM on 09.11.08 |
| ->> West should be in jail. |
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Bryon Houlgrave, Photographer
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Waukesha | Wi | USA | Posted: 2:08 PM on 09.11.08 |
| ->> So today of all days, who really wants to mess around in an airport? |
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Max Levine, Photographer, Assistant
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Philadelphia | PA | USA | Posted: 2:10 PM on 09.11.08 |
| ->> Kanye West hates photographer people. |
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Rich Cruse, Photographer
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Laguna Niguel | CA | USA | Posted: 2:13 PM on 09.11.08 |
->> This was just on local news here. Man! He really smashed that camera good!
That will cost him much more than the $10,000 to replace the camera. He should have written the guy a check right there. Now he may be going to jail! |
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Michael Proebsting, Photographer
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Barrington | IL | USA | Posted: 2:18 PM on 09.11.08 |
| ->> I think Kanye is due for a good old fashioned cavity search courtesy of the good people at LAX. Really, on 9-11 to pull a stunt like this, what an idiot. |
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Alex Menendez, Photographer
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Orlando | FL | USA | Posted: 2:22 PM on 09.11.08 |
->> Probably did it for the publicity.
Career gong downhill, no one likes you, gotta do something to get your name back in the mix.
What a prick. |
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Josh Peckler, Student/Intern, Photographer
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Chicago | IL | | Posted: 2:57 PM on 09.11.08 |
| ->> "George Bush hates Kayne West" |
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Jeff Stanton, Photographer
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Atown | USA | USA | Posted: 3:10 PM on 09.11.08 |
| ->> Geeese, what a piece of shit he is! |
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Max Gersh, Photographer
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St. Louis | MO | USA | Posted: 3:32 PM on 09.11.08 |
->> I think entertainers should be required to take a first amendment law class before they become celebrities.
Kanye's crews view on the first ammendment:
http://tinyurl.com/4urusa
The TMZ videographer speaks:
http://tinyurl.com/4sayj3
A couple choice words come to mind. |
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Patrick Smith, Student/Intern, Photographer
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Baltimore | MD | USA | Posted: 3:37 PM on 09.11.08 |
->> Can't blame Kanye West, he says it in his song "Flashing Lights" that he hates the paparazzi:
"I get a call, like where are you deezy
I tried to hit you with the o wokie
Till I got flashed by the paparazzi
Dang these n****** got me
I hate these n****** more than nazis" |
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Louis Lopez, Photographer
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Fontana | CA | USA | Posted: 4:03 PM on 09.11.08 |
->> Arrested for Vandalism?? looks like quite a bit more than Vandalism to me.. he rips the camera from the photographer and then destroys it by throwing to the ground.
it's about time they stop being soft on these guys and hit them with a real charge.
I know sportshooter has law enforcement people as members, how about we hear some suggestions for the D.A. on a charge for Mr. West.
everyone now, lets assist the D.A. |
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Josh Thompson, Photographer
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Ontario | California | USA | Posted: 4:25 PM on 09.11.08 |
->> Celebrities like Kanye West should be glad that paparazzi still want to follow them around... they'll be glad to get the photos taken in public once their careers begin to fizzle. What's better than free publicity?
As long as the paparazzi in this case didn't do anything illegal, Kanye West and his bodyguard should be fully prosecuted. |
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David Bailey, Photographer
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Flower Mound | TX | USA | Posted: 11:59 PM on 09.11.08 |
->> He's a thug and should be charged with assault, battery and vandalism and since it's $10,000 it's a felony in CA.
Actually a case could be made for ROBBERY "stealing or intent to deprive an owner of his property by means of force or fear". I certainly think that would apply in this case.
He should go to jail and pay a huge civil fine, big enought to make it hurt. |
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Mike Brice, Photographer
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Toledo | OH | USA | Posted: 12:52 AM on 09.12.08 |
->> As fast as this hit the airways, and such, I have to wonder if some of this is planned or staged....
Photog gets new camera and a monetary settlement, and after a couple of days in the spotlight, charges are dropped and rapper retains his tough guy image....
Watching the video, and then the interview with the videographer, it all seems a bit fake.
But maybe its just me being a cynic... |
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Dave Londres, Photographer
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Utica | NY | USA | Posted: 1:22 AM on 09.12.08 |
->> Mike, I don't think it was staged. Those video guys are professionals, just like most of the people here. The incident happened at 8am and it was online at 1:25pm, that's very doable. I do think the photog will get substantially more than 10k out of Kanye's pocket when this is all said and done.
What I'm wondering is how this spins,
A. Stars get a lesson on the 1st amendment.
or
B. Everyone starts talking about how the paparazzi and photographers are evil and need to stop causing this. |
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Albert Brown, Photographer
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Washington | DC | USA | Posted: 9:59 AM on 09.12.08 |
->> Hmm.... When you watch the video on Yahoo! (http://gmy.news.yahoo.com/v/9695755).. it looks like Kanye grabbed the camera from photographer, then his bodyguard grabbed the camera from Kanye and then the bodyguard slammed the camera to the floor. The only thing Kanye had in his hand was a flash (which he threw to the ground).
Any guesses on what camera (+ lenses combo) that was that apparently cost $10K? |
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Tom Knier, Photographer
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Lancaster | PA | USA | Posted: 11:27 AM on 09.12.08 |
| ->> I know that paparazzi are annoying. That's obvious to everyone. But with the fame comes the fact that one must deal with them, pleasant or not. What I would like to know is what exactly the shooter was hoping to get with Kanye at the airport. A shot of him checking luggage? Handing his ID to the security folks? It's not like Kanye was doing anything even remotely interesting... I mean, who would buy photos of Kanye dressed as the Unabomber? |
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Aaron Bernstein, Student/Intern, Photographer
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Bloomington | IN | USA | Posted: 11:32 AM on 09.12.08 |
| ->> I think its a stretch to call the guys who shoot video for TMZ or any of the paparazzi outlets for that matter professional. |
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Martin McNeil, Photographer
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East Kilbride | Lanarkshire | United Kingdom | Posted: 11:43 AM on 09.12.08 |
| ->> A 1Ds MK3, a 70-200 f/2.8 IS and a 580 EX II clocks in at $9,918.95 from B&H... add in a fast CF card and bingo - you've got your $10K camera. |
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Phil Hawkins, Photographer
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Fresno | ca | usa | Posted: 12:11 PM on 09.12.08 |
| ->> Who the hell is Kanye? |
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Patrick Fallon, Student/Intern, Photographer
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Columbia | MO | USA | Posted: 2:09 PM on 09.12.08 |
->> "He says In "Flashing Lights" that he hates the paparazzi"
Does that make this a HATE CRIME?? |
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Dirk Dewachter, Photographer
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Playa Del Rey | CA | USA | Posted: 2:35 PM on 09.12.08 |
->> This is not just your average misdemeanor vandalism, it is Felony Vandalism because of the value exceeding $400.00. Kanye, once a gangster, always a gangster - no matter how much money or what skillset they have that brings you fame and money, you can't buy intelligence, common sense, a sense of responsibility and civility. Both his body guard and him are looking at felony vandalism charges and don't know if there are any federal statutes that may apply because it took place in an airport. I can bet you that section 594(b)(1) of the California Penal Code is listed on his booking sheet. The beyond a reasonable doubt requirement should be a formality after viewing the video.
594. (a) Every person who maliciously commits any of the following acts with respect to any real or personal property not his or her own, in cases other than those specified by state law, is guilty of vandalism:
(1) Defaces with graffiti or other inscribed material.
(2) Damages.
(3) Destroys.
Whenever a person violates this subdivision with respect to real property, vehicles, signs, fixtures, furnishings, or property belonging to any public entity, as defined by Section 811.2 of the Government Code, or the federal government, it shall be a permissive inference that the person neither owned the property nor had the
permission of the owner to deface, damage, or destroy the property.
(b) (1) If the amount of defacement, damage, or destruction is four hundred dollars ($400) or more, vandalism is punishable by imprisonment in the state prison or in a county jail not exceeding one year, or by a fine of not more than ten thousand dollars ($10,000), or if the amount of defacement, damage, or destruction is ten thousand dollars ($10,000) or more, by a fine of not more than fifty thousand dollars ($50,000), or by both that fine and imprisonment. |
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Jeff Martin, Photographer
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wellington | OH | usa | Posted: 2:38 PM on 09.12.08 |
| ->> I don't understand why these guys give up their gear without a fight. I'm not a big guy. Probably would take a beating, but that's a beating I'll face if needed. |
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Chuck Liddy, Photographer
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Durham | NC | USA | Posted: 2:44 PM on 09.12.08 |
| ->> aaron, whether or not they were paparazzi or what you think of that said job is irrelevant to this. here is a question for you. your friend is walking through the airport and hust happens to shoot a photo of a no-talent scum bag like this kanye thug. he walks over and assaults your friend in a public place and smashes his camera into little bits. you think that guy has a right to do that? sorry but just because paparazzi might be considered bottom feeders to many of us just standing in a public place and taking a photo doesn't give ANYONE the right to have their ass kicked and their property destroyed. The one thing I noticed in the video was the fool yelling to get "that camera out of my face" and he was 20 feet away.I hope they put that jackass under the jail. |
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Matthew Cavanah, Student/Intern, Photographer
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Columbia | MO | US | Posted: 5:39 PM on 09.12.08 |
->> Patrick: Extremely inappropriate. Grow up.
Now I'm not trying to take Kanye's side or anything, god knows I'd have pressed charges if that was my gear. This is just a straightforward question to give me some clarification. Doesn't TMZ have a reputation for badgering the celebrities that they follow?
Not saying this happened in this case, the video is far too short, for all we know the photographer could have offered West a mint or he could have said something in attempt to illicit such a response, we just don't know from that video. |
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Jenn Jedynak, Photographer
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Northern | ON | | Posted: 6:56 PM on 09.12.08 |
->> According to TMZ, The still camera that was broken, allegedly by the bodyguard, is a Canon 40D - valued at $1429.96. Kanye allegedly broke a flash valued at $100, and the bodyguard, again allegedly, broke a TMZ video camera valued at $7,000.
Therefore $8429.96 in damages for the bodyguard - $100 for Kanye. Difference being between felony charges for the bodyguard (damage over $400) and misdemeanor charges, if any for Kanye. |
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Mark Peters, Photographer
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Highland | IL | USA | Posted: 7:45 PM on 09.12.08 |
| ->> So why is this battery? |
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Mark Peters, Photographer
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Highland | IL | USA | Posted: 7:46 PM on 09.12.08 |
| ->> s/b why ISN'T this battery? |
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Louis Lopez, Photographer
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Fontana | CA | USA | Posted: 7:51 PM on 09.12.08 |
->> is that really how they divide up the blame when a crime is committed??
During a bank robbery, with a gang of thieves, do they divide up the total amount between the suspects to assign who took more or just charge them all together.
why defend there actions?? for the sake of argument,
Two guys acted in concert to forcibly take someones property from another by force and also destroyed the property. they should be charged equally for what sounds like robbery and another charge of felony vandalism to me.
At least in California I believe if you took part in the criminal act, they can charge you the same as if you actually pulled the trigger, so to speak...
This is not about defending the TMZ guys, this is about a person doing a perfectly legal act filming in a public airport, and being attacked.
next time it will be a tourist with his camcorder that happens to see a celebrity and films him for his vacation video and is attacked.
stop defending these criminals. |
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Louis Lopez, Photographer
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Fontana | CA | USA | Posted: 7:53 PM on 09.12.08 |
->> My last line should read:
stop defending these criminal acts. |
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Chuck Liddy, Photographer
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Durham | NC | USA | Posted: 8:00 PM on 09.12.08 |
| ->> nah lewis...you had it right the first time |
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