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Lens for Boxing at the Olympics
Scott Mallon, Photographer
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Bangkok | N/A | Thailand | Posted: 4:03 PM on 07.29.08 |
->> I leave for a week to Beijing to shoot amateur boxing at the Games. My question is, will a 70-200 MM lens be long enough? I've never used anything longer in all the fights I've shot but I've never shot the Olympics. I know it would be a good idea to bring one just in case but...I don't have a longer lens than this because 1) I've never need one and 2) My budget hasn't allowed me to purchase a longer lens.
I know Canon may have a few lenses but...they probably don't have enough and frankly I'm a little worried.
Thanks. |
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Scott Mallon, Photographer
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Bangkok | N/A | Thailand | Posted: 4:05 PM on 07.29.08 |
| ->> One more thing...what will Canon require if I am able to borrow a lens from them? Credential, Passport, Credit card??? So many questions...excited and nervous... |
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Robert Hanashiro, Photographer
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Los Angeles | CA | | Posted: 4:21 PM on 07.29.08 |
->> Having shot a little boxing and a few Olympic Games ... If you're not ringside , which is generally an IOP position with possibly one or two spots available for rotation, LONG lenses will be necessary.
Not having seen the venue or photo positions yet, I would hazard a guess that a 400mm would be the minimum and probably a 600mm would be nice and tight.
Canon and Nikon will have service centers in Beijing, but they have been severely limited in the amount of equipment they were allowed to bring into the country.
Equipment loans are on a first-come-first-serve basic. And usually... unless it is a repair loan, is just for one day ... pick up the loaner gear early in the morning, drop it off that evening.
If you need to use gear daily, I would highly recommend having your own rather than count of getting a loaner lens every day.
Just my opinion.
Mahalo! |
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Scott Mallon, Photographer
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Bangkok | N/A | Thailand | Posted: 4:43 PM on 07.29.08 |
->> Thanks Robert....
Not able to buy what I need right now so I'll try and borrow one here in Bangkok. |
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Bryan Crowe, Photographer
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Fullerton | CA | US | Posted: 7:33 PM on 07.29.08 |
->> Scott,
If you are not a Canon Pro Services member you should join. I believe you have to be to borrow equipment. As Robert said the heavy hitters will tie up most of the ring space and you'll need at least 400mm from the alternate locations. I personally like the 85 1.8 if you get on the ring, it's a sharp lens on a budget even at F2 and when shot horizontally it gives you a nice tight shot with both boxers from the waist up. |
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Ed Mulholland, Photographer
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Pompton Lakes | NJ | USA | Posted: 11:58 PM on 07.29.08 |
->> Scott,
Bert is 100% on the money with his advice, I shot the AIBA World Championships this year, and their were a maximum of 4 shooters on the ring allowed. I had a reserved spot shooting for AIBA, AP had one, and they had two rotating spots that were generally assigned by country...
Ed |
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George Bridges, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Washington | DC | USA | Posted: 8:59 AM on 07.30.08 |
->> At the Olympics you don't need to be a CPS or NPS member to borrow gear, you just have to be a credentialed Olympic photographer to check gear out from the service desks.
But as Bert said, this time the camera makers will have less gear to loan and you are supposed to return it each night and the loaner desks are at the Main Press Center -- so you will have to shuttle there in the morning, get the gear, then go to boxing venue then back at night to the MPC.
Also you will find that some unscrupulous people will check out a lens for the day and just not return it for a few days or for the length of the games. If they don't go back to pick up something else then it will be hard for NPS or CPS to track them down to get the lens back.
So try to get something before you go if you can. |
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Derrick den Hollander, Photographer
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Melbourne | VIC | AUSTRALIA | Posted: 10:49 AM on 07.30.08 |
->> I don't know how many Pool positions will be ringside, it can vary from event to event, depending upon the understanding of the competition manager, and the skill of the Photo Manager.
The Pool positions would then generally go to the largest media organisations - typically Getty, AP, Reuters, and most likely Xinhua. Still, if you don't put your name down for a Pool vest to get ringside, then you won't get ringside. My understanding is the majority of Photo Managers at the Games will be Chinese. Quite possibly unskilled at major events too. Big problem.
Anyway, I'm certainly no expert at boxing, but my SS gallery has boxing pics - I found the 24-70 on a D3 ideal, the 70-200 a little too long. If I were going to Beijing, I'd take a 24-70, 70-200, 400 and converters for boxing. Hopefully, the Photo Manager has a bit of courage and can fight for good photo positions, and good numbers of Pool positions so the major agencies and the competing nations get good positions.
I kinda have my doubts though..... |
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Worth Canoy, Photographer
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High Point | NC | USA | Posted: 2:13 PM on 07.30.08 |
->> Never shot boxing, but Canon CPS had a new 800mm at Indianapolis last week for the Brickyard 400.
Impressive...
I didn't shoot with it, but a friend did and told CPS that it was TOO long to shoot racing!
Good luck with the Olympics guys. |
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Scott Mallon, Photographer
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Bangkok | N/A | Thailand | Posted: 6:52 AM on 07.31.08 |
->> Thanks guys...if I were to get ringside, I'm fine but I'm sure if I were lucky it would nonetheless be minimum of time.
I may be able to borrow a lens from a photographer who is accompanying me so hopefully I'll be okay. Generally, I use a 24-70 MM, 50 MM, and 70-200 MM but...no 400 MM and up. If necessary, I'll head over to the MPC as soon as I arrive. |
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Robert Hanashiro, Photographer
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Los Angeles | CA | | Posted: 11:03 AM on 07.31.08 |
->> Good luck.
But as everyone has indicated, best to have long glass (400mm and/or 600mm) to use from the photo position which is usually in the spectator seating.
But don't count on ringside.
It is really a hassle to pick up and drop off loaner gear every day from Canon and Nikon at the MPC. |
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Robert Hanashiro, Photographer
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Los Angeles | CA | | Posted: 11:05 AM on 07.31.08 |
->> Canon Info for Beijing:
Welcome to Canon CPS depot at Beijing Olympics
佳能專業服務中心歡迎您
Dear Photographer,
Welcome to China.
During the Beijing Olympic Game period, Canon CPS (Canon Professional Service)
will welcome you with a special service depot inside Main Press Center (MPC). During
this period, a professional team composes of global Canon staff will provide support
with ardor for you.
親愛的攝影師,
歡迎您來到北京。
在北京奧運會期間,佳能將一如既往設立專業服務中心。屆時來自全球的佳能工作人員
將為您提供熱情周到的服務。
Canon CPS Depot 佳能專業服務中心
The CPS depot will be located in three Media Center, including Beijing Main Press
Center, Qingdao Sailing Press Center and Hong Kong Shatin Equestrian Press
Center.
Opening schedule and service offered may differ due to competition schedule and
number of the photographer we expect. Please check the CPS Depot Opening
Schedule attached on the end of this document for your reference.
Service Offered提供的服務
1. Check and clean, minor repairs for your equipment
簡單器材清潔檢查,有限條件下的設備維修
2. Short term loans of back up equipment for service replacement (Subject to
availability)
維修期間的短期備用器材支援
3. Short term loans for camera and lens trial (Subject to availability)
用於試用目的的短期相機和鏡頭的出借
(2-3兩項出借均在佳能後備機數量允許情況下提供。)
Please note that due to limited resource,Qingdao and Hong Kong CPS depot
can only provide check and clean, minor repairs and emergency backup loan of
camera and lense service.
請注意!由於資源有限,在青島和香港的佳能服務櫃台,只能提供簡單的器材清潔檢
查、有限條件下的維修及緊急狀況的後備機出借服務。
Registration and admission服務對象
Canon will accept the following guests at the service depot:
佳能專業服務中心將為以下人員提供服務
- Accredited professional photographers (EP & EPS)
大會註冊攝影師
- CPS members
佳能CPS會員
- Other Canon guests at Canon’s discretion
其他佳能公司認可的客人
Before you leave home在您出發前
Due to limited facilities, repair capabilities will be restricted. Therefore we strongly
recommend:
鑒於器材數量有限,現場維修條件亦有限。因為我們強烈建議您:
- Visit our repair facilities in your home country and have your equipment
(Camera and Lens)checked before the Games.
出行前,請在貴國檢測您的設備,以確保設備正常。
- Bring all the equipment you will need to cover your assignment, please do not
rely on the use of Canon loan equipment. |
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