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OT: Looking for Point & Shoot Camera Recommendations
Ruth Faison, Photographer
Clarksburg | MD | USA | Posted: 11:04 PM on 05.24.08
->> I'm going to China (Xi'an, Beijing, and Shanghai) for 12 days in late June and while I'm going to take my Mark II w/one lens, it's so big and heavy that I'd like to also have a point & shoot. ... if I can decide which one to buy! I'm hoping I can find what I want for close to $300 and I won't go over $400.

Here's my wish-list and thinking thus far:
1. More rather than less optical zoom, though the longest zooms are so chunky they pretty much flunk the portability test.
2. Image quality is a priority, hopefully including in lower-light and at higher ISOs (yes I want it all!!).
3. As little shutter-lag as possible
4. decent flash

Several years ago I was impressed with the images a friend got using a Panasonic, so I've been looking at the Lumix TZ5 but figured I'd ask here before pulling out the credit card.

I've heard some favorable comments about one of the Sony's (though no one seems to know the model number) but am not wild about having to deal with yet another memory card type - though for a great camera, I could get over it.

I've been reading reviews at dpreview and steve's digicams, but my eyes are starting to glaze over so I'm throwing the question out here - any recommendations and/or other things to think about will be appreciated.
Thanks-
Ruth
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Robert Hanashiro, Photographer
Los Angeles | CA | | Posted: 11:22 PM on 05.24.08
->> For a P&S camera there is the G9...and then the rest.

Obviously more than you want to spend. But there is no more versatile P&S available in my mind. Great stills. Time lapse, RAW files, decent video, small, light, decent optics.

Save up a few more $$$ and get THE BEST.
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Robert Hanashiro, Photographer
Los Angeles | CA | | Posted: 11:36 PM on 05.24.08
->> I am reminded another cool feature of the G9 is the hotshoe. If you're into the "Strobist" style of lighting...or for that matter studio lighting via a hotshoe to pc adapter...this makes the G9 even more versatile.

Another friend also mentions that its predecessor the G7 is very similar and if you can live without RAW file capabilities you can save a few $$$ and try to find one of these tucked away on a store's shelf or warehouse.
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Jon Cunningham, Photographer
Lisle | IL | USA | Posted: 12:56 AM on 05.25.08
->> While I would not dispute that the G9 and G7 are great P&S cameras, I would recommend some PowerShots that have one invaluable feature that they do not.

The articulated LCD screen can help one make photos like no feature available, even in an SLR, can do.

In addition to the periscope qualities of shooting over crowds, or at ground level, or around corners, ANY firm (horizontal or vertical) surface becomes the equivalent of a tripod in low light, while still allowing easy composing.

I took some incredible night photos while on vacation in Paris with an A630 and no tripod. (Email for samples.) The A630 also came in very handy for shooting over crowds at the tour de France.

Couple this with macro focusing to around 1/2 inch, and there are shots available that you can easily get without being a contortionist.

The Canon PowerShot A650, A640, A630, etc. all have this valuable feature, and all cost less than a G9 or G7.
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David Bailey, Photographer
Flower Mound | TX | USA | Posted: 1:22 AM on 05.25.08
->> Yep, the G9 is the only way to go. And, that comes from a Nikon shooter. It's a little more than the $400 limit you've set but you won't be sorry. Sell some junk on eBay to make up the difference.

Amazon has them for $449.95 with free shipping so it's not much more than your limit.
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Scott Foley, Photographer
Camp Victory | Iraq | | Posted: 2:09 AM on 05.25.08
->> G9 is it...playing around with mine over here in Iraq and it is impressive...love the time phase video option...

A used G5 would serve you well, I had one until this year when I picked up the G9.

It is definitely worth the extra $$$
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Robert Hanashiro, Photographer
Los Angeles | CA | | Posted: 2:09 AM on 05.25.08
->> http://tinyurl.com/4almkb
http://tinyurl.com/5yevhs
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Robert Hanashiro, Photographer
Los Angeles | CA | | Posted: 2:23 AM on 05.25.08
->> Ruth ---

There is one P&S camera recommended by my good buddy Myung J. Chun from the LA Times ... the Canon PowerShot SD870 IS.

It is within your price range, image quality is pretty good for such a small camera.

Shoots pretty decent video.

Top asa is 1600, though it's a little noisy.

Has IS.

8-megpixel.

And the best part: A zoom range of 28-105mm (35mm film equivalent).

One drawback of most P&S cameras is the zoom is not very wide, but the SD870 has a relatively wide 28mm on the short end of the zoom range. Myung has shot some great stills and cool video with his P&S.

Mahalo!
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Svein Ove Ekornesvaag, Photographer
Aalesund | Møre og Romsdal | Norway | Posted: 5:26 AM on 05.25.08
->> Many good recomondations here, so it depends on wich spesifications you prefer. I guess manual settings are important?


The g9 is a really good p&s, but it's $469 on b&h.

Powershot s5 is another, price is $315. The rotating LCD on powershot s5 is really nice when shooting in akward positions. It has 12x optical zoom. The s5 is quite large, so I wouldn't call it a pocketcamera.

My choice would be to save up a little more money and buy the G9. Then you can also use your Canon flash when you need more power.
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Jack Howard, Photographer, Photo Editor
Central | NJ | USA | Posted: 10:03 AM on 05.25.08
->> http://www.popphoto.com/cameras/4599/camera-test-canon-powershot-g9.html

http://www.popphoto.com/cameras/5222/lab-test-panasonic-lumix-dmc-tz5.html



Wide angle coverage and distortion control: TZ5 wins hands-down. Wider angle, virtually no distortion.

Reach: TZ5 wins again. More Reach. Both show slight Pin at max zoom.

I'll let you puzzle over the rest of the test results in those two articles for IQ comparos...

"Pocketability: TZ5 gets the edge--the G9 *may* fit into some baggy pockets, but not others.

RAW/Manual/Hotshoe/Optical Viewfinder: All G9 perks missing on the TZ5.

720p HD video: Only the TZ5.


Me, I'd bring both...
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Robert Hanashiro, Photographer
Los Angeles | CA | | Posted: 1:11 PM on 05.25.08
->> This is the killer for me on that Panasonic:
"...no Manual controls -- not even an either/or Aperture or Shutter Option" For the price, it'd be pretty attractive to those on a budget.

I'll stick with the G9 but can see why some would buy others because of cost.

I've had a couple of lower end PowerShots, love the swivel LCD on my old A610, but the build on the lower end models isn't close to the G9. (Or G7...haven't seen a G5, but I suspect it's the same.) But the image quality, still and video, is pretty decent for the $$$.

Generally I have a P&S with me most of the time.
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Jon Buder, Student/Intern, Photographer
Aztec | NM | USA | Posted: 11:02 PM on 05.25.08
->> It seems to me they gave up a few great features of the G5 and G6 to make the G7 and G9.

I had the G5, it had a 35-140 equivelant lens if I remember correctly, but the kicker was that it was 2.0 on the wide end and 3.0 on the long end. Most point and shoots are about f4-f5 when they get into that range, and it softened the background a little more than others if you used it wide open.

They also used to have the same swiveling screens as the other powershots, but Canon took that away and traded the zoom for a longer but slower one.

I was dissapointed with the speed of the operation of the G5, and I wanted better video capabilities, so I sold it a while back.
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David Bailey, Photographer
Flower Mound | TX | USA | Posted: 11:08 PM on 05.25.08
->> Here's one that has just been posted for sale here on SS.

http://www.sportsshooter.com/classitem.html?id=22972
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Chuck Liddy, Photographer
Durham | NC | USA | Posted: 8:54 AM on 05.26.08
->> love my g9. have an S series camera (S2) it was a great camera but I like the fact that the g9 when powered down is a little bigger than a box of cigarettes and fits into a lowepro belt holder. awesome files and good video
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James Lee, Photographer
Vincent | OH | USA | Posted: 9:00 AM on 05.26.08
->> I have a G7 and really like it but it should be noted that the "A" series take AA batteries which can be very convenient in a travel camera. And, as much as I like the G7 and I do get a fair amount of use out of it, it's a little big and clunky even in a large cargo pocket which means you'll likely be carrying it on a shoulder most of the time. I think, that defeats much of the purpose of a P&S. Mine generally travels in my glove compartment or a small shoulder bag. If I had it to do again, I'd probably have purchased something like the Canon A640.
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Jody Gomez, Photographer
Murrieta | CA | USA | Posted: 7:46 PM on 05.27.08
->> I got a Fuji Fine Pix for my birthday and I love it. It's cheap and great quality for what you pay. I started a thread about it but it was deleted.
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Dianna Russell, Photographer
Springfield | MO | USA | Posted: 6:25 AM on 05.28.08
->> Even though I'm a Nikon user, I finally broke down and got a G9 ... just reading the manual and haven't used it yet. I still need to get a decent SD card. Could only find a SanDisk Ultra II 2 GB. The package says its 100x 15mb/s. Maybe that will be ok but, I'd like to at least get a 4 GB and maybe an 8. It will be nice to finally have a good small camera to carry with me when I'm not shooting.

Good luck with your choice, Ruth.

Dianna
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