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New Mark III firmware, anyone venture there?
Justin Deeley, Photographer
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Noble Park | VIC | Australia | Posted: 5:29 PM on 04.30.08 |
| ->> Just about to install it. Will let everyone know my thoughts later today |
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Bryen Ford, Photographer
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Spring City | PA | | Posted: 9:32 AM on 05.01.08 |
| ->> I installed it on my post fixed camera yesterday. I shot girls lax with it and it did seem to have a higher keeper rate. The AF seems to lock in faster and does not seem as jumpy as it was before. |
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Jim Cowsert, Photographer
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Grapevine | TX | USA | Posted: 9:39 AM on 05.01.08 |
| ->> I'm going to test it out today at the Royals v Rangers day game. Suppose to be cloudy at the start of the game and then clearing up. Hopefully I'll get to test it in sunny and low contrast light today to see how it performs. |
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Max Simbron, Photographer, Assistant
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Phoenix | AZ | USA | Posted: 12:48 PM on 05.01.08 |
->> I just installed it. I never had issues with my AF, so I can't say it's better or not.
Joystick AF is great though. You can set it to work 2 ways, either activated after an AF select button is pressed, or always ready once you move the joystick.
I like it. |
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Matthew Mullen, Photographer
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Brick | NJ | USA | Posted: 12:52 PM on 05.01.08 |
->> I put the firmware in Wednesday night and shot some little league baseball with it Thursday. Tracking was definitely better, focus felt more confident if that makes sense, less jittery and and it lost the tendency to jump to the background if the center point fell off the main subject momentarily. The one caveat in this is these kids were not that fast so it wasn't a perfect test for focus tracking, but my keeper rate was near 100% if based solely on focus quality.
I have preferred using the MKIII vs my MKII since the day I got it. I have never experienced the type of disappointment Preston Mack and others have with their Mark III's. I have over 150,000 frames on the Mark III and it has never let me down. That is not to say that it isn't frustrating sometimes having to compensate for the cameras nervousness. In AIServo you could hear the focus motor twittering back and forth just waiting for an excuse to switch focus lock to something else.
This tendency appears to have disappeared. So to sum this up I am cautiously optimistic about the changes to the autofocus. |
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David Seelig, Photographer
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Hailey | ID | USA | Posted: 4:19 PM on 05.02.08 |
| ->> I just shot cardinals minicamp all backlight, it was much better then would I had seen before. Nothing jumping oout of focus used center point only only out of focus stuff was when the payer moved off of the center point very ahppy so far both with a 400 and a 70-200. |
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Ron Scheffler, Photographer
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Hamilton (Toronto area) | Ontario | Canada | Posted: 9:25 PM on 05.02.08 |
->> Minicamp today for me too, but it was indoors in a practice facility: ISO 3200 1/400 f/2.8 shot primarily with a 400 but also a 300 2.8.
Both cameras are early serial numbers and have had the fix. Compared to earlier firmware versions, the AI Servo AF behavior was much calmer, especially on stationary subjects. The jerseys were either white or very, very dark navy blue and AF managed to lock on well considering the relatively low contrast and low light. There were many times during sequences of a player running where the frame rate slowed down (I have the cameras set to focus priority), but that was also the case with past cameras. Compared to the Mark II and earlier, I (still) find the Mark III to be the best Canon I've used for low light action. It locks focus faster and with more confidence. That's not to say there weren't soft frames but the proportion didn't seem to be a concern considering the poor lighting.
I'd really like to read feedback from those who've worked under high-noon sun and high temperatures. I think the new firmware has improved the camera, but until then, I'm reluctant to consider it truly fixed. |
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Alex Menendez, Photographer
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Orlando | FL | USA | Posted: 10:27 PM on 05.02.08 |
->> I'm shooting an Arena Football game tomorrow night. ISO 1250, f2.8, 500.
Will let you know how it looks with the pyrotechnic smoke and then in the 2nd half without the smoke.
Black uniforms with crap light. Should look ok, just wonder how many will be in focus??
alex |
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Corbey Dorsey, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Cozad | NE | USA | Posted: 11:36 PM on 05.02.08 |
| ->> I used it for the first time on Thursday shooting a soccer game. It seemed to be quicker on the tracking aspect of things. It was very quick to snap onto a player and followed the action much better---better than a previous shoot in very similar conditions. |
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David Seelig, Photographer
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Hailey | ID | USA | Posted: 2:01 AM on 05.03.08 |
| ->> Mind you my minicamp was 86 degrees and all photos backight. so a good torture test. |
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Jim Cowsert, Photographer
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Grapevine | TX | USA | Posted: 7:34 AM on 05.03.08 |
->> I had very nice results from the Royals-Rangers game Thursday @ 1PM in a mix of bright daylight and overcast with warm weather here in Texas. Out of 750 frames only a few I'd consider soft, and no sequences oof that was not my fault. Seemed to snap in focus extremely fast and lock in.
I admit this was the first day game that I shot with my week old mkIII, but comparing it to a similar game with my IIn, it seemed the same with the exception that I got the first shot in a sequence nailed with the III more.
A few examples can be seen here:
http://www.grapevinephoto.com/mk3test/
The first series of Kinsler rounding 3rd base was with the 300 f/2.8 and 1.4x, so at f/4. |
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Walt Middleton, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Columbus | OH | USA | Posted: 8:01 AM on 05.03.08 |
->> Alright... I use my Mark III all day yesterday shooting golf in bright sunlight... with the new firmware and all of the previous fixes... mirror adj. ect... The focus was great I didn't have any problem. Albeit golfers don't run very fast so the AIServo probably didn't need to work very hard.
I did however have one problem... When I would take a look at a photo before the camera was done writing to the card... I could see the image preview but later when I wen't back to look at that same photo again, it would then say that it was unreadable. They turned out fine once I downloaded them. But I haven't had this problem before...
Has anyone else?
Thanks,
Walt |
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Ron Scheffler, Photographer
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Hamilton (Toronto area) | Ontario | Canada | Posted: 1:54 PM on 05.03.08 |
->> Walt, I think I had a similar problem for a while with either the Mark II or the Mark IIN... can't remember which. There were two "solutions" for me. Either wait until the camera was done writing to the card, or if the yellow question mark unreadable file warning appears during review, take the card out and reinsert it. I'm pretty sure this hasn't yet happened to me with the Mark III.
Out of curiosity, which brand cards are you using, or is it a mix of brands? |
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Walt Middleton, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Columbus | OH | USA | Posted: 2:36 PM on 05.03.08 |
| ->> sandisk... extreme IV |
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Konstandinos Goumenidis, Photographer
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San Francisco Bay Area | CA | USA | Posted: 1:34 AM on 05.04.08 |
| ->> EH... I hope is going to work for me... after the mirror change my camera got even worse. I hope this does the trick... I am extremely frustrated with my MKIII |
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Justin Deeley, Photographer
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Noble Park | VIC | Australia | Posted: 6:54 PM on 05.04.08 |
->> Walt,
Can you narrow it down to which card you were shooting with
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I had a similar issue with the image preview on a 1D mkIII.
In my case it was the card which was failing - it only did it with one card and Lexar replaced that without question so my problem was solved.
As for the new firmware, I've only done some quick setup shoots (this weekend will be the real test over in Perth for 3 days of V8 Supercars at midday!) but so far I'm pretty happy with the focus performance - I was struggling with backlit situations mostly and that does seem to be a bit better to lock on.
I do love the new focus point selection (I hated the method that they picked for the MkIII's as I tend to change focus point alot) but the joystick makes it soooo easy!
Best regards,
Justin |
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Walt Middleton, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Columbus | OH | USA | Posted: 6:59 PM on 05.04.08 |
->> I figured out it was the card...
Or at least it hasn't re-occured with another card... I guess I'll keep that card in the MK IIN all of the time.
It never had that problem in that camera and the card isn't new.
Thanks,
Walt |
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Patrick Fallon, Student/Intern, Photographer
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Columbia | MO | USA | Posted: 7:16 PM on 05.04.08 |
->> Walt,
I have a 1D MKIIN, and I get that from time to time with my extreme IV, any more ideas why? Sometimes even I can play them back, then I continue shooting and can no longer play those same images back..
Should I be concerned? |
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Jody Gomez, Photographer
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Murrieta | CA | USA | Posted: 8:40 PM on 05.04.08 |
->> My focusing now sucks on moving objects. I did a senior portrait session with it yesterday and it was great. Today I tried shooting horses and everything except for static objects was soft.
I wonder if it was the firmware or if it's my 70-200. Tomorrow I'm going to shoot some stuff with my 300 and see if I can figure out if it's the camera or the lens. |
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Dan Powers, Photographer
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Appleton | WI | USA | Posted: 10:17 PM on 05.04.08 |
| ->> Recently I had an Extreme IV card give me the ? and I sent it back to Robert's Distributors. It was a card problem and they gladly replaced it ...no questions asked...Dan. Oh...It was with a Mark IIn. |
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Andrew Wheeler, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Capitola | CA | USA | Posted: 12:04 AM on 05.05.08 |
->> @Ron et al...
quote"There were two "solutions" for me. Either wait until the camera was done writing to the card, or if the yellow question mark unreadable file warning appears during review, take the card out and reinsert it. I'm pretty sure this hasn't yet happened to me with the Mark III"
As some have mentioned this happend with the MK2N's.
All you need to do is pop the battery out and back in and all is good.
Nothing to do with the cards.
I have another cover shot regards...
Andrew
http://automotophoto.com |
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Ken Shelton, Photographer
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Wyckoff | NJ | USA | Posted: 9:34 AM on 05.05.08 |
->> Saturday in Brooklyn, NY. Gray raw day, AI Servo. Very early 1DMIII which did not have issues before it went in for the mirror fix or updating to 1.2.3
3,700+ images of runners coming straight at me. Maybe 10 were OOF and likely were my issue or runners intentionally raising their hand in front of the lens.
Yesterday in Long Branch, NJ with a SECOND early 1DMIII. Even grayer and more damp with 8,000+ runners. 4,185 images with about 20 OOF. |
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Adam Bird, Photographer
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Grand Rapids | Mi | United States | Posted: 5:57 PM on 05.05.08 |
->> Did mine, shot funny car and top fuel cars doing pratice runs (0-60mph in less then 1/30 sec) and only one frame out, and that was because the car was almost next to me. Tracking was great. Sunny day, on a drag strip.
Joy. |
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Robert Hanashiro, Photographer
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Los Angeles | CA | | Posted: 9:28 PM on 05.05.08 |
->> Canon extends the warranty for the EOS-1D Mark III and EOS-1Ds Mark III to two years!
http://robgalbraith.com/bins/content_page.asp?cid=7-9310-9431
In Austria, Belgium, Czech Republic, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Hungary, Ireland, Italy, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Slovakia, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland and the UK ... |
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Svein Ove Ekornesvaag, Photographer
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Aalesund | Møre og Romsdal | Norway | Posted: 5:17 AM on 05.06.08 |
| ->> In Norway every camera manufacturer have 2 year warranty. |
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Jeff Brehm, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Charlotte | NC | USA | Posted: 8:15 AM on 05.06.08 |
| ->> I'm puzzled as to why Canon would not also offer an extended warranty in the U.S. |
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David Harpe, Photographer
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Louisville | KY | USA | Posted: 11:05 AM on 05.06.08 |
| ->> If you send your MkIII in for the submirror fix, the warranty is extended for a year from the date of the fix. Not as good as a blanket extension, but it's something... |
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Adam Bird, Photographer
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Grand Rapids | Mi | United States | Posted: 7:47 PM on 05.06.08 |
->> Strange. I haven't sent mine in for the fix, and I'm iffy about doing so after the problems that Preston had with his after his fix.
Oh, and I shot tennis and soccer today, outdoors, sunny, mid 70's, and not a single out of focus frame. I'm rather pleased. I hope that others are having similar success. |
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Paul Cacciapaglia, Photographer, Assistant
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Houston (Friendswood) | TX | USA | Posted: 9:28 PM on 05.14.08 |
| ->> I just updated to the new firmware and I swear my focus is not as good now. I did have really sharp focus and crisp images before. Thought I would update to get the other benifits of the new firmware. Is there anyway to go back or is the old fimrware totally deleted from my camera? HELP!!! |
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Keith Allison, Photographer, Assistant
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Baltimore | MD | USA | Posted: 12:02 AM on 05.15.08 |
| ->> Works great for me and I've also determined by trial and error it's critical to set custom functions properly for the type of sport you are photographing and the lighting conditions. Canon has published technical manuals on this topic and I recommend they be closely followed. |
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