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Is Latif image worthy of the Pulitzer Prize?
Tom Ervin, Photographer, Assistant
Palm Beach | FL | USA | Posted: 5:14 PM on 04.07.08
->> I will be the bad guy here. Tell me why Latif image should of won the Pulitzer Prize?
Be SPECIFIC in your answer.

I don't think Latif's image should of won the Prize. I thought it lacked emotion, importance, lacked impact, (couldn't tell what was happening in the piic) graphic composition, and it just didn't have that gut wrenching feeling a person would have when viewing a Pulitzer as compared to say Moore's image.

I thought Latif's image was the wrong choice.

I'm sorry to be a Pulitzer Pooper.
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Saul Loeb, Photographer
Washington | DC | USA | Posted: 5:26 PM on 04.07.08
->> Seriously? Wow.
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Jeff Brehm, Photographer, Photo Editor
Charlotte | NC | USA | Posted: 5:39 PM on 04.07.08
->> I tend to agree with Tom. I was expecting something more "Wow!" I'd like to see the other finalists.
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Nick Layman, Photographer
Albuquerque | NM | | Posted: 5:51 PM on 04.07.08
->> The Pulitzer is an award that creates change in the world because someone gave selflessly to report what was going on in the community or the world.

What Mr. Latif did was go to a place where press restrictions result in death and he showed humanity that a journalist is willing to risk his life to document the opression of a group. Yes when we think of Pulitzer we think of the wide angle up close and personal connection with the photograph. But that photo didn't have that element. Did it have everything else? Yes were people talking about this photo the next day. Yes.

Also, the Pulitzer is nominated and voted on by board members. So the idea of the good ole boy network shouldn't exist. It was a photo that went through the debate and selection process.

I am not calling you out Mr. Ervin but saying the photograph lacked emotion, importance and impact is a complete offense to Mr. Latif's image. He went were some wouldn't even dare and came away with a story telling image. You don't have to read the caption to know what was going on. The photo will cause debate among government officials, the public and the journalism community.

I think the image was very worthy of the Pulitzer nod.
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William Bretzger, Photographer
New Castle | DE | USA | Posted: 7:05 PM on 04.07.08
->> It might be the most respected award in journalism in the US, if not the world, but in the end it is a contest. And it is a competition overseen, mostly, by "non-photo" people who do not live and breathe photography. Opinions will differ.
Tom gave specific reasons why he thought it was not worthy of winning. No reasonable debate over the validity of a winner should be automatically discounted or considered disrespectful. The Pulitzer board and judges are not beyond question. If not this year, there have certainly been very questionable choices in the past. What contest is perfect?
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Charles Ludeke, Student/Intern, Photographer
Columbia | MO | USA | Posted: 7:05 PM on 04.07.08
->> Tom, may I ask how it lacks emotion, importance, impact?
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Bastian Ehl, Photographer
Magdeburg | _ | Germany | Posted: 7:09 PM on 04.07.08
->> It's a tough decision to make. Do you prefer photographic excellence (technical perfection) or the story behind the photo? Lately the competitions seems to rely on the story behind the photo. This year's world press winner has also been controversial regarding this manner.

I personally would prefer photos to be judged on photographic excellence. Content is important aswell, but this should be ranked slightly less. Like 60/40 maybe.
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Jean Finley, Photo Editor, Photographer
Iowa City | IA | USA | Posted: 8:09 PM on 04.07.08
->> Tom - Spend some time with Pulitzer history and you may come up with some clues. It's not about the superficial "wow". It takes more involvement.

As for your disparaging remarks about the winning image, I think it's possible to have a discussion about the selection without degrading the work of a fellow photographer. Wasn't necessary.
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John Lee, Photographer
San Francisco | CA | USA | Posted: 8:12 PM on 04.07.08
->> Some of you might remember a few years ago when this photo of Boris Yeltsin won the Pulitzer Prize:

http://tinyurl.com/5qjgn7

With that said, I think it is understood by most that, although a great and prestigious award it is, the Pulitzer Prize in photography does not always celebrate the best in photojournalism. It's picked by publishers and editor-in-chiefs, not photo professionals.

BUT... There have been some exceptional work recognized by the Pulitzer committees. A few Sportsshooter members have been recipients in the recent past.

Also, you might question the awarding of this year's news photo Pulitzer, but let's remember that this year's feature photo Pulitzer was a pretty kick-ass story.

I guess it goes down to this: An award is an award, which is judged subjectively. But it doesn't mean that any one of us wouldn't mind having a Pulitzer or two.
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John Pavoncello, Photographer
York | PA | USA | Posted: 8:44 PM on 04.07.08
->> "With that said, I think it is understood by most that, although a great and prestigious award it is, the Pulitzer Prize in photography does not always celebrate the best in photojournalism. It's picked by publishers and editor-in-chiefs, not photo professionals."

Looks like a group of photo professionals to me.

List of jurors for Breaking News Photograph

Liza Gross, managing editor, presentation and operations, The Miami Herald (Chair)

Dan Habib, photo editor editor, Concord (NH) Monitor

Naomi Halperin, director of photography, The Morning Call, Allentown, PA

Michelle McNally, assistant managing editor, photography, The New York Times

Zach Ryall, internet managing editor, Austin American-Statesman

Yes, it is an important photo, news wise, but realistically, the Japanese photographer put himself in that position and ended up being killed. It was a chance that any conflict photographer takes. That doesn't make it a pulitzer prize winning event or photo.

The feature photo story was definitely kick-ass
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Brandon Iwamoto, Student/Intern, Photographer
Fort Collins | CO | USA | Posted: 8:52 PM on 04.07.08
->> I tend to agree with Tom, looking at the finalists, I feel the L.A. Times' coverage of the wildfires, from what I saw, were far more compelling, emotional, and well composed.

Wildfires are something that every newspaper covers, the Rocky Mountain News won a Pulitzer for its coverage of wildfires here in Colorado, but I felt the L.A. Times photographic coverage of the wildfires there were FAR better than those of the Rocky (despite my admiration of the photographers at the Rocky Mountain News).

Just my two cents.
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Glenn Connelly, Student/Intern
San Diego | CA | US | Posted: 9:06 PM on 04.07.08
->> I tend to think that this single image is very good, but compared to the work of John Moore on the assassination of Benazir Bhutto i think it pales in comparison, whether it is composition or content.
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Anantachai Brown, Photographer
Jacksonville | FL | | Posted: 9:22 PM on 04.07.08
->> realize this thread of almost worthless without a link to the image...
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Ramsay de Give, Student/Intern, Photographer
Baltimore | MD | USA | Posted: 9:24 PM on 04.07.08
->> It's quite easy to find Anantachai... not worthless.

http://www.pulitzer.org/year/2008/feature-photography/
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Bruce Twitchell, Photographer
Coeur d'Alene | ID | USA | Posted: 9:25 PM on 04.07.08
->> A quick search of "Latif pulitzer" brings up lots of links

http://www.popphoto.com/photographynewswire/5235/columbia-announces-2008-pu...
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Michael McNamara, Photographer, Photo Editor
Phoenix | AZ | USA | Posted: 9:27 PM on 04.07.08
->> If you're going to be questioning the merits of a photo, at least link to the correct one.

http://www.pulitzer.org/year/2008/breaking-news-photography/
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Jody Gomez, Photographer
Murrieta | CA | USA | Posted: 9:30 PM on 04.07.08
->> Preston Gannaway's feature story literally had me in tears. Unbelievable work Preston. Congratulations.

Jody
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Chuck Steenburgh, Photographer
Lexington | VA | USA | Posted: 9:50 PM on 04.07.08
->> I agree with Tom...wrong choice for Pulitzer. But then again, I think he made the wrong choice in selecting his member icon, so what do I know...
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Rob Ostermaier, Photographer
Newport News | VA | USA | Posted: 10:20 PM on 04.07.08
->> I always felt that regardless of composition or technical perfection the winning photo should have some kind of impact world wide. Example - Eddie Adams Vietnam photo or the photo by Joe Rosenthal of the Marine flag raising. Those pictures and others rocked the world. The picture this year may have rocked the journalism world but I don't think the world in general really noticed. That being said, it's just my opinion and it's still a great honor for Adrees Latif and my hat's off to him.
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Rob Ostermaier, Photographer
Newport News | VA | USA | Posted: 10:25 PM on 04.07.08
->> P.S. Don't mark people with an "Inappropriate" for simply voicing their opinion!
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Landon Finch, Photographer
Colorado Springs | CO | USA | Posted: 10:39 PM on 04.07.08
->> http://www.pulitzer.org/year/2007/breaking-news-photography/works/
http://www.pulitzer.org/year/2006/breaking-news-photography/works/
http://www.pulitzer.org/year/2005/breaking-news-photography/works/
http://www.pulitzer.org/year/2004/breaking-news-photography/works/

I agree with Tom.

Compared with previous winning images, this year's winner is rather weak.
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William Bretzger, Photographer
New Castle | DE | USA | Posted: 11:12 PM on 04.07.08
->> John P:

From
http://www.pulitzer.org:

Nominated Finalists are selected by the Nominating Juries for each category as finalists in the competition. The Pulitzer Prize Board generally selects the Pulitzer Prize Winners from the three nominated finalists in each category.

Current Members of The Pulitzer Prize Board
(Updated 04/07/08)

Lee C. Bollinger, President, Columbia University

Danielle Allen, UPS Foundation Professor, School of Social Science, Institute for Advanced Study

Jim Amoss, Editor, Times-Picayune, New Orleans, La.

Amanda Bennett, Executive Editor/Enterprise, Bloomberg News

Joann Byrd (co-chair), Former Editor of the Editorial Page, Seattle Post-Intelligencer

Kathleen Carroll, Executive Editor and Senior Vice President, Associated Press

Thomas L. Friedman., Columnist, The New York Times

Paul Gigot, Editorial Page Editor, The Wall Street Journal

Donald E. Graham, Chairman, The Washington Post

Anders Gyllenhaal, Executive Editor, The Miami Herald

Jay T. Harris, Wallis Annenberg Chair, Director, Center for the Study of Journalism and Democracy, Annenberg School of Communication, University of Southern California

David M. Kennedy, Donald J. McLachlan Professor of History, Stanford University

Nicholas Lemann, Dean, Graduate School of Journalism, Columbia University

Ann Marie Lipinski, Senior Vice President and Editor, Chicago Tribune

Gregory L. Moore, Editor, The Denver Post

Richard Oppel, Editor, Austin American-Statesman

Mike Pride (co-chair), Editor, Concord (N.H.) Monitor

Paul Tash, Editor, CEO, and Chairman, St. Petersburg Times

Sig Gissler, Administrator, Graduate School of Journalism
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Robert Seale, Photographer
Houston | TX | USA | Posted: 11:13 PM on 04.07.08
->> Tom-

You've had some questionable comments on the board before.
I've bitten my tongue in the past, but I can't let this one slide.

What a crappy, insensitive, stupid thing to say. You're way out of line. Why don't you move your family to southeast Asia and risk your life making pictures there every day. Adrees walks the walk every day....speaks five or six languages....has been in Iraq, Afghanistan, Cambodia, and a ton of other places most of us wouldn't go. He's a hell of a photographer, and that photo is a hell of a picture.

Read the caption. The photographer on the ground was killed before your eyes in that photo.

I hope one day you get to meet Mr. Latif and buy him a beer, because you've got brass balls calling out someone else's work on this message board.

Nice.
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Jeff Stanton, Photographer
Princeton | IN | USA | Posted: 11:18 PM on 04.07.08
->> I thought Preston's work was fantastic. Well done and deserving of the win. I am curious as if his photo editor recused himself as a judge on that category?
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Anantachai Brown, Photographer
Jacksonville | FL | | Posted: 11:21 PM on 04.07.08
->> he's talking about the image....does not seem like Tom is attacking Mr. Latif.


am im not a photo j, but i gotta tell ya, after looking at other images, I have to agree that this particular image isn't as powerful.

i wouldn't have voted for it.
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Tom Ervin, Photographer, Assistant
Palm Beach | FL | USA | Posted: 11:30 PM on 04.07.08
->> Brandon your right. The LATIMES photo coverage of the wildfires was awesome.
Many times the photographers took the same type of risks as the firefighters in fighting the fires.

By far the LATIMES had the best photographs except one. So how do you judge LATIMES entry with Moore's entry and Latif's entry in such a contest? I think Moore's one picture is Iconic. The man standing with his arms and eyes towards the sky and surrounded by the carnage left by a murder. The image defines the state of the world we live. The man's crucifixion pose is like begging God for answers. That's my symbolic take of Moore's picture.

I wonder if the judges compromised and picked Latif's.

If I had to pick a winner it would be the LATIMES but Moore's pic stays with me.
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William Bretzger, Photographer
New Castle | DE | USA | Posted: 11:42 PM on 04.07.08
->> Note, too, that Moore was not named a finalist in the breaking news category by the jurors, who passed their top three over to the board for the final pick:

"Also nominated as finalists in this category were: Mahmud Hams of Agence France-Presse for his picture of a missile, caught in mid-air, as it falls on a target in the Gaza Strip while young Palestinians scramble for safety, and the Los Angeles Times Staff for its powerful and often unpredictable photos that captured wildfires devastating California."

http://www.pulitzer.org/year/2008/breaking-news-photography/
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Michael Fischer, Photographer
Spencer | Ia | USA | Posted: 12:16 AM on 04.08.08
->> I guess we'll have to disagree..the guy DIED trying to get the story... he's laying on the ground dying.. the crowd behind him is running to get away. Reminded me of the Capa shot of the Spanish soldier being shot. My test of a good image is that it doesn't need a cutline. This one more than passed. If I'd been sitting next to Latif, my jaw would have been on the ground.

And Preston's work kicked ass as well. Also worthy. This IS what photojournalism is all about.

Congrats to both photojouralists. You do us proud.
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Allen Murabayashi, Photographer
New York | NY | USA | Posted: 12:22 AM on 04.08.08
->> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUUQi1ooEAs

I don't think you can argue a position without considering the context of the image. For example, take Arko Datta's World Press Photo:

http://tinyurl.com/54t66e

It's a tremendous photo compositionally. The woman in anguish, and arm moving into the frame. But it's significant because it represents 300,000 stories that were affected in a single event.

Similarly, with Latif's image, consider that the Burmese government was cracking down like crazy by first killing buddhist monks in a society that revered the monks, then by cracking down on their citizens and the press.

In the picture, I see a horde of people running from the police. That's marginally interesting. But I also see a soldier hovering over a photographer that is struggling to shoot a photo. We know because of the video and the witnesses that the soldier just shot Nagai in the back at point blank range. And we also know from the video that Nagai's first instinct after he was shot, was to lift his camera, literally with his last ounce of energy. The solider looked at him to make sure he was down for maybe one second. And after Nagai tries once to lift his camera, his is unable to muster the strength to lift it again.

Latif captured an incredible moment because it illustrates: 1) the brazenness of the military, 2) is illustrative of the huge number of people that were affected, and 3) shows a member of the press corp literally dying as he tries to capture the news because he believed that showing what was going on in burma was the most important thing to do that day.

Best composed? No. But lacking emotion or importance? I strongly disagree. When a government suppresses its people through corporeal harm and kills members of the media to prevent the story from getting out, it's important.
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Michael Fischer, Photographer
Spencer | Ia | USA | Posted: 12:33 AM on 04.08.08
->> Allen,
I should have mentioned two things that made me shiver. You mentioned the soldier hovering over Nagai....That was the first thing.

The other thing that scared the sh*t out of me are the empty sandals to the side of him. Someone ran literally out of their shoes to get away from the soldiers. That's powerful..VERY powerful. What a symbol for the fear and repression of the government,

I'm big on expressions like most of us when I shoot. But the soldier and the empty shoes scared me. Powerful shot, but you had to look to see the story because the faces weren't easily seen. But when you do look at it..and realize..

I'd be really proud to have hit the shutter on that one..Pulitzer or no Pulitzer.
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Brad Penner, Photographer
Neptune | NJ | USA | Posted: 12:47 AM on 04.08.08
->> Tom,

With all due respect, who cares?

I, like Mr. Seale, have kept my thoughts about your nonsensical crap to myself over the past few months, but this just takes the cake.

First of all, the Pulitzer, like any other contest, is just that: a contest. Sure, it may be more prestigious than other contests, but when it comes right down to it, it's all subjective, because it's a contest judged by human beings. All of the finalists were great, and any one of them could have won the Prize without a second thought. Ultimately it came down to who was making the decision, and I'll even go as far as to say it came down to what mood the decision-makers were in that day.

When you work your way onto the Pulitzer Prize Board, you can offer your two cents. Somehow I don't see that day arriving any time soon. If you don't like the judges' decisions, don't enter the contest. Problem solved.

-b.

PS: Next time you want to say something, maybe you should have a fifth-grader proofread your post. "Should of?" How can anyone take you seriously?
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Tom Ervin, Photographer, Assistant
Palm Beach | FL | USA | Posted: 1:01 AM on 04.08.08
->> 1.....Robert I wasn't attacking Mr. Latif. Mr. Latif image was disturbing but I thought there was something better.

2....I don't believe Pulitzers are won by captions alone. A strong picture is essential. My opinion the judges made a mistake.

3....... Robert In 1989 a 52 yr old St. Louis furniture salesman named Ron Olshwange won a Pulizter Prize in spot news of a fireman trying to revive a child caught in a fire . My point is Robert you don't need to speak 6 languages and travel around the world to dangerous places to win the Pulitzer. And speaking 6 languages and traveling around the world to dangerous places shouldn't give you the inside track for a pulitzer.

4.... Maybe someday I will meet Mr Latif. It would be an honor. Without photographers like him the truth would never be told. And if he feels I offended him I will apologize

5..... Robert I don't believe we ever met that you would know so much about me or my family to make such comments.
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Tom Ervin, Photographer, Assistant
Palm Beach | FL | USA | Posted: 1:26 AM on 04.08.08
->> PS....Maybe we all forgot that the Prize is about the IMAGE and not the photographer. You can put any spin on it you want but It's kind of sad to see a group of people celebrating a Pulitzer win. Then on the same page the image of horror that won them the Pulitzer.
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David Meyer, Photographer
Orlando | FL | USA | Posted: 2:02 AM on 04.08.08
->> While I don't agree with Tom's assessment of the Latif's photo, I most certainly defend his right to express that opinion.
I find it extremely distasteful that some responded with personal attacks upon Tom and his character. Some of those moving on Tom are apparently esteemed members of this community.
I won't pretend that I know these people personally. I don't, and I'm hesitant to draw conclusions from comments on a internet message board. Unfortunately, your ad hominem attacks on a colleague leaves me with a dour impression of your own character and professionalism.
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Danny Gawlowski, Photographer
Bellingham | WA | USA | Posted: 2:32 AM on 04.08.08
->> Jeff:

Not to be too picky, but I think that, when referring to Preston Gannaway's editor, Dan Habib, you typed "his editor." I think you might have meant to say "her editor."

Preston is an amazing photographer and an amazing person. Her work is truly inspiring. Congratulations, Preston!

She's also a ss.com member:
http://www.sportsshooter.com/members.html?id=3686
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Maxwell Yedor, Student/Intern, Photographer
Ventura | CA | USA | Posted: 3:15 AM on 04.08.08
->> I'll throw in my $0.02 here, the photo does nothing for me. There are several things stick out. First is that it does not really tell a story, had I not read the caption I would assume it was just a reporter that got knocked down durring a riot, if it takes a caption to figure out what's going on and why I should look at the photo, then what's the point of the photo? The Pulitzer for writing should be awarded for storries that make in impact, the Pulitzer for photography should be awarded to a photo that stands on it's own, not an allright photo with a compelling caption.

I realize that the Pulitzer isn't about technicaly great photographs, instead it's about photos with impact, photos that change the world. Does the Latif image do either of those? In my opinion no, it does not. Had I seen that image in a newspaper I would have more than likely just kept going and paid no attention to it, infact I mite have seen it, and just kept reading, I don't know, I've seen millions of images that I forgot about almost as soon as I saw them. Maybe I'm strange, but I never read captions unless the photo grabs me, so for readers like me who would have skipped this photo alltogether, what is the impact? What will it change? I can think of many Pulitzer prize winning photos and photo-stories that made me stop and say "wow" this just isn't one of them.

I also almost agree with Tom about celebrating the win. On one hand that meens a respected group of people has chosen you as the best in the world, on the other hand had that videographer not died you'd have been just another guy shooting assignments in a dangerous place. I think I'll just stick to studio work and motorsports so I don't have to face that moral quagmire.
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Derrick den Hollander, Photographer
Melbourne | VIC | AUSTRALIA | Posted: 3:48 AM on 04.08.08
->> My sincere congrats to Latif for winning the contest. Enough said.
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Mark J. Terrill, Photographer
Simi Valley | CA | USA | Posted: 4:09 AM on 04.08.08
->> I worked with Adrees for a few years when he lived here in Los Angeles. He's a passionate top notch photographer and one of the most competitive people I know.

I too was a little surprised that his picture won the Pulitzer. There's no doubt it's a compelling picture and, if I know Adrees, I know that he probably risked his life to make it, but I felt that there were more compelling pictures from last year.

I can't say that I've ever understood contests. I pretty much gave up trying when a Monk walking the side of a wall won best sports picture in a major contest a few years back.

Nonetheless, he won and deserves nothing but respect.
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Shaun Ward, Photographer
Perth | Tayside | Scotland | Posted: 5:14 AM on 04.08.08
->> Anyway here is a link to the story behind the winning image

http://blogs.reuters.com/photo/2008/04/07/the-story-behind-the-pictures/
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James Madelin, Photographer
AKL | Auckland | New Zealand | Posted: 5:30 AM on 04.08.08
->> > Tell me why Latif image should of won the Pulitzer Prize? Be SPECIFIC in your answer.

before i get into specifics, i think you perhaps meant to say "should have.." anyway, you asked for specifics.

1 - the photographer risked his life both to be able to take the photo and to be in the country at all.

2 - the photo shows an extremely important moment. more journalists have died over the last couple of years than ever before but this was the first time the world* saw a courageous journalist dying for nothing more than being a journalist.

3 - the photo is technically solid; with bullets flying a 135mm lens away (eg. not far) the exposure is bang on and the framing is also excellent.

4 - three reasons is quite enough.

*i'm absolutely staggered by the comments above that seem to indicate that this is the first time some of you have seen latif's photo. it ran all over the world on front pages of many newspapers and on at least one of the biggest international news websites (
http://www.bbcnews.com).

of course any competition is subjective so you can always argue that the photo that won should have come second and vice versa; that's asinine.
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Wally Nell, Photographer
CAIRO | EG | EGYPT | Posted: 7:16 AM on 04.08.08
->> Perhaps the thing that typified 2007, was and still is the corrosion of freedom of the press. This picture tells that story and it sends the message to the rest of the world that they need to recognize the issue with fair access and freedom of the press. We can go back to many threads on SS boards the past few months/years, and just read of so many issues regarding press freedom. This picture hits home in many ways. It might not be the most 'spectacular' image in the sense of color, or light, or whatever; but it tells a heck of a story. Not only that, it tells it to the rest of the world, the ones outside the media world; that the consequences of the erosion of freedom of the press could result in physical death of those involved, those who have the courage to pursue truth in the face of adversity.
My 10 piastres.
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Jeff Brehm, Photographer, Photo Editor
Charlotte | NC | USA | Posted: 8:23 AM on 04.08.08
->> I think this discussion specifically and this message board in general would be better served if those who disagree with Tom's post showed some class and professional courtesy by offering their opinions instead of attacking him personally.

If you don't like what he says, don't read his posts.
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Chuck Liddy, Photographer
Durham | NC | USA | Posted: 8:57 AM on 04.08.08
->> come on folks. it's something most all of us have dealt with. it's a contest. as a couple of other posts have alluded to.....sit and watch the judging of any photo contest, whether it be the local camera club, the nppa poy or even the esteemed pulitzers. you will often be astounded and amazed at some of the photos selected. that IS the nature of a contest. take the same five final photos, change the judges and VIOLA!! you'll have a new group of winners and whiners. tempest in a teapot. although it's the pulitzer, that's just the way things go. maybe if tom hadn't used mr. latif's name four times in his post and just would have said "image" he could have been spared some of the harsh comments. who knows. as someone who used to get TOTALLY worked up over contests take if from me, it's counter productive to try and second guess the judges (which I have) and bitch about the results (oh yeah been there done that) after the contest is over. it is truly a waste of time and energy.
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Jason Frizzelle, Photographer
Greenville | NC | USA | Posted: 9:59 AM on 04.08.08
->> "Maybe someday I will meet Mr Latif. It would be an honor. Without photographers like him the truth would never be told."

Tom

I think you answered your own question.
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Dave Amorde, Photographer
Lake Forest | CA | USA | Posted: 2:30 PM on 04.08.08
->> In an sense, I'm sure Tom is right - there were many more compelling images taken during this event.

Unfortunately for us those images were destroyed, and the photographers severely "disiplined" or killed for their trouble.

This photo certainly doesn't reach out and grab you. In a way, that is one of its most endearing qualities. Too often I have seen photos so spectacular that the discussion of the image drowns out any discussion of the MOMENT.

But this photo makes to look deeper. It makes you study it. It forces you actively examine what is going on. IT DRAWS YOU IN (Side note: It is unfortunate that a discussion board designed by and built for communicators doesn't support simple basics like bold and italic text)

Bottom line: Every reason given why this image shouldn't win is exactly, in my own humble opinion, why the image deserved to win.
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Jeff Brehm, Photographer, Photo Editor
Charlotte | NC | USA | Posted: 3:00 PM on 04.08.08
->> Dave:

I'm sorry, but I can't accept your argument. To me, that's like saying I should choose to listen to a song I hate because the chords or beat or voices I find disagreeable won't hide some redeeming value I missed. Or that I should buy the ugliest car I can find because that way, the lack of esthetic appeal won't blind me or others to its good qualities.

To tell a story, you have to capture the attention of the audience. Yes, this photo tells a compelling story. But I don't find the way it tells it to be as effective as a "Wow!" photo would.
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Damian Mulinix, Photographer
Long Beach | wa | usa | Posted: 4:37 PM on 04.08.08
->> I still find it interesting how folks can blast this guy for having an opinion. He didn't like the photo, thought something else should of won? Big deal. As my grandmother used to say, "To each, his own..."

Anyway, on a better note, I wanted to add that I had the pleasure to judge Ms. Gannaway's picture story in the monthly regional clip contest last year. It was an easy winner as it was a particularly well-executed and heartfelt piece of work! I've thought about the photos many times since, even before it was honored in all these other competitions.

-DKM
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Robert Seale, Photographer
Houston | TX | USA | Posted: 4:53 PM on 04.08.08
->> Instant Feedback made to Tom Ervin's posts:

Category Percentage Number
Informative 11.9% 60 (from 50 members)
Funny 6.75% 34 (from 25 members)
Huh? 62.7% 316 (from 197 members)
Off Topic 5.36% 27 (from 22 members)
Inappropriate 13.29% 67 (from 49 members)
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lori shepler, Photographer
los angeles | ca | | Posted: 5:13 PM on 04.08.08
->> I think Andrees' picture was very worthy of the Pulitzer. How could a photojournalist getting shot in the chest and killed by a soldier during a protest not have emotion and impact?? He captured "the moment" of the event and the importance was conveyed to the world.
Even though I think we deserved to win with our fire coverage and Karen Tapia's firemen trapped in the flames picture, I respect the choice of the judges and congratulate him for the award!
Lori
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Tom Ervin, Photographer, Assistant
Palm Beach | FL | USA | Posted: 5:46 PM on 04.08.08
->> Robert it looks like I need to be more informative.

Good work !

Tom
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