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Peter Madia, Student/Intern, Photo Editor
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Pittsburgh | PA | USA | Posted: 8:59 PM on 09.26.07 |
->> I just started using Soundslides this year for sports. I was wondering if you guys could give me any comments or advice. I use Garageband to create the sound, and I'm still learning how to use it.
Here is one from the Pitt-Grambling State game...
http://apps.pittnews.com/pages/photos/PittGrambling/publish_to_web/
Thanks,
Pete |
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James Lee, Photographer
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Fairfax | VA | USA | Posted: 10:10 PM on 09.26.07 |
| ->> Peter, Looks good. My biggest suggestion would be to try to use some ambient sound to tell the story of the game. Think about all the ambient sounds from the crowd to the announcers to the beer vendors. Slideshows can be used for much more than a venue to show more images and IMHO, only good images that contribute to the story should be used and the audio often drives that. Also, I'd be careful about the number of sequences you use. I view them like a fisheye lens, to be used only where warranted and sparingly. In terms of editing that ambient look at this free application that should do all you need to do: http://audacity.sourceforge.net/ |
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David Meyer, Photographer
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Orlando | FL | USA | Posted: 1:51 AM on 09.27.07 |
->> Pete,
I agree with James' comments wholeheartedly. I did like the fact that you paced the sequences differently than the rest of the images, though. I think that sets them apart. Many of the other Soundslides presentations I've seen have a static, monotonous pace.
I'm all for trying new things, but I'm not sure the music you selected/created matches the visual content. One potential route - think NFL Films and big, brassy marches. Probably cliche, but you get the idea.
It's an interesting/frustrating time for Pitt football. There are quite a few angles you could take in future work. I look forward to seeing it.
Best of luck,
A frustrated Pitt fan |
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Rodrigo Pena, Photographer
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Palm Desert | CA | USA | Posted: 12:29 AM on 09.28.07 |
->> I'm not sure this is the answer that you are seeking, but here is an example of the audio slideshows that we produce every week. I must first describe the circumstances so that you'll understand why we do what we do.
The photographers are asked to provide three photos by 9:30 pm for newspaper deadline. With games that start at 7pm, most of us shoot the first half, go to our cars to download, tone, caption and transmit our images back to the main office. After transmitting, we head back out to the field to get any reaction, jubilation associated with the end of the game. We head back out to our cars and provide 18-22 toned and captioned images for an audio slideshow that is produced on the spot (often in our cars) and transmitted back to the main office by 11pm. As you can see by this somewhat hectic schedule, there is little time to record and edit sound. Therefore we are supplied with audio files prior to the game. We use these audio files for the slideshow.
Here is a link to an audio slideshow:
http://www.hsgametime.com/inlandsoutherncalifornia/multimedia/slideshow/200.../
Even though the audio was not recorded on site, you may be able to use this as an example of what audio might work for your future shows.
Best wishes, Rodrigo Pena |
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Joel Philippsen, Photographer
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Columbus | IN | USA | Posted: 1:05 AM on 09.28.07 |
->> Rodrigo,
Maybe I'm the only one that might find this unacceptable... (and please set me straight if that is so) but when working for a newspaper isn't it your primary job to record an accurate representation of what you are covering? I find it unbelievable that you would use sound that wasn't recorded at the game and pass it off as if it had been recorded there. (Especially when you are using real crowd sounds and such... I can understand using music for such a production) Don't people raise their eyebrows when the same sound is playing while they watch a show from a totally different game? And yes I understand the time restraints that come into play with producing a slideshow. Is this common practice??? Not where I'm from. |
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Chris Stanley, Photographer
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Lansdale | PA | USA | Posted: 7:03 AM on 09.28.07 |
| ->> I agree with Joel. Though it may just seem like background noise to complement the photos, it is really part of the reporting. Maybe the band didn't play the song in your audio at the game...they'll know. |
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Douglas Tesner, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Traverse City | MI | USA | Posted: 11:21 AM on 09.28.07 |
| ->> I also agree with Joel. I don't mind the band music, we all know that was not recorded at the game. I do think it would be a misrepresentation to add game sounds not from the game you are photographing (pre-recorded sound). |
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Rodrigo Pena, Photographer
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Palm Desert | CA | USA | Posted: 11:39 AM on 09.28.07 |
->> Yes, I forgot to mention that we usually have a disclaimer at the end of the audio slideshow. Normally we have a line in the credit's page that says that the audio was gathered elsewhere. This disclaimer was accidently left out of my credit frame. Here is another slideshow to that shows the proper disclaimer. What do you guys think of the audio with the disclaimer? I'm curious. I can't say I'm completely sold on the previously recorded sound track idea. Would you folks prefer to hear no audio or the previously recorded audio with the disclaimer at the end? Once again, normally our slideshows have the disclaimer but accidently got left out of my credit frame. In my previous slideshows from last year, the credit frame had the disclaimer, but we got a new credit frame this year. The credit frames, title frames and the audio files are made for us. Then they are used in our slideshows.
Here is another slideshow from a co-worker created on the same night at a different game that includes the disclaimer:
http://www.hsgametime.com/inlandsoutherncalifornia/multimedia/slideshow/200.../
Thanks for your feedback guys and Peter, sorry for the accidental hi-jacking of your thread. |
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