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Kodak implodes Building 9, where paper was once produced
Grover Sanschagrin, Photo Editor, Photographer
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San Francisco | CA | USA | Posted: 6:30 PM on 06.30.07 |
->> If you're still hoping that digital (and perhaps the Internet) is all just a fad, here's another sign:
http://www.wcax.com/global/story.asp?s=6732171
"Photographic paper was made for decades in Building 9, a facility no longer needed after Kodak's shift to digital products."
I just saw the video on the tv news tonight - but haven't been able to find it online yet.
They're imploding another building tomorrow too. |
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Kevin Leas, Photographer
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Rochester | NY | USA | Posted: 7:12 PM on 06.30.07 |
->> Numerous videos are available - check rochesterdandc.com, 13wham.com, 10nbc.com, just to name a few. That'll give you a nice range of different angles and lengths.
The whole event was just one giant commercial for Kodak's new printers, with massive banners on numerous buildings, multiple printers set up for printing photos of the implosion, etc. Still, it was pretty sweet to see a building drop like that, and it's always fun to get to chat with some fellow SS.com members on a nice sunny Saturday morning. |
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Grover Sanschagrin, Photo Editor, Photographer
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San Francisco | CA | USA | Posted: 7:12 PM on 06.30.07 |
| ->> Hi Greg. Sorry - I am new here. |
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Greg Francis, Photographer
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Rochester | NY | USA | Posted: 7:19 PM on 06.30.07 |
->> Hi Grover,
No problemo, Newbies are welcome.
;-) |
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Paul W Gillespie, Photographer
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Annapolis | MD | USA | Posted: 10:33 PM on 06.30.07 |
->> From the looks of Jerome's images it looks like they got that actor from the crazy Kodak promo http://youtube.com/watch?v=Sz6XjXu-oT8 to do something. Maybe they will post it to youtube when it is done. That Kodak promo is a crackup.
And as far as Grover's post, is there a way we can find out who sponsored him so this kind of thing does not happen again? ;)
Paul |
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Kevin Leas, Photographer
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Rochester | NY | USA | Posted: 10:57 PM on 06.30.07 |
| ->> Yes, that is the same game....Steve Toms (spelling?) is his name. It was certainly interesting - they had large video monitors showing that there was an old inkjet printer left in the building, and he went on a rant about how he hated that thing and wanted to blow it up. So he jumps on the massive ceremonial switch, and....nothing. "Out of ink again?" he screams....finally, after another countdown, that building goes down. |
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Jerome Davis, Photographer
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Rochester | NY | USA | Posted: 11:12 PM on 06.30.07 |
->> You can see the video of the implosion here:
http://tinyurl.com/3xozo5
Yes that is Steve Tom, the crazy actor from the Kodak video. |
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Jeff Kowalsky, Photographer
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West Bloomfield | MI | United States | Posted: 12:59 AM on 07.01.07 |
->> I watched the video. it seems like a lot of misplaced anger against ink jet printers.
Kodak's big mistake in loosing the pro market is when they could not produce a film to compete with Fuji 800. They developed a multi speed film that did not look good at any asa. |
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JohnPaul Greco, Photographer, Assistant
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Milwaukee | WI | USA | Posted: 2:35 AM on 07.01.07 |
->> Wow...who is left now, who still produces paper..?
I was considering taking up film shooting, & darkroom printing again..
Unbelievable! :-(
JP |
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Steven E. Frischling, Photographer
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The World | | | Posted: 7:38 AM on 07.01.07 |
->> John
Ilford and Agfa |
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Greg Francis, Photographer
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Rochester | NY | USA | Posted: 9:22 AM on 07.01.07 |
->> I am sure Kodak is still making paper, but they are decommissioning their oldest manufacturing facilities.
Jeff, funny you bring up Fuji 800. In 1995 when I worked at a Daily paper, my father visited. In the darkroom, I opened a kitchen cabinet full of Fuji 800 bricks that were staple on most assignments.
My father, a Kodak dept. head, got back to Rochester and emailed the CEO at the time, saying, my son is a full-time photog. who shoots a dozen rolls a day of the Fuji 800, why doesn't Kodak have an equivalent.
The response my father received from R&D said Kodak was aware of the Fuji 800, but didn't feel it was a good product and something Kodak needed to create an exact competitor.
Like I said, I was shooting a dozen rolls a day, on average. |
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JohnPaul Greco, Photographer, Assistant
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Milwaukee | WI | USA | Posted: 10:13 AM on 07.01.07 |
->> Yep,...and you can push Fuji 800 to 3200, and still get great results.. I guess there was no need for Kodak to release a film with so much exposure latitude..? Wow! ...what a great marketing move! :-p
JP |
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Kevin Leas, Photographer
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Rochester | NY | USA | Posted: 10:45 AM on 07.01.07 |
->> At my first retail job here in Rochester, we only stocked Fuji film higher than 400. Whenever a customer asked why, we gave them our honest opinion - that the high speed film that we processed right there in the lab was much better from Fuji than from Kodak. More than once, we were cussed out, yelled at, lectured, and walked out on.
We also had a lot of fun telling people who said they "want to support the local economy" that Kodak film wasn't being made in America anymore, but Fuji was. That sure got them scratching their heads.
Oh, and Kodak blew up another building today. Should be plenty of Rochester news websites with the footage by now. |
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Christian Fuchs, Photo Editor, Photographer
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Washington | DC | USA | Posted: 11:25 AM on 07.01.07 |
| ->> I wonder if any is documenting the various implosions on Kodachrome, for old times sake? |
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Jon Malis, Photographer
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Piqua | OH | USA | Posted: 11:45 AM on 07.01.07 |
->> Steve (and John) --
Actually, Agfa stopped making B&W paper about a year or so ago - right now, Ilford's the only "big one" left, though lately I've been having great luck working with Oriental, Bergger and Kentmere papers.
For color negative printing, it looks like Kodak is still making paper, or at least there's a lot for sale from the usual outlets. Though honestly, if I do any color hand printing, it's all Fuji in my studio.
ok, back to missing my Agfa 111 - nothing like printing half a project on that stuff and then Agfa pulls it out from under you... trying new papers felt like I was going through withdrawl. |
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Kevin Leas, Photographer
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Rochester | NY | USA | Posted: 2:14 PM on 07.01.07 |
->> Christian - not sure about Kodachrome, but they did have someone there shooting Vision2 motion picture film. Believe me, I was thoroughly surprised when I saw an actual film camera set up there.
Oh, and I believe there was someone shooting stereoscopic with two 35mm bodies. There's some info on Richard Mackson's blog: http://richardmackson.1000nerds.kodak.com/default.asp?item=636710 - there's more info on the main blog page, too. |
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Vasiliy Baziuk, Photographer
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Rochester | NY | USA | Posted: 12:45 PM on 07.10.07 |
->> I can't stand that guy with the white hair in the Kodak propaganda video.... he is too full of him self both in that video and on location at the implosion site at Kodak!
anyways, check out my frame by frame of the implosion of Kodak Building 9 http://www.sportsshooter.com/vasiliy/kodak/ |
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Vasiliy Baziuk, Photographer
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Rochester | NY | USA | Posted: 1:16 PM on 07.10.07 |
->> Kodak is still one of those companies that is behind times.... they have a ton of patens just sitting behind the walls of their buildings and doing nothing with them.
I'm sure if George Eastman was still alive he would have jumped on the digital revolution way before anyone else did..... just as he did with flexible film.
The issue I had with Kodak was when I used to buy film from one retailer just up the street from Kodak Park... where all of that stuff was made.... their products had to be shipped back to Rochester. That was absurd to me.... but that is the type of thinking that happens at Kodak.
Through out the human history all empires fall down eventually and Kodak is the latest example.
If I'm not mistaking, Kodak has had several CEOs over the last few years... they come in do nothing for their time being but give them selves a lucrative raise and lay off a bunch of guys making $10 an hour, and a year later leave the company. But this isn't happening just at Kodak. It happens elsewhere too. That is probably contributed to their downfall as well. |
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Worth Canoy, Photographer
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High Point | NC | USA | Posted: 1:52 PM on 07.10.07 |
->> I think it's a little sad.
I started working in photofinishing in 1982, and consumed hundreds if not thousands of rolls of Kodak paper in our lab.
Years ago we were hired to photograph the grand opening of Konica's paper producing facility near Burlington NC. It was a huge deal, Japanese execs, the NC Governor, food and SAKE.
I still have my wooden sake bowls/cups.
In the last year or two, that one has shut down too. The building still stands, but for how long? It was built to produce paper, so who knows what can be done with it now. |
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