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Robert Beck--Brilliant.
Matt Cashore, Photographer
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South Bend | IN | USA | Posted: 9:19 AM on 04.13.07 |
->> I suppose it's appropriate to use the phrase: "You Da Man!"
http://tinyurl.com/2rutaz
A photo that breaks the rules (among other things) yet tells the story perfectly.
Wow. |
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Eric Sucar, Photographer
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Freehold | NJ | USA | Posted: 9:36 AM on 04.13.07 |
| ->> great shot! |
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Eric Sucar, Photographer
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Freehold | NJ | USA | Posted: 9:42 AM on 04.13.07 |
| ->> though if I was out there I would have kicked the ball to the right a little more (making for a perfect opening) then find a nice piece of rough to fluff the ball upon... winter rules! |
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Bob Nichols, Photographer
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Tipton | IN | USA | Posted: 10:15 AM on 04.13.07 |
->> I also loved the shot and e-mailed Mr. Beck about it yesterday. Here is our e-mail exchange:
Mr. Beck, while sitting here admiring your cover shot of Tiger's miscue, I was wondering about "peak action" as discussed on Sportsshooter many times. I am guessing that the shot used was not the first in the sequence but one of several motordriven shots. Am I correct? I am asking because of all of the discusion on technology. This shot might not have existed without a fast motordrive. Sometimes the best equipment does give someone an edge.
Also, could you tell me what lens was used on this photo.
Thank you. Bob Nichols
And his reply:
70-200...It was shot with a motor drive but, since we shoot raw and jpg at the same time it negates the speed of the drive. You will only get the ball in one frame at most. Timing is critical. I shot that a smidge late to get the explosion of the strike. Too early or right at impact and you miss that...And the ball as well. That was the first shot of the sequence.
RB
I e-mailed back my admiration for his skill and explained that is why many of us read SI and drool. |
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Michael Granse, Photographer
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Urbana | IL | USA | Posted: 10:23 AM on 04.13.07 |
->> It is nice to see a thread about a photo that "breaks all the rules" and have it NOT be an ethical rule that was broken. This is one very cool photo!
It is sad to see Tiger Woods golfing like me, though. |
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Jack Gruber, Photographer
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San Francisco | CA | USA | Posted: 10:31 AM on 04.13.07 |
->> That is an amazing photo. And it is shot on one of the toughest holes with all the crowds and ropes.
Yep, Beck is amazing. |
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Robert Hanashiro, Photographer
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Los Angeles | CA | | Posted: 11:06 AM on 04.13.07 |
->> THAT is what good sports photography is all about!
Great moment, great action, tells the story ... perfect. |
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Darren Whitley, Photographer
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Maryville | MO | USA | Posted: 11:17 AM on 04.13.07 |
| ->> In my opinion, that might be one of the most timeless covers I've seen of Sports Illustrated. It will have impact for many years to come. |
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Corey Perrine, Photographer
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Hudson | NH | USA | Posted: 11:37 AM on 04.13.07 |
| ->> Blown away. Wow. |
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Dennis Wierzbicki, Photographer
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Miami | FL | USA | Posted: 11:38 AM on 04.13.07 |
->> As I was watching this sports moment on TV, I wondered if anyone had captured the moment appropriately, then I tried to envision where the perfect position to get the shot would have been and then what the shot might look like, and then I see this thread, and the image, and Robert Beck pretty much nailed it. All I can say is WOW.
I also love Beck's quote "since we shoot raw and jpg at the same time it negates the speed of the drive. You will only get the ball in one frame at most. Timing is critical." This is even true when you're NOT shooting RAW and jpeg, and is almost always misunderstood when people see a shot like this (or a bat-on-ball, or puck-in-goalie glove, etc) and say "Heck, all you have to do is hold down the shutter with one of those 8.5 fps cameras and ANYONE can get a shot like this".
The ball is in frame for such a short period of time relative to the shutter speed and the number of frames per second that without great timing, like Mr. Beck shows here, it's unlikely you'll get shots like these. |
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Dianna Russell, Photographer
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Springfield | MO | USA | Posted: 11:43 AM on 04.13.07 |
| ->> Ah, yes. Masters indeed. Perfect. |
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Jon Gardiner, Photographer
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Durham | NC | USA | Posted: 12:03 PM on 04.13.07 |
| ->> For those interested in seeing the "full frame", check out the sipictures.com site under the April 16 edition folder. I like being able to see how the photographer chooses to make the image in particular frames. |
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Jason Sipes, Photographer
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Altoona | PA | USA | Posted: 12:27 PM on 04.13.07 |
->> How many frames per second are the SI guys getting. Is it the same for all sports?
I have a completely different perspective on what they do that is different from what I and many others do on the newspaper level. |
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Nadine Redd, Photographer
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Kansas City | KS | USA | Posted: 9:00 AM on 04.14.07 |
| ->> Excellent |
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Walter Calahan, Photographer
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Westminster | MD | USA | Posted: 9:40 AM on 04.14.07 |
->> But can Robert do quadratic equations in his head backwards?
Fabulous image. And to think he did it on the first frame, not at 10 fps! |
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Jeff Martin, Photographer
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wellington | OH | usa | Posted: 9:52 AM on 04.14.07 |
->> Makes me wonder why I even bother to tote my camera around....sigh, or should I say SI
Great shot |
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Walter Calahan, Photographer
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Westminster | MD | USA | Posted: 10:31 AM on 04.14.07 |
->> Jeff
You can make the same significant image in your part of the world that reaches your readership with the same impact BY toting your camera.
Don't compare yourself to others. Everyone slips their skirt on one leg at a time (Grin). |
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Rene Mireles, Photographer
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Holland | MI | USA | Posted: 11:15 AM on 04.14.07 |
| ->> Great Shot.. |
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Robert Beck, Photographer
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Carlsbad | CA | USA | Posted: 12:24 PM on 04.14.07 |
| ->> Thank you all for your kind comments. Mr. Hanashiro has commisioned me to write a piece for the upcoming newsletter. It is a six figure deal. All to the right of the decimal point. I'll reveal the whole sordid story then....You know, closing my eyes, crossing my fingers then stealing Fred Vuich's cards when he wasn't looking. By the way, yesterday I toted a Lomo around Disneyland and today I will tote a camera to Bub's waterpolo games. |
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Phil Hawkins, Photographer
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Fresno | ca | usa | Posted: 2:58 PM on 04.14.07 |
->> But, what was the result of the shot? Did he make the green? Fairway? Another rough? How did he end up on the hole? Just curious.
Not that it matters to Tiger, but how much did that iron cost? Us mere mortals would probably cry breaking what is certainly more club than most of us can afford.
Phil
(PS: Can you tell I don't play golf?) |
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Dennis Wierzbicki, Photographer
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Miami | FL | USA | Posted: 3:55 PM on 04.14.07 |
->> I don't recall how he did on the hole, but he made it onto the fairway with this shot. Apparently he anticipated breaking his club, as it was discussed by the announcers prior to the shot that he had "chosen a club he could do without for the rest of the round" although they also correctly added that since the club had been broken in play (rather than in anger, for example) he could replace it if he chose to, as though Tiger has a sag-wagon of sorts following him full of new clubs.
This shot must be a "trick" type shot players at this level have in their arsenal, like being able to hit opposite-handed with the club face upside down when they can't take a full normal swing (I once saw this when I was caddying a pro event as a teenager) |
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Richard Heathcote, Photographer
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London | . | UK | Posted: 5:13 PM on 04.14.07 |
->> If you have worked a US Masters then you will appreciate how hard it is to get into a position when you get a clean angle on something like this....
There is an element of luck, getting the angle,no TV, no 'patrons' but the light was very difficult when this shot happened, the tree was so much brighter than Tiger and the speed he hit the shot. The shaft recoiled back out of the frame very quickly.
Someone was going the get a really good angle on it, but it's good to see it was someone who had the skills to do the moment justice.
Nice cover, do you think there has been an SI cover before where you don't see the subject's face.... |
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Mike O'Bryon, Photographer
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Ft. Lauderdale | FL | USA | Posted: 7:58 PM on 04.14.07 |
->> it's a pretty inexpensive repair for Tiger ( or anyone...) a steel reshaft...regrip and check loft & lie....shouldn't be more that 30-40 bucks...actual materials are less than 25...X100 True Temper Dynamic Gold shaft and a Golf Pride Tour Cord grip ( turned upside-down )...
--Mike
oh yeah....great frame Robert |
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Robert Beck, Photographer
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Carlsbad | CA | USA | Posted: 8:44 PM on 04.14.07 |
| ->> Replacing a club for those guys is a non-factor monetarily speaking and he could have, as mentioned, replaced it if he wished. I don't think he did during the round. He hit that shot to the edge of the lake fronting the green and parred the hole. |
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Jonathan Palmer, Photographer
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Decatur | AL | United States | Posted: 10:34 PM on 04.14.07 |
| ->> I don't think you can replace a club during a round. You are allowed to play with 14 clubs and if you break one then you will have to wait until the next round. But other than the peak moment, right place, right time, and years of photography expertise this photo also shows the great technique taught by golf instructors. My father was a golf instructor and he always taught me to stay behind the ball when I made contact. One analogy he used was to imagine opening a door and closing it. Golfers have a tendancy to move their weight to their left foot after swinging through the shot, called reverse pivoting. In this case there was no way Tiger could have. Way to stay behind the ball. Great photo Robert. |
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Walt Middleton, Photographer, Assistant
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Columbus | OH | USA | Posted: 10:39 PM on 04.14.07 |
| ->> Great photo!!! |
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Thomas E. Witte, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Fashion Heights | OH | USA | Posted: 11:44 PM on 04.14.07 |
->> Robert, can't wait to hear the story behind it.
Dennis, you're completely right, it's a shot they've mentally rehearsed a thousand times but rarely ever get a chance to try.
I used to carry an oooooooold MacGregor 1-iron that I'd use for drives or second shots of about 270 yards. I kept it specifically because the backside of it was flat and nearly completely vertical. It worked great the four times in my life I had to use it backwards (left handed).
Unfortunately my beloved club now lies at the bottom of a lake after losing a $100 bet on the ninth at Shaker Run... Contrary to what he says, I was NOT aiming at my buddy when I did it. |
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Richard Heathcote, Photographer
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London | . | UK | Posted: 4:06 AM on 04.15.07 |
->> Off topic, but you can 'repair' a broken club during a round if you break it in the action of playing the shot. Not if you break it on purpose, and it must be the same club repaired not a similar replacement....
The other significance of the photo is that it is one of 2 shots of the tournament, Tiger managed to get the ball down in front of the green and par the hole, which is the hardest on the course to keep him in contention. (the other was his approach to the 13th green for eagle) |
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Chuong Doan, Photographer
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Kansas City | MO | USA | Posted: 6:26 PM on 04.26.07 |
->> What a great shot and story. Thanks for sharing Robert!
If you go to Getty and search for Timothy Clary (the AFP photog who was shooting over Beck's shoulder), you can see his images of the same swing. Clary was maybe a couple hundredths of a second late and thus no ball in frame. Having more FPS would not have mad a difference. It was the initial timing that counted the most. |
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Ken Levine, Photographer
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Midvale | UT | USA | Posted: 7:00 PM on 04.26.07 |
->> To all, yes it is a brillant shot. But the important thing to take away from all of this appreciation of this image, is that Robert has been doing this for a long time, and has been making daring, and unreal images for decades. Some of my best memories are shooting alongside RB at Kings hockey games, football games, whatever, and watching a master at work. He KNOWS the games and the players. He anticipates the action before it happens. He sees the image before it appears. He is a wonderful photographer, a better person than one could imagine, and I must admit to having the pleasure of calling him my friend.
Ken |
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Michael Fischer, Photographer
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Spencer | Ia | USA | Posted: 9:11 PM on 04.26.07 |
->> It was the Masters all right... and the best Master had his eye up to the viewfinder and knew when to make the image.
RB, that is a truly incredible shot. The Kuhuna is right. That is what great photojournalism is all about.
Witte, why am I NOT surprised, dude? :) |
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Andy Bronson, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Roseburg | OR | USA | Posted: 10:26 PM on 04.26.07 |
| ->> Great shot and great editing by SI staff! As Beck said, Tiger didn't win. The editor made a great call for a cover shot. Heck, the photo BEGGED FOR IT! |
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