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PHOTOGRAPHER ARRESTED
Marcus Yam, Photographer
Buffalo | NY | USA | Posted: 1:12 AM on 02.14.07
->> Hey guys,
I just wanted to share this information. Nick Adams, intern for the Galveston Daily in Texas was arrested on Saturday night - for 'claimed' interference. He was covering the first weekend of Mardi Gras for the paper, I'm outraged about what happened to him. Read about it here:

http://news.galvestondailynews.com/story.lasso?ewcd=2f9a4a9d6c3fc308

And now after all that's happened - his photos are missing after he was released. Now I'm even more furious...

http://news.galvestondailynews.com/story.lasso?ewcd=18fab555b7c9c024


Before we start pointing fingers and putting our honest opinions on this board - take a minute to consider that this is the only information so far - that I believe that everyone has the benefit of the doubt. I'm all for the police doing their job - but sometimes a line has to be drawn. That's all I'm saying. I hope I haven't offended anyone. Sharing is caring.

Best,
Marcus Yam
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Eric Canha, Photographer
Brockton | MA | United States | Posted: 1:35 AM on 02.14.07
->> Well if that isn't the perfect time for 3 dozen "citizen journalists' to whip out cellphone cameras and report the story I don't know what is!

The thing that I don't get is, if the files were simply deleted in the camera, why doesn't he or the paper just 'rescue' them back. Assuming that the the data wasn't overwritten.
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Bruce Twitchell, Photographer
Coeur d'Alene | ID | USA | Posted: 1:47 AM on 02.14.07
->> Eric,
I think that rescuing the files is not as big of deal as that the police tampered with evidence. Deleting files- what are they trying to hide? Why did they delete those files and only those files?

Reminds me of the Nixon tapes where he attempted to delete parts of the tapes. It has been said that if he just destroyed the tapes completely, that part of the trial may have eventually blown over, but it was evident that cover up being being attempted.

What was on those photos and only those photos that deemed them 'deleteable' by the police? Why not just format the whole card, then they could have claimed ignorance on camera operation, but by deleting certain images, it is apparent that they knew what they were doing and they were tampering with property that is not owned by the city and could be considered evidence in a case.
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Bruce Twitchell, Photographer
Coeur d'Alene | ID | USA | Posted: 1:48 AM on 02.14.07
->> Let me change that to the police allegedly did the deleting of the images and they allegedly are tampering with evidence.
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Bob Markey, Photographer
Royal Palm Beach | FL | US | Posted: 2:14 AM on 02.14.07
->> I was once a victim of police abuse during the course of doing my job as a photographer and writer. It was a tough time, made worse because I worked for a small community newspaper, received no support from other news media or the state press association, and was later sued by a frequently-disciplined "officer" who alleged that he was injured while pounding me into the ground. (I had been defending myself from an unprovoked attack by a grand prix race car official who was upset that a crash scene was being photographed.)

I am happy to see the Galveston paper is digging into this issue. I'll bet the paper's investigation is more thorough than that of the police, who will likely close rank and cover their butts. And speaking of body parts, my back and neck frequently ache more than 15 years later, thanks to my brush with sheriff's office incompetence.
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Wes Hope, Photographer
Maryville | TN | USA | Posted: 2:18 AM on 02.14.07
->> Nick is a SportsShooter member: http://www.sportsshooter.com/members.html?id=2059

So just remember before mud starts flinging (and you know somebody is already waiting with a handful) that we need to hear his side of the story if he feels like sharing.
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Marcus Yam, Photographer
Buffalo | NY | USA | Posted: 2:38 AM on 02.14.07
->> Here's a follow up -
http://news.galvestondailynews.com/story.lasso?ewcd=9701fb35835ae31a

Marcus
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Steven E. Frischling, Photographer
New England | | USA | Posted: 2:57 AM on 02.14.07
->> Nick has been a member of SportsShooter since high school. Nick's record of asking questions, seeking advice, having his work grow and mature right in front of our eyes on SportsShooter is something we can all look at to see what kind of person and journalist he is.

I recall when Nick first joined SportsShooter. I recall when Nick first attended a SportsShooter Luau, and I think we need to stand behind Nick and fully believe his version of events.

Nick is a good kid, a good photographer and someone who in my opinion has proven his intentions as a photojournalist over the past few years.

Good Luck Nick!






Welcome to the club of detained and arrested photogs. It's not fun, but it's an experience which may help you out in the future.......unfortunately I know the experience.
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Nick Adams, Student/Intern, Photographer
Galveston | TX | USA | Posted: 3:52 AM on 02.14.07
->> It should be noted that the last link is an opinion of a editor.

I will keep this short because I have not given a statement to the police yet.

I never touched an officer nor did I try to move around him. I clearly informed the officer whom I work for; I was around five to ten feet away from the other officers arresting the man for public intoxication.

I shot three frames before I was taken to the ground; only one of the three images was on the card when it was returned to me (a locked file), images were taken (include 4 shots of a lady walking around the tent area) while I was in a holding cell before going to county.

We ran image rescue programs and plan on sending the card to Sandisk for recovery.

Other then a nasty bruise on my jaw and broken gear, I am well.

The newspaper just hired a “well known” civil rights lawyer and I am happy to have them behind me 100%.

Thanks to everyone that supports me.
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Chuck Liddy, Photographer
Durham | NC | USA | Posted: 10:32 AM on 02.14.07
->> hang in there nick. you're doing the right thing. unfortunately cops do this kind of crap all the time and mostly get away with it. not all cops mind you, but there are always a few bad apples in every basket heh? glad the newspaper is taking a hard line stand with you. no matter what happens the best thing about something like this is once the cops are called on it most think twice before harassing and violating your civil rights again.
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Chad Greene, Photographer
Knoxville | TN | USA | Posted: 10:43 AM on 02.14.07
->> I worked at The Galveston County Daily News for almost five years and have known Nick nearly as long.

Over that time Nick has grown as a photographer and as a person, so I believe him. The paper in Galveston is one of the best I have ever worked with and the editors there are all top notch. Knowing that they are standing behind him is very good. I’ve had their support in the past for difficult stories I worked on and it has meant a lot to me.

Nick called and told me the story the morning after it happened. I know many of the police officers in the area, and for the most part they are a good bunch of hard working people. From what I have heard and read it sounds as though the visiting officer helping with security was way out of line and overstepped his authority.

I hope the situation will be resolved quickly and Nick can put this behind him and concentrate of making photos.
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Eric Canha, Photographer
Brockton | MA | United States | Posted: 11:47 AM on 02.14.07
->> Nick,

I wish you and the paper the best possible outcome. Any chance that a private security camera caught the incident? It would be great to catch the cops in their fabricated version of events. Maybe Sandisk will find more than just your 2 files that were deleted. How special would it be to find that they took more 'compromising' shots and then deleted those only to have the come back ;>
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Wesley R. Bush, Photographer
Nashville | TN | U.S. | Posted: 12:19 PM on 02.14.07
->> Nick,

remember to stay professional and keep taking photos. Don't get side-tracked at this point in your career with a bunch of nonsense that isn't going to matter as much as you continuing to grow as a photographer. Regardless of fault, arrests don't look good on resumés. Be a better journalist than he is a cop.
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Gary Clark, Photographer
Mill Spring | NC | USA | Posted: 12:48 PM on 02.14.07
->> Nick,
That happened to me last year at a high school basketball game. Some parent started cursing and telling the reffs that he was going to beat the s--t out of them. Then calling them off colour remarks. I turned around a told him that I did not approve of his language, he turn around and asked me what the f--k Iwas going to do about it. The whole time I was trying to a officers attention about this nut. But he was just bsing with some young lady. I told him that I would take his photo, he tried to ripe the camera out of my hands, then the officer came over and the ass. principle came over and would not listen to me and told me to stop taking his pictures. Well I told her no it was in a public place. They ascorted me out of the gym. One of my papers were pissed off and wanted to go after the police dept. for harassment. The other paper told me not do it again. I called the ACLU and that was my rights Violated.
Gary
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Eric Canha, Photographer
Brockton | MA | United States | Posted: 1:20 PM on 02.14.07
->> Gary said .... Well I told her no it was in a public place. They ascorted me out of the gym. One of my papers were pissed off and wanted to go after the police dept. for harassment. The other paper told me not do it again. I called the ACLU and that was my rights Violated.

Gary a HS gym is NOT a public place. When you walk into a school you are walking on to property that is owned by the city or school district. It has a designated use, and rules, and people empowered to to see that it is used as designated. It is not the same as a sidewalk, or a public park, or the parking lot at city hall. Try walking into the publicly owned firehouse and telling them that you need to make a call on the publicly owned and paid telephone.

Their house, their rules. You lucked out, I imagine that the school could have contacted your editor(s) and had you banned from future games for getting involved with the fans in such a way. Just my 2 cents.
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Stephen Traynor, Photographer, Photo Editor
Harker Heights | TX | USA | Posted: 4:38 PM on 02.14.07
->> I had the pleasure of working alongside Nick when he intered at the Daily Telegram in Temple, TX, and had never seen nor experienced anything other than great instincts for finding moments and respect for those around him while he was shooting. I too, as many have detailed here, been threatened by a number of sources, from school and government officials to police officers. I was also on the receiving end of a wrench to my head while photographing a news event at a construction site where a worker was pinned between two beams after a retaining wall collapsed.

Nick, hang in there. We all support your RIGHT to take pictures in public places. I say that with emphasis because lately, our RIGHTS are slowly eroding. It is unusual that the police officer would say that he asked Nick to back up, then had to turn around and arrest him. I hope the information about this story is shared throughout our journalism community as an example of a photog that got it right for a change.

Peace,
Steve
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Grant Blankenship, Photographer
Macon | GA | USA | Posted: 4:42 PM on 02.14.07
->> Nick,

You can recover those photos! I'm sure the officers didn't know how to do a hard format of the card with a computer in order to fully erase the images. The delete button on the camera won't get the job done. Get EXIF Untrasher or a similar piece of image recovery software and reclaim your JPEGs.
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Todd Spoth, Photographer, Student/Intern
Houston | TX | USA | Posted: 5:21 PM on 02.14.07
->> I have yet to meet Nick, but im sure I will one of these days. We come from the same area and Ive met several people (not involved in photo) that ask if I know him.

Sorry to hear about your situation Nick. Good luck with it all.

-Todd (from Clear Lake)
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Bob Markey, Photographer
Royal Palm Beach | FL | US | Posted: 6:04 PM on 02.14.07
->> Even a card "format" will not remove the images. I have recovered images from a CF card that had been reformatted a day or two earlier, using Photo Rescue. They key is not to use the card any more until the images are recovered.
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Lane Hickenbottom, Photographer
Grand Island | NE | usa | Posted: 6:17 PM on 02.14.07
->> "They key is not to use the card any more until the images are recovered."

I'm no expert here, but I believe the key problem here is the photos the police allegedly took themselves after deleting the images were likely writen over the deleted images.
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Wesley R. Bush, Photographer
Nashville | TN | U.S. | Posted: 8:04 PM on 02.14.07
->> Police are no beginners with photography and would likely know about photo rescue. Jeff Duncan, a SS member, is a police detective. Maybe he can share his thoughts on how media are generally perceived by police.
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Jeffrey Haderthauer, Photographer
Wichita Falls | TX | USA | Posted: 8:20 PM on 02.14.07
->> They usually hate us. Unless they think we can do something to make them look good.
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Kevin M. Cox, Photographer, Assistant
Galveston / Houston | TX | US | Posted: 8:48 PM on 02.14.07
->> Trust me guys, we have run a variety of image recovery programs on the card in question to cover our bases. Lexar's ImageRescue, PhotoRescue and today I ran SanDisk's RescuePRO which pulled 580+ images off the card.
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David Manning, Photographer
Orlando | FL | | Posted: 10:08 PM on 02.14.07
->> Just a side note on Police and Photographers.....

The local Sheriffs office is the anachronism in the police world - theyre actually open and realtivly easy to get along with. Same with the local FHP troopers. I've been escorted onto crime scenes by PIOs as well been given more help and access then i ever thought imaginable.

That being said, I hope Nick sues the pants off this cop for his abuse of powers. I hope he gets dismissed from the force. Because clearly this guy was from out of town and didnt give a crap and thought he could get away with it.
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Lane Hickenbottom, Photographer
Grand Island | NE | usa | Posted: 10:18 PM on 02.14.07
->> Most people behind a badge are decent folks who put up with a lot of crap while trying to make an honest living.
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Bob Levey, Photographer
Richmond/Houston | TX | USA | Posted: 10:20 PM on 02.14.07
->> As a former police officer of 15 years...i know for a fact that the officers admistrators are not going to be happy because he was "working an extra job" when this occurred....if I read the article correctly...he was from League City and not Galveston PD or Galveston SO...... A clear case of all he was cocerned about is the $30-$35hr he was making on this "extra job"!!!

I dont know Nick well...but I do know him enuff through hear and others that he wouldn't impede the officers duty to make the arrest....Ill be watching this to see how it comes out

Bob
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Andrew Villa, Student/Intern, Photo Editor
Dublin | CA | United States | Posted: 3:01 AM on 02.15.07
->> Nick, it always saddens me to hear stories like this, because of the police officers I have in my family and how much I know they would never treat a journalist like this. I hope everything works out for you man and keep up the shooting.
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Bob Ford, Photographer
Lehighton | Pa | USA | Posted: 8:57 AM on 02.15.07
->> Hang in there Nick, I hope everything works out for you.
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Daniel Tunstall, Photographer
Pearland (Houston) | TX | USA | Posted: 10:26 PM on 02.15.07
->> I have known Nick since his Junior year in HS, I shooting for his competition. I read the Chron's article today much to my surprise, because I had not heard about this yet.

Wow.

Hang in their buddy, I am glad to hear you have the support of the company you are working with. Police can make mistakes, no doubt. Sounds like they made a whopper.
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JohnPaul Greco, Photographer, Assistant
Milwaukee | WI | USA | Posted: 1:06 PM on 02.16.07
->> "Morris said the officer physically pushed the photographer back as he gave the order to back off."

Yep,...that sounds about right...... JERK Cop!!

JP
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anthony neste, Photographer, Photo Editor
FLAGLER BEACH | FL | USA | Posted: 2:31 PM on 02.17.07
->> Hey Nick, Next time they say move back say yes and switch to the long glass!!
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Kevin M. Cox, Photographer, Assistant
Galveston / Houston | TX | US | Posted: 2:01 AM on 05.15.08
->> A resolution: Daily News photographer cleared

GALVESTON — A jury cleared a former Daily News photographer Wednesday of a charge that he interfered with police during 2007’s Mardi Gras.
http://www.galvnews.com/story.lasso?ewcd=661e2e3d9b0b8d26
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James Madelin, Photographer
AKL | Auckland | New Zealand | Posted: 4:43 AM on 05.15.08
->> what a great result.. i'm very pleased that the newspaper pursued it too.

i carry a small olympus sound recorder on all jobs that involve the police, as i have been threatened and even assaulted (albeit in a minor way) by police before and often work on my own at night. a sound file could be a great way to have extra evidence of any arrest, although the effectiveness in a crowd is debatable.

"interference".. yeah right. they call it "obstruction" down here and i'd agree with sentiments above; most police officers are exceptional, but those that aren't really go out of their way to give their entire organisation a bad name.
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Manuello Paganelli, Photographer
Los Angeles | CA | USA | Posted: 1:09 PM on 05.15.08
->> Folks, the best way to help this fellow photographer is to find out the name of the chief of police, their fone number/emails and bombard them with phone calls and emails. That will get their attention and their eyes open.

Any where and any time INJUSTICE is done to ANYBODY we need to RAISE HELL and give a VOICE and HOPE to those who are incapable of doing it on their own.

More 2 come

Pag

www.ManuelloPaganelli.com
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Mike Vander Veer, Student/Intern, Photographer
Cheney | WA | USA | Posted: 10:55 PM on 05.15.08
->> Congrats Nick!

Also, congratulations go to the prosecution for hiring an attorney just as incompetent as the arresting officer:

“This is not a case about freedom of the press,” Powell said. “(Adams) was effectively saying, ‘I have a camera in my hand, and I’m taking pictures, so I don’t have to follow the law.’”

Using that logic, effectively I'm a phenomenal photographer because I'm getting a BA in Psychology. ;)
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Jim Donnelly, Photographer
Coral Springs | Fl | USA | Posted: 11:49 PM on 05.31.08
->> Dear fellow SS photographers: Please accept my apologies for this rant in advance.
However, in one of the posts above, there are some BOLD FACE misrepresentations...
The following is my rebuttal to his post and are only my opinions... I just couldn't, in good conscience sit here and let him mislead real professionals.

Bob Markey, I can't believe you brought this subject up on this forum and represented the facts the way you did!

I grew up in the media business, just like you did. However, I was not like you. I was not spoiled by my father, who in your case, back when this event took place, owned the small town rag you worked for.... You thought you could do whatever you wanted back then because he owned the paper..

Please don't misrepresent the facts to the fine professionals on this site.

I use the word professionals because on the day these events took place, you were being anything but a "professional" and I have the video to prove it. It even won awards from my peers for spot news coverage! (FYI readers- I was working for the ABC affiliate at the time)

Let's set the scene for everyone since your memory is a bit skewed in your favor...

Grand Prix of Palm Beach... Indy cars racing around the Palm Beach Fairgrounds in a practice run. Scott Pruett crashes in practice. The photography rules for credentials clearly stated we were not to be on the track at "ANY" time for "ANY" reason. The track promoter had well publicized issues securing insurance for this venue and was very clear about where we could and could not shoot from.

Apparently these rules did not apply to spoiled children and their Publisher/Father.

When Pruett crashed you ran on to the track towards the car instead of keeping a safe distance!

The rescue workers even had to move you and/or go around you to get to the victim of the crash! You were clearly asked to back up and you ducked around the officer to get your shots!

The track promoter, obviously worried about the safety of the driver and knowing these cars catch fire easily, was just as worried about your safety. He stated as much in the interview immediately following the incident!
My reporter even commented, "Look at that jackass, he'd climb in the car if he could!"
That audio was picked up by the shotgun mike of my camera just before the fine officers of the Palm Beach County Sheriff's Department took you down. Again, I have it all on video, have dissected the entire event with our station's lawyers, the district attorney and the officer's attorneys.

The reason you didn't get any cooperation from the local media is because you were dead wrong in your actions and nothing we could have done would have helped your case even if we wanted to. Your offer to buy the video from me even after my station told you under no circumstances could we give it to you, proves you didn't care about anyone but yourself. (All we could provide was what aired on our newscasts - because of the profanity, the reporter's comments had been edited out)

If you were a true professional, shooting with the proper equipment, you would have been able to capture the action from a safe distance. If you didn't have a God complex because your daddy owned the paper and a credential hanging around your neck to make you feel invincible, you would have realized that you not only delayed treatment for the driver, but put yourself and those public servants dealing with you in grave danger. You wouldn't even be around to complain if that car had caught fire!

Then, to make the situation worse, your father's jumping on the backs of the officers that took you down was the icing on the cake! It was about the most blatant example of unprofessionalism I have ever witnessed! Then you have the audacity to come on here and say its the officer's fault because he had a history of doing his job?
How dare you! You got what you deserved and knew any of the local media that witnessed your actions would have buried you in court so you didn't call on us as witnesses!

Low life, unprofessional rule breakers like you are the reason security has to be so tight at NFL games and other venues! You ruined the freedom we use to share!
Would you run on the field at an NFL game if a player got hurt then sue security for taking you down, then use Daddy's money to sue them?
Why is this incident any different?
IT'S NOT!

You forgot to mention that the front page of the Palm Beach Post had a wide shot of the whole incident the next day because their photog was in the designated area and did not cross the safety barrier! The other TV station's videographer and the Miami Herald Photographer were also a safe distance away. They were pros and were able to do their jobs within the rules. You were wrong and I would hope that over the years you would have realized that as you matured! Apparently not!
Those cops that arrested you very possibly saved your life. Don't bother being grateful. You should be happy to pay his medical bills - he saved your life!

That track promoter was looking out for his interests for sure, but he was right to do what he did.
All he was trying to do was drag your dumb ass out of the way so the real pros could do their jobs.
You deserved to go to jail, you deserved to be sued and you deserved to never be given a media credential again because obviously you haven't learned a damn thing from it!

You were WRONG! Just admit it already and move on!
Of course, this is just my opinion. Same as it was back then. Actually, I just watched the video the other day with my son and used it as an example of what NOT to do!
At 14 he is smart enough to know what's right and wrong!
He even commented, "What an idiot!" as we laughed our tails off. It was that obvious how wrong you were!
Oh well, thanks for the lesson.
Making lemonade out of lemons! See... things happen for a reason!
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Michael Moriatis, Photographer
Santa Barbara | CA | USA | Posted: 12:30 AM on 06.01.08
->> Please tell me the video is on YOUTUBE!
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Nic Coury, Photographer
Monterey | CA | | Posted: 2:32 AM on 06.01.08
->> those Mardi Gras riots are intense.

I was subpoenaed as a photog during the ones in San Luis Obispo, where they brought in 200+ fully-loaded LAPD Swat Police.

Talk about yikes,

~ n
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Michael Myers, Photographer
Miami Beach | FL | USA | Posted: 8:55 AM on 06.01.08
->> Just curious about something. You go to a location to do your job, and expect things to go a certain way.

Then, something totally unexpected and not planned for happens.

Hindsight is usually 20:20, but how "wrong" is it to jump in and get the photos? If you think you can do so safely, without putting yourself or anyone else in danger, do you stay away from things and try to use a long lens to get some kind of photo, or do you try to get close enough to show what it was like?



Many years ago, I think it was a very different situation, and people got in as close as they could to capture the moment. Nowadays it seems like the best intentions in the world can be taken two ways.

Or, to put it very simply, when the planes flew into the WTC, given the choice of getting as far away from it all as possible, or getting into the middle of things, which is the proper thing to do? How "close" is close enough?



Regarding the original topic of this discussion, can the police legally delete images they don't like? Can they confiscate memory cards? I was under the impression that they were not allowed to do this. Seems like all the more reason to have one of those wireless devices that transmits images to an off-camera location as they're taken.
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Kevin Leas, Photographer
Rochester | NY | USA | Posted: 10:08 AM on 06.01.08
->> "Or, to put it very simply, when the planes flew into the WTC, given the choice of getting as far away from it all as possible, or getting into the middle of things, which is the proper thing to do? How "close" is close enough? "

Michael,
I think the issue here is just how newsworthy something is. I think you're comparing apples and something that isn't even a food.

Guy crashes his car. Big deal. Stay clear; let people save him.

Two incredibly significant buildings in one of the busiest cities in America fall victim to a terrorist attack on a scale never seen before in the country? Just a tad bit more newsworthy, don't you think?
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