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Beijing 2008 accreditation,no freelance accepted from italy
Simone Raso, Photographer
Varese | IT | Italy | Posted: 4:12 AM on 12.06.06
->> Hi all,
just to know if also in the US, freelance are so discriminated.
Here in Italy the CONI (the National Olympic Committee), does not accept freelance accreditation request for The 2008 Olympic Games , ONLY Agencies, even if accreditated in previous Olympic Games (in my case Torino 2006).
Tnx, and sorry for my english.

Simone
www.simoneraso.com
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Chuck Liddy, Photographer
Durham | NC | USA | Posted: 11:57 AM on 12.06.06
->> simone, I'm not positive about this but I don't think the olympic committee has made it a habit of accepting freelance photographers. I didn't meet any in sydney durng the 2000 olympics. there are just too many requests. you have to remember teams come from almost every country in the world and along with them their newspapers. I remember we tried to get credentialed for the sydney olympics and although we had over 10 local athletes involved (including marion jones) we were told our circulation was too small 175,000 daily and about 225,000 sunday. I mean there is a finite amout of space at the big events, I did get to go after a lot of finagling but I was amazed at the number of photogrpahers at the big track events......probably between 150 and 200 photographers at the finish line. so I kinda wouldn't get your hopes up of obtaining a credential.
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Bob Ford, Photographer
Lehighton | Pa | USA | Posted: 12:10 PM on 12.06.06
->> Simone, I remember from my application for Beijing it clearly stated that the USOC will not credential any freelancers.

There's a chance that we will have a few athletes there from our area but we were denied credentials. I wasn't really surprised because I work at a very small daily.
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Bob Ford, Photographer
Lehighton | Pa | USA | Posted: 12:13 PM on 12.06.06
->> I just found the email that I was talking about. It says:

"Guidelines for media accreditation include: must be a U.S.-based organization; must be a daily newspaper; must be national news and sports magazines. Internet-based organizations will be accredited according to IOC guidelines. The organization, which must have staff members reporting and originating news, cannot be affiliated with an already-accredited publication. No weekly newspapers or freelancers will be accredited."
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Scott Mallon, Photographer
Bangkok | N/A | Thailand | Posted: 1:59 AM on 05.07.07
->> Fortunately, after some hemming and hawing by the USOC, I was given a sports specific credential for boxing. It wasn't easy and I'm the one handling the paperwork but I think it will be worthwhile.
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Jim Colburn, Photographer
Omaha | NE | USA | Posted: 5:21 AM on 05.07.07
->> Found your own agency and re-apply.
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Paul Anderson, Photographer
Münster | Germany | Germany | Posted: 5:34 AM on 05.07.07
->> If you really want to get some attention, name the IOC in a restraint of trade lawsuit. There will be many contractors, which is a nice way to say freelancers, working at the Beijing games. If every reporter, camera man and wire puller had to prove full time paid employment of the organization mentioned on there credential there would be very little coverage of the Beijing games.
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Paul Anderson, Photographer
Münster | Germany | Germany | Posted: 5:36 AM on 05.07.07
->> sorry, their not there.
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Michael Cullen, Photographer
Wexford Town | 0000 | Ireland | Posted: 9:29 AM on 08.28.07
->> if you found your own photo agency would you get a accreditation?
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George Bridges, Photographer, Photo Editor
Washington | DC | USA | Posted: 9:43 AM on 08.28.07
->> --- There will be many contractors, which is a nice way to say freelancers, working at the Beijing games. If every reporter, camera man and wire puller had to prove full time paid employment of the organization mentioned on there credential there would be very little coverage of the Beijing games. ---

True, but the media organization is asking for passes for them as they are employed by the organization throughout the games, they are not applying for their own credential and then just showing up and asking NBC "hey, you need a cable puller today?"

Olympics credentials have for many years been given only to accredited organizations, and yes, you can try forming your own agency, setting up an online shop and applying that way.

There has been a drastic reduction in the number of passes given out for the Beijing games so nearly every organization covering is finding fewer credentials coming their way meaning each country's Olympic Committee is finding huge pressure from media who have a long history of covering the games and when a sole freelancer comes calling they will give them the cold shoulder
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Nic Summers, Photographer
Mount Prospect | IL | USA | Posted: 4:45 PM on 08.28.07
->> Considering the event is being held in China, I would think there would be an abundance of various credentials(counterfeit) available... who do you want to work for today? ;)
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Scott Foster, Photographer
Navarre | Fl | USA | Posted: 4:51 PM on 08.28.07
->> Was hoping to direct this to Scott Mallon; I just shot the 2008 olympic boxing trials for USA boxing & I'm in the process of negotiating a position as their staff photographer. My question was do you think that would restrict my ringside access for just the USA bouts in China?

I would think that is the case.

And will your "sports specific credential" grant you ringside access for the duration of the games, or was it for a specific athlete [I'm guessing you might be covering the fighters out of Indonesia ~ i've enjoyed your work from that part of the globe].

Scott Foster
http://www.sportsshooter.com/members.html?id=6682
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Geoff Miller, Photographer
Portage | MI | USA | Posted: 5:26 PM on 08.28.07
->> "Considering the event is being held in China, I would think there would be an abundance of various credentials(counterfeit) available... who do you want to work for today?"

However, given that China has been known to extend capital offense status to business fraud when it wants to, me thinks the locals would be a little more reluctant to forge Oly Creds than to knock off "50 Cent" CDs! :)
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Michael Cullen, Photographer
Wexford Town | 0000 | Ireland | Posted: 5:47 PM on 08.28.07
->> Could a freelance make money from Beijing, after you fly over to China, and pay for a hotel for two weeks, with all the main newspapers etc working on this event?

How can a freelance sell images to newspapers?

Mike
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Scott Mallon, Photographer
Bangkok | N/A | Thailand | Posted: 2:10 PM on 03.26.08
->> ->> Could a freelance make money from Beijing, after you fly over to China, and pay for a hotel for two weeks, with all the main newspapers etc working on this event?

How can a freelance sell images to newspapers?

Mike>>>

Personally, I don't think so. For me, I look at it as an investment. I'll make back some of the money I spend but it's in the long-term that I think I'll make money. It might take me 10 years - hopefully not - but if I make a few hundred % profit, then maybe it will work out to be beneficial. I'm flying from Bangkok though.
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Chuck Steenburgh, Photographer
Lexington | VA | USA | Posted: 8:39 PM on 03.26.08
->> No need to start your own agency; just join this one:

http://www.ifpo.net/

Just $74 for lifetime universal press credentials. If you pick up almost any photo magazine, you'll find an add for their 12-year-old (at least) temporary membership drive to save $25.

;-)
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N. Scott Trimble, Photographer
Lake Oswego | OR | USA | Posted: 9:25 PM on 03.26.08
->> I freelanced in Sydney for the Paralympic Games, and did alright money wise, even despite the fact I lost many clients to AllSport offering photos for free.
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Derrick den Hollander, Photographer
Melbourne | VIC | AUSTRALIA | Posted: 12:17 AM on 03.27.08
->> Scott - I think you might find ringside will be a Pool Position, so you would need to apply on a bout by bout basis. I'm not sure how many rinside positions there might be - but you'll probably find Getty, Reuters, Xinhua taking up 3 most of the time. Still, if you don't apply, you'll never know. It will be up to the discretion of the Photo Manager who gets a Pool position - but typically those photographers who represent the bigger agencies/biggest circulation will get the nod first. Having done the test event, you'd probably know more about how it is going to pan out than most.

I also had a look at a major agencies pictures of the Water Polo test event. Either the venue has terrible lighting, or the agency is using photographers with little idea of the sport/equipment. They are probably the lowest standard pictures I've ever seen on the agency's website.
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Andy Mead, Photographer, Photo Editor
Durham | NC | USA | Posted: 9:11 AM on 03.27.08
->> The other thing to keep in mind is that there are different types of photo credentials to the games. Credentialing is a multistage process through multiple organizations. My U.S. based soccer agency is credentialed through FIFA and the IOC with "sport specific" credentials. We applied through the USOC, but their pool of credentials is limited and, frankly, we didn't expect to get credentials that way. After the initial national organization process came the sporting federation process. We applied through FIFA and our "responsible organization" is the IOC itself, and not the USOC.

I'm guessing that established international freelancers with track records of covering events will get in on sport specific credentials through given international bodies.

But it's a long term play. YCJ has spent eight years paying its international dues and building a resume of covering international soccer.

So, yeah, Jim Colburn is right. Found your own agency. It does work. But it's not going to get you to Beijing, and if you start today, it probably won't get you to London. And you can't plan to just go to the Olympics, you need to become a presence in the specific sports you are interested in, and pay your dues.
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Alex Menendez, Photographer
Orlando | FL | USA | Posted: 8:33 AM on 03.28.08
->> http://www.sports-city.org/news_details.php?news_id=3784&idCategory=1


You could buy one of these....!!!?????? (Joking)
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