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Giving Photographers a Bad Name
Chris Schwegler, Photographer
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St Clair Shores | MI | USA | Posted: 3:15 PM on 11.06.06 |
->> ***Orignally posted on a few sites, just wanted to add this here.***
http://www.flickr.com/photos/icopythat/289901101/
And you wonder why photographing events are getting so stricted.
chris
schwegweb.com |
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Mark Smith, Photographer
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Elk City | OK | USA | Posted: 3:40 PM on 11.06.06 |
| ->> Even more frightening is that a couple of "pros" are defending her. |
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Eric Thayer, Photographer
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New York | NY | USA | Posted: 3:51 PM on 11.06.06 |
->> I hope the photographer said something to her, rather than just outing her in a public forum.
What she did may or may not have been in good form, but outing someone on the web without giving them the chance to speak on their own behalf or defend themselves face to face is definitely bad form - if that is in fact the case. |
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David Harpe, Photographer
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Louisville | KY | USA | Posted: 3:51 PM on 11.06.06 |
| ->> Sometimes Brightroom positions their photographers directly in the running path of marathoners. They had two in the direct path near the finish a couple of years ago at the derby marathon. Not saying it's right or anything...just saying I've seen it done before. |
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Primoz Jeroncic, Photographer
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Kranj | SI | Slovenia | Posted: 4:40 PM on 11.06.06 |
->> I saw such things happened but I don't really appreciate people doing such things. I agree such photos are better (at least for me) then standard long lens shoots from somewhere out of track, but with a little bit of thinking, you can get exactly same photos without annoying everyone around you. There's thousands of traffic signs and places where road splits to two lanes (sorry sometimes my English is not as good as I wish to describe right things right way, but I hope you know what I mean) and you can easily stand there without hindering anyone, and you can get exactly same photos. But you should think about stuff like this a bit before. So since I know this can be easily done nicer way, I'm not going to defend her.
On the other side, I respect people who are running, skiing, playing basketball, etc., so acting normally and not hindering them during races (even if they are on back of the pack) is least we can do. But on this, I might be a bit biased, since I was in sport myself for quite few years. |
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John Tucker, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Cordova | TN | USA | Posted: 5:07 PM on 11.06.06 |
| ->> I, too, have shot many running events and this is not uncommon. A lot of times these photography companies position their photographers (many that have never even seen a marathon) in the middle of a street........especially in the later stages of the events. It don't look like the girl is causing any harm, the one guy that swerved had plenty of space before the girl (from the angle of the photo made of her) and if so many of the people posting in that forum were so close to her and felt that she was doing something so terribly wrong, then why didn't they walk up and say something instead of posting those rediculous, name calling, posts on a public forum? I guess none of them ever saw the cluster$%^# that takes place at midfield after a college football game............where professional photographers nearly kill eachother for a shot of two coaches shaking hands........no, it's not the same game, but it's still as silly. Be considerate, stay out of people's faces......sounds so nice, but then the guy posts that photo so the girl can be berated.......it seems as if the "idiot factor" goes deeper than some girl photographing a marathon. |
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Richard Wolowicz, Photographer
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Brossard | QC | Canada | Posted: 5:17 PM on 11.06.06 |
->> Be curious to see how long she'd last in turn 3 at Daytona during a NASCAR event.
Not very respectful to other photogs shooting nearby. |
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Jim Colburn, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Omaha | NE | USA | Posted: 5:31 PM on 11.06.06 |
| ->> Oh gee. You mean the poor, poor runners can't move a bit to one side to avoid her? Who are the ones taking up all the space on those city streets and causing stopped traffic and leaving their litter all over the damn place? It sure ain't the photographers. |
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Jason Orth, Photographer
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Lincoln | NE | USA | Posted: 5:55 PM on 11.06.06 |
->> When I shot the Lincoln Marathon this year I made a very conscious effort NOT to get in anyone's way.
The thing about this girl is she could've sat off to the side and still picked them off since they want pretty much full body stuff that early. We shot early and just planted a guy on one side and me on the other. They should've planned it better.
Jim, when I ran just a half-marathon I was not in the mood to move for anyone but the guy I was passing. I tried dodging a pothole and almost wound up on my head. You get tired enough that any muscle that isn't used to move forward is hard to move. I'm sure at the end of 26 miles it's hard enough to go forward. |
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Jason Orth, Photographer
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Lincoln | NE | USA | Posted: 5:57 PM on 11.06.06 |
| ->> Oh, I wouldn't have done that to the girl on the internet either. I think that behavior is worse than the offense he is upset about. |
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Bill Mitchell, Photographer
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Tempe | AZ | USA | Posted: 5:58 PM on 11.06.06 |
->> ->> Sometimes Brightroom positions their photographers directly in the running path of marathoners.
I've never shot for Brightroom, but I've done a few marathons and triathlons for ASI, including upshots at the finish line. We've never been told to put ourselves right into the path of the runners. In my opinion, that would be just plain stupid. With tens of thousands of runners coming across the line, odds are that either the photographers or runners would eventually collide.
Also, if she was shooting for someone, she would likely be wearing a vest showing that she was credentialed for that race.
This reminds me of the discussion a few months ago about whether one should rush out on to a baseball field to get better shots of a fight. The general concensus on that debate was to shoot from the sidelines and don't go on the field during the game. The same rule applies here, in my humble opinion. Stay out of the way. Good photographers will get good shots even when following the rules! |
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Jim Leary, Photographer
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Island | NY | USA | Posted: 6:30 PM on 11.06.06 |
| ->> What that girl did should not be tolerated. If event officials made an example out of these inconsiderate and unprofessional photographers we'd see less of these instances but the example has to be made. She should, and her company should be banned from the marathon next year. Do that and I'm sure it will be the last of that nonsense. Problem is, event officials don't have the guts to do it. |
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Jeff Stanton, Photographer
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Tucson | Az | USA | Posted: 6:39 PM on 11.06.06 |
| ->> Once she is hit, run over or puked on, she will end that practice. Outing her in a public forum is one thing, but the proof is in the images of her on the course, so in my mind, there isn't much to defend. But I'm also the kind of person who would have said something to her right there and then, probably in a very unfriendly manner. :o) |
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Nic Summers, Photographer
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Mount Prospect | IL | USA | Posted: 7:11 PM on 11.06.06 |
->> Personally, I think it's VERY easy for a lot of people that have never run a marathon and that are sitting on their butt in front of a computer to be critical of this.
I would rather wait and hear from someone that actually had a problem with her being there that was running THAT race.
When you run a race like that, there are multiple obstacles that you must overcome to reach the end. By the time you have run 26 miles you have run around and dodged probably hundreds, if not thousands, of other runners and one more person is not going to upset someone that has undertaken such an mental and physical endeavor.
Usually someone that is determined to enter and run a race to the finish of a 26.2 mile race is not so trivial and is mentally able to rise above and avoid this human pothole.
I think a lot of people that have never run a marathon are making a big deal out of something that is really nothing and everyone should take a pill and get overthemselves. |
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Oscar Sosa, Photographer
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Jacksonville | FL | USA | Posted: 7:24 PM on 11.06.06 |
| ->> I was a competative runner for many years and I can tell you that she was a safety hazard to those runners. She really should not have been there and as a professional photographer I would have picked another spot where I wouldn't be part of the race course. |
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Jim Colburn, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Omaha | NE | USA | Posted: 7:37 PM on 11.06.06 |
->> "Personally, I think it's VERY easy for a lot of people that have never run a marathon and that are sitting on their butt in front of a computer to be critical of this."
Just as it's SO easy for those runners that feed from the public teat in their insistance that streets be closed just because THEY want to do their little "running" thing. |
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Drew Broadley, Photographer
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Palmerston North | NZ | New Zealand | Posted: 7:56 PM on 11.06.06 |
->> I was once a competitive (loose definition) runner, but I would never have made it far enough for her to be in my way.
Back to the couch for me. |
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Richard Wolowicz, Photographer
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Brossard | QC | Canada | Posted: 8:00 PM on 11.06.06 |
->> Jim,
That many marathons in Omaha ?
Just curious ... I've only covered one. |
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N. Scott Trimble, Photographer
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Tempe | AZ | USA | Posted: 8:19 PM on 11.06.06 |
| ->> thanks for the link to that post. It makes me realize why I would never join such a bottom feeding photo community such as that. How vile and obscene these people are! |
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Jack Megaw, Student/Intern
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West Chester | PA | United States | Posted: 8:30 PM on 11.06.06 |
->> Can't see any of the bright pink media passes around her neck, but anyway, did anybody see the finish of the 05 marathon- when a photographer jumped out in front and lost one of the runners the race.
You see this sort of thing in le Tour du France once or twice every year on the mountain stages when a fan blocks a rider, and makes him stop, and lose his rhythm.
-Jack |
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Nic Summers, Photographer
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Mount Prospect | IL | USA | Posted: 8:37 PM on 11.06.06 |
->> http://www.omahamarathon.com/06site/home.html
"Thank you Runners, Sponsors, Volunteers, Exhibitors and Officials! The 2006 Omaha Marathon was a Great Success, with More Runners than Ever Before! Please Join Us for the 2007 Omaha Marathon on September 23, 2007!"
Mark your calendars.... |
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Wesley R. Bush, Photographer
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Nashville | TN | U.S. | Posted: 8:41 PM on 11.06.06 |
| ->> I've shot probably 20 marathons/triathlons and USUALLY shoot from the side but OCCASIONALLY I've shot from the middle of the road (with consent of the event organizers). The runners certainly see you standing there as they approach at a blazing speed of about 4-6 mph. As long as you do it with SPARSE traffic and you are within your event authority to be there, there is nothing wrong with it. If a person were to try it where the runners are clustered together and get in their way, then sure, she's in the wrong. But not nearly as wrong as calling her out like he did. If anyone is making photographers look bad, it's the guy who posted her picture. |
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Drew Buchanan, Photographer, Student/Intern
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Fort Walton Beach | FL | USA | Posted: 8:48 PM on 11.06.06 |
->> If she was credentialed for the race I wouldn't mind so much. But even if she was, she shouldn't being chimping in the middle of the route; take your "original" picture and get out of the way.
Nic, you took the words right out of my mouth.
For those of you dissing runners.
...Jim I really hope you're being sarcastic(that's why I didn't mark your post).
You try running a marathon. You have to train for months to accomplish that 26.2 mile run. At least some of us try to stay healthy and do something productive in our spare time instead of being coach potatoes. I'd love to see some of you, that put down runners or that defend her, after a marathon; I'd laugh my @$$ off. |
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Jason Frizzelle, Photographer
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Greenville | NC | USA | Posted: 8:54 PM on 11.06.06 |
->> I think the issue is respect for the runners which she obviously doesnt have. Actions like that give off a repulsive amount of arrogance. I shoot triathalons and races all the time with a 300 2.8 and an extender. This person should never have been in the middle of the road and shouldve had her credentials displayed. Photogs like that dont know how much they hurt the rest of the industry because the next race could see a completely innocent photog being hassled by officals for something someone else did. Man thats just bad form. These are the kinda things we complain about TV guys doing all the time and now were doing it to each other. I do agree with the others that said the guy posting shouldve spoke to her. He obviously didnt or he would know her name. She looks very young and perhaps he couldve pulled her aside and gave her some tips, when I was younger alot of people did that for me and now I do the same when I can. This kinda thing happens all the time and when it happens to me I make it a point to say what is and isnt okay. Im not familiar with the races rules but they may have a lifetime ban rule which she might want to know about. For all we know this kid coulve just said hey theres people running maybe ill take pictures and could care less about the help from another photog.
Jason |
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Al Santos, Photographer
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Silver Spring | MD | USA | Posted: 8:54 PM on 11.06.06 |
->> Having completed several marathons, I can honestly say that it is difficult to avoid someone standing in the middle of the racecourse after running 20 plus miles, more so if that person is moving around taking pictures. When you are hurting and trying to get to the finish line the last thing you need is someone in your face trying to take your photo. Everything hurts and altering your path even for a little bit causes distress.
This woman has no business taking pictures in the middle of the racecourse. |
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Jonathan Palmer, Photographer
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Decatur | AL | United States | Posted: 9:37 PM on 11.06.06 |
| ->> My post will only mean half as much since i have only ran in half marathons (13.1) but i remember some event photographers snapping away on a tower as the runners came by. It didn't seem to bother me except i wondered why after 11 miles would anyone want to photograph me. To play devils advocate i would much rather a person in the middle of the road toward the races end when there are larger gaps between runners instead of the stampede at the beginning, so the fact that she was on the course was only made better by her timing of when to be there. On the other hand she was working for a company that paid her to shoot a frame of as many runners as she could because people will go to the website and buy those images. But as a photojournalist i would have absolutely no reason to make pictures from the middle of the course the greatest moments are at the beginning of the race and at the end. Those rapid fire cheap pay event photography companies should use a little more common sense. |
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Jim Sykes, Photographer
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Montgomery Village | Md | | Posted: 9:47 PM on 11.06.06 |
->> Nic Summers Wrote:
"->> Personally, I think it's VERY easy for a lot of people that have never run a marathon and that are sitting on their butt in front of a computer to be critical of this. ...
When you run a race like that, there are multiple obstacles that you must overcome to reach the end. By the time you have run 26 miles you have run around and dodged probably hundreds, if not thousands, of other runners and one more person is not going to upset someone that has undertaken such an mental and physical endeavor. ...
I think a lot of people that have never run a marathon are making a big deal out of something that is really nothing and everyone should take a pill and get overthemselves."
I find those comments a little unbelievable from a board such as this. You can argue that for just about anything, the point is that if one random photographer is allowed to run around within the closed off course, what is wrong with another doing it? How about ten others? What happens when there are twenty, or forty other photographers all wanting to get the same shots?
To say "whats the big deal its one person" is one thing, but the underlying issue is that, I'm guesing, hundreds of photographers photographed that event from the designated positions as they should have, how can it be ok for one unprofessional photographer to be where they shouldnt be and, even moreso, how does another professional photographer try to defend that its ok?
I dont understand. |
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Jim Colburn, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Omaha | NE | USA | Posted: 10:14 PM on 11.06.06 |
->> "That many marathons in Omaha?"
Not that many. Clear streets for the most part.
"Jim I really hope you're being sarcastic"
Well Duh... But if she's a phototog trying to make a living I'd still give her props over a few whining runners...
"This woman has no business taking pictures in the middle of the racecourse"
Then I hope you have never, and will never, get in anyone's way, at any time, in your quest for photographs.
That would, of course, preclude your being on the sidelines at any sporting event for fear of intruding on a spectator's view.
It would also mean that you're to never, ever, stand at the front of a crowd that's there (anywhere) to see a political figure, a sports star or a National Guard brigade proudly marching down the street upon their return for action overseas.
Got to be fair. Right? |
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Wesley R. Bush, Photographer
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Nashville | TN | U.S. | Posted: 10:31 PM on 11.06.06 |
->> I'd like to toss out something I noticed about the guy who said the other girl gives photographers a bad name. The same guy also posted pictures of women from the same marathon and posted them under headings like "she's a model. Seriously, I looked her up" and "possibly one of the most beautiful women I have ever seen."
If he thinks someone having to walk around a photographer is rude, imagine how that same person would feel finding out she was posted on a site like that. |
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Osamu Chiba, Photographer
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Vista | CA | USA | Posted: 10:40 PM on 11.06.06 |
->> Those runners paid to be on the course, but the female photographer didn't seem to. It was their event. They didn't need to deal with the shooter. Jim, it doesn't have to be fair.
Like Al, I have run marathons - about 12 in my case. For many people, completing a marathon isn't "little running thing." It'd be a shame if the lady ruined some people's race - that should not be considered "whining."
O |
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Jim Leary, Photographer
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Island | NY | USA | Posted: 10:45 PM on 11.06.06 |
->> Nic,
Seems to me you must be one of those photographers that stands in the street during a marathon. Why else would you strongly defend such unprofessional and inconsiderate actions? |
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Jenny Cecil, Photographer
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Pensacola | FL | USA | Posted: 10:51 PM on 11.06.06 |
->> OK inappropriate button bashers get your clicking finger ready. What is everyone’s problem here? She is obviously young and still learning. She’s doing exactly what everyone on this site is always cramming down our throats! GET CLOSER, GET IN THEIR FACES, and “If you’re pictures aren’t good enough you’re not close enough.” There were 26 miles of available shots, if she’s in your way why not try moving? These runners have been out there all day its not like she’s blocking the only jube shot. I understand they are tired and exhausted but I used to run too, I wouldn’t see the difference between moving around a slower runner and moving around a photographer. It doesn’t look to me like she’s in the thick of anything.
So maybe instead of totally embarrassing this poor girl someone should have informed her on the COURTESY photographers share towards one another. Like HELPING each other, LEARNING from each other, trying to prevent bad situations such as this from happening since it only makes it harder for everyone to do our job. All I want you to take from this post is that maybe instead of ousting her on a public forum we should have helped her out. What if there were no SportShooter.com for YOU to learn from? Any of us could easily have been in that position in our younger years. When are we going to stop ganging up on each other and start helping each other out? |
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Nic Summers, Photographer
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Mount Prospect | IL | USA | Posted: 11:14 PM on 11.06.06 |
->> I did not defend her actions. I addressed it from the point of view of the runners. I don't and you don't know that she didn't have a pass under her jacket. Besides that, it's not a closed course especially 4 or 5 hours after it's started. Every run a marathon before? Having shot photos of one does not allow you to speak for people that have or imply that you know how they feel. These bib numbers are in the 45,000 range. Some of them are walking in the photo and I don't see Lance Armstrong sprinting up in the background. All appear to overweight middle age adults. I don't make judgement on the photographer because I don't know and neither does anyone else here, unless they know the girl and her story. She is unnecessarily getting reamed by a lot of people and that is what I am defending if you want to call it that.
Jim Sykes wrote: "I find those comments a little unbelievable from a board such as this." Really? I find pretty much all of the negative comments about this unbelievable. The fact that so many people can get their panties in a wad over something so trivial and about an incident they have no first hand knowledge of. Maybe if I start acting like I am really important then my attitude will change.
Sorry you don't understand.
Going running now. Only 10 months and 3 weeks til the Omaha Marathon.
PS.
Wesley R. Bush wrote: If anyone is making photographers look bad, it's the guy who posted her picture. |
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Brad Penner, Photographer
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Neptune | NJ | USA | Posted: 11:38 PM on 11.06.06 |
->> Was she wrong? Absolutely. Was she the only photographer over the course of the entire 26.2 miles to be on the wrong side of the barriers? Of course not. Hell, I mentioned to my wife at the very start of the race that "wow, NBC has a photographer standing right in the middle of the bridge, check out all the runners swerving out of the way at the last second..." If there's ever a spot in the race where a photogrpaher can get run over, it's right at the beginning where 30,000 runners are packed tightly together, can't see more than 10 or 15 feet ahead, and can't move more than a foot or two side-to-side. But that's okay because they're NBC, right? (That was sarcasm.) The photographer who gives the bad name to photographers in this case is the guy who posted her picture to a forum rather than quietly going over to her and letting her know that what she was doing was wrong, and that she was putting herself and the runners at risk. Nope, in stead, he becomes the unprofessional jerk here. She's certainly not the first photographer to cross boundaries, and she certainly won't be the last. Could it have been a disaster? Of course. Could she have been hurt, or worse, could a runner have been hurt? Definitely. But let's put this into some kind of perspective. At least she didn't try this at a NASCAR event.
-b. |
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Nic Summers, Photographer
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Mount Prospect | IL | USA | Posted: 11:49 PM on 11.06.06 |
->> Jim Leary wrote:
"Nic,
Seems to me you must be one of those photographers that stands in the street during a marathon. Why else would you strongly defend such unprofessional and inconsiderate actions?"
Jim, I have never been to a marathon that I did not finish.
Jim, I don't see it as unprofessional. I see a girl trying to get a picture or 2, maybe for an application to SportsShooters... HAHA..wouldn't that be a hoot.. Would you not sponsor her because she did this? Maybe her boyfriend or father or a group of survivors that had recovered from testicular cancer or other were running the race and she wanted a few pictures of them...How do you really know? How would all the people feel now I wonder?
If it took standing in the road to get the money shot then what are you gonna do? Nothing ventured, nothing gained. Also, many act like the girl has no sense of judgement or consideration about other people and their surroundings. I would be willing to be that she actually a very astute girl considering she is shooting with a Canon :)
Also Jim, YOU seem to be the type to put words in peoples mouths for them and to make grand assumptions about people(me) that you don't know...oh wait.. isn't that what this entire thread is seemingly about?...lot's of people making assumptions about things they have no first hand knowledge of... You don't know me first hand so I politely ask you to not make assumptions until you do. Cheers!
For me, as Hanashiro-sama has spoken many times, Nuff said. |
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Michael Stevens, Photographer
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Phoenix | AZ | USA | Posted: 1:56 AM on 11.07.06 |
| ->> Wow, Jim. The hate you have for racers is ridiculous. Is life really that boring in Omaha that you feel the need to whine so vehemently about people shutting down your streets for part of an afternoon? Sad... |
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Peter Hoffman, Student/Intern, Photographer
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Naperville | IL | U.S. | Posted: 3:16 AM on 11.07.06 |
->> As someone who has been a marathon participant and finisher, and a photojournalist, I would be well pissed off if a photographer got in my way at the finish of the race.
It's hard enough to finish and keep your legs moving at that point and I would have found it easier to run straight into the photographer than use the effort to go around them. Really, you are in such a rhythm and focus and anything that obstructs that is more of an energy drain than you might realize...unless you've been in the same situation.
I think this is innapropriate, inconsiderate, and...ethically you are obstructing a part of the race path which can have an affect on the racers' finish times and places..thereby altering the true outcome of the situation.
I hope that she was contacted directly about her behavior. If she didn't know I hope someone tells her, but calling her out without actual personal contact won't help the situation. |
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Lucas Jackson, Photographer
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New York | NY | USA | Posted: 3:28 AM on 11.07.06 |
->> Poor form posting like that, and poor form making fun of her, help her, tell her she it is dangerous/wrong/silly.
If you don't have anything nice or constructive to say about her, or anyone else, please keep it to yourself.
Is everyone really just looking for a message board flame war here? |
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Rob Ostermaier, Photographer
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Newport News | VA | USA | Posted: 9:05 AM on 11.07.06 |
->> Maybe she didn't know what she was doing maybe she did but it dosen't change the fact that as an event photographer or photojournalist your job is the cover and photograph the event, not become a part of or influence the event. She was influencing the event directly by standing in the middle of the road.
Yes, photographers at events do influence how people act but that's different from effecting the performance of an athlete by standing in front of them.
As far as should she be picked on? Maybe a little bit. Seems to me that anyone getting paid to make photos, implying that you are a professional, should have known better. More of this is coming as companies will hire anyone that can push the button on the camera and work cheap.
My 2 cents. |
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Dave Cheng, Photographer
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Toronto | ON | Canada | Posted: 9:35 AM on 11.07.06 |
->> I'm pretty sure the photographer in question was credentialed.
I was working the finish line of this event, and I'm almost positive I saw her there as well. How do I know? I think she's in a few of my frames... stepping right into the path of runners as they finished, blasting off her shot from about a foot away. |
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Eric Thayer, Photographer
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New York | NY | USA | Posted: 10:06 AM on 11.07.06 |
| ->> Leave her alone, I think she's had enough. |
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Josh Anderson, Photographer
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Nashville | TN | United States | Posted: 10:07 AM on 11.07.06 |
->> I always thought staying off the field, track, ramp, pool, whatever was pretty much a given. There are plenty of ways to get a creative and unique shot without getting in the atheletes way. I cant imagine her photos were so good that they were worth getting in the way of people participating in the event and pissing them off, or even possibly injuring them.
I agree with the person who said that she may just not know and it would have been a good idea to inform her that what she was doing isnt cool.
It's childish to post photos of her and talk s*it about her after the fact. That gives photographers a bad name too. It just makes us look like little internet geeks. "Worst photographer ever!" |
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Jim Colburn, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Omaha | NE | USA | Posted: 10:33 AM on 11.07.06 |
->> "Those runners paid to be on the course"
That "course" is a public street.
"She is obviously young and still learning"
Bingo.
"The hate you have for racers is ridiculous"
I don't hate runners. I have no feelings for them either way. I've been inconvenienced by them because of street closures buy that's also been true of bicyclists and protest marchers. The point is that the runners are on a public street and are there at the sufference of the community. It's pretty lame of you to come up that statement just because I disagreed with you on this matter. Have you EVER got in anyone's way to get a picture? |
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Jeff Brehm, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Lancaster | OH | USA | Posted: 10:57 AM on 11.07.06 |
| ->> I volunteer one of the "pros" from the original post, "|Shrued," who defends her being in the way as "that's life" to shoot the next NASCAR race from the middle of the track. |
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Mark Smith, Photographer
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Elk City | OK | USA | Posted: 11:07 AM on 11.07.06 |
| ->> I know Parcells is "The Tuna", but what are "coach potatoes"? |
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Chuck Steenburgh, Photographer
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Lexington | VA | USA | Posted: 11:17 AM on 11.07.06 |
->> Jim,
That many streets (to be closed by marathons) in Omaha?
Chuck
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Jim Colburn, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Omaha | NE | USA | Posted: 1:39 PM on 11.07.06 |
->> "That many streets (to be closed by marathons) in Omaha?"
Easiest marathon in the world, Just one long, wide street...
Sort of like an idea I had once for the Olympics:
"There's LOTS of spare room in Australia. So instead of holding the 400-meter, 1500-meter, etc. in a stadium on a track that goes round and round why not have the race just go off in strait line? Same thing with the marathon, a long strait line leading to the outback. Better yet. Let's make things even more interesting by releasing a few nasty looking and very hungry animals just behind the runners? I'm sure a few records would be set every time that happened." |
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Ron Bernardo, Photographer
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Hamilton | ON | Canada | Posted: 8:58 PM on 11.07.06 |
->> I just want to share my two cents. I sometimes shoot marathons for both Brightroom and ASI. We wear vest and proper Identification when we shoot these races.
Also, we were given specific directions on how to shoot and locations where to shoot.
I am not siding with either ASI or Brightroom, but they are both very good in training their marathon shooters. |
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