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How man "clicks" do you fire off a week?
 
Patrick Smith, Student/Intern, Photographer
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Forest Hill | MD | USA | Posted: 10:05 PM on 10.04.06 |
->> I was just wondering how many pictures everyone tends to take in a normal one-week period.
I shoot about 400-700 a week on a normal basis, some weeks more, never less. I shoot for a twice weekly, covering everything from sports to news.
Also post if you are shooting for a publication or just for fun. |
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Drew Buchanan, Student/Intern, Photographer
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Fort Walton Beach | FL | USA | Posted: 10:12 PM on 10.04.06 |
->> ...About 1250-1500 on average...I'm a very heavy shooter...I'd rather have more and cut down, than less.
--Multiple publications |
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Jonathan Castner, Photographer
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Longmont | CO | USA | Posted: 10:18 PM on 10.04.06 |
->> I average about 1200 frames a week. But then I'm not a "movie" maker that constantaly holds down the drive.
Multiple publications. |
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Nigel Kinrade, Photographer
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Alpharetta | GA | USA | Posted: 10:32 PM on 10.04.06 |
| ->> I shoot between 2,000 and 3,000 images each weekend and I'm not a heavy shooter, I weigh in at 180lbs. |
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Drew Buchanan, Student/Intern, Photographer
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Fort Walton Beach | FL | USA | Posted: 10:41 PM on 10.04.06 |
| ->> Sorry, I meant "I'm not a heavy shooter". Heavy would probably be over 5'000 clicks...like a wedding photographer. |
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Patrick Smith, Student/Intern, Photographer
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Forest Hill | MD | USA | Posted: 10:49 PM on 10.04.06 |
| ->> haha. how often do you guys send your gear in for repairs, a la new shutters? |
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David Manning, Photographer
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Orlando | FL | | Posted: 10:53 PM on 10.04.06 |
->> Well Somewhere in the 750-1000 range i suppose, depending on the sports, Football, and weird police stuff.
I've been trying to visualize more and make good images and think about it rather than shooting everything i see under the sun. Then there's the police manhunts and old habits come back. |
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Mark Watkins, Photographer
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Acworth | GA | USA | Posted: 10:59 PM on 10.04.06 |
| ->> Some weeks as low as 300, most weeks 3000 with gusts up to 12,000 followed by moments of insanity. |
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Jeff Lewis, Photographer
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Long Beach | CA | USA | Posted: 11:22 PM on 10.04.06 |
->> I shoot on average of about 4,000 frames a week. I'm in very good shape. I'm trying to max out at about 5,000 to 6,000 a week if I can get my stamina and heart rate up.
.......My shutter broke once.... At Yankee Stadium...... Right before introducing myself to Rich Pilling. I was standing right next to him and BOOM..... or more like errrrscrrrattch. One of the blades crossed another and then dangled in front of the sensor. I was so shocked at it that I quietly left the well and sat there is shock for about three innings staring at it thinking how would I pay for this since it was my only Mark II at the time, the first and only time it had happened, and I was from LA and knew nobody in NY........ :-(
Jeff |
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Ian L. Sitren, Photographer
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Palm Springs | CA | USA | Posted: 12:01 AM on 10.05.06 |
| ->> I just shot the Olympia Bodybuidling competition followed by two weddings. That was 6 days in Las Vegas probably about 4000 frames. My second shooter at the weddings was at 1000. |
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Jeff Lewis, Photographer
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Long Beach | CA | USA | Posted: 12:26 AM on 10.05.06 |
->> Ian,
You should be shooting more frames since you are in pretty good shape.... and so are your subjects. :-)
Jeff |
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Jack Howard, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Somerville | NJ | USA | Posted: 12:32 AM on 10.05.06 |
->> Everyone should sit back, put their camera down, and read this book: http://www.sportsshooter.com/education/book_profile.html?id=110
How many shots do I take in a week?
It varies.
But always enough that I'm happy with my performance, and hopefully the clients are, too, whether that's 10 or 2,000 on a shoot.
Way back when in the 'small-card' days, I had a shoot at a camp for developmentally disabled children. I was challenged with the task of capturing their joy and esprit, despite their hardships. I wanted shots that showed the children as children, not as children with sometimes severe disabilities. My final take was less than 1/4% of the 5,000 frames that day. I'd shoot, dump my card to a laptop, pull my other 512 card out of the card slot and repeat. Like a million times.
But the client was happy with the results. It took time, effort, building trust with the subjects, patience, and persistence. But it paid off. The images in the final take do not ever mask the disabilities, but the disabilites are but a small part of the overall childhood experiences the camp offered to these kids.
Could I have shot less and gotten OKish shots like their previous photographer? I suppose. But it was a challenge, and to this day, my work with this charity remains some of the most spiritually rewarding work I've done–for less than I should have charged, for as hard as I had to work.
I just got their monthly newsletter in the mail the other day. One of the shots I took at another aspect of their operation was featured prominently, explaining that through the perserverance of the therapists, and the donation of expensive rehabilitation devices to improve motor skills, the young child I'd photographed several years back had far exceeded the initial expectations of development, and with the aide of a motorized chair, is now far more self-mobile than was expected. And my photo, the best one of the 300-plus I shot just of him in that apparatus that day, was featured in their fund-raising brochure for quite a long time. Do you think I was thinking about shutter fatigue when I read that?
Yesterday, I shot 37 frames of a Fisher-Price Kid Cam. It was against a white plexi sweep, lit primarily from below, with two softboxes at high 45 degree angles for fill. I was trying to catch it in mid-bounce, with a good angle towards the lens.
I had my winner at 34. I tried three more times and it didn't bounce right. So I was done.
I shoot as much as I need to be satisfied that I've given my best to the assignment, whether that's 10 frames, or 2,000 frames. |
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Jeff Lewis, Photographer
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Long Beach | CA | USA | Posted: 2:51 AM on 10.05.06 |
->> I don't know what it is for everybody else but I shoot a ton of youth action pictures a week. I might shoot a typical four to five football game Saturday and shoot about 600 frames a game. Do the multiplication and that 2,400 shots on a Saturday. Add in another 1,400 shots at the USC or UCLA game that night and thats 3,800 frames on Saturday alone. On other days, the shot count could be less. 4,000 is about the average per week. I average about 1,000 per MLB game and transmit about 10. Thats 1% of the pics that I use.
Jack is correct in what he said about the client being happy. If you take 5,000 shots and give the client 300 good pictures, he doesn't necessarily know you shot 5,000 pictures. All he really cares about is that he got 300 good pictures. You did your job. Thats a good thing.
If you need one good shot and you shot four to get it and you got it, you did your job. Shoot what you need to shoot to get the job done.
Jeff |
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Corey Perrine, Photographer
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Hudson | NH | USA | Posted: 2:55 AM on 10.05.06 |
| ->> I pulled my last image today into an EXIF viewer and it read, "Too damn much." |
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Aaron Rhoads, Photographer
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McComb | MS | USA | Posted: 11:42 AM on 10.05.06 |
| ->> 23 and a half. |
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Erik Anderson, Photographer
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Kansas City | MO | | Posted: 11:54 AM on 10.05.06 |
| ->> As my business is event oriented as the sole shooter, I average 2K per weekend not including the prep sports that I cover. On a given week, 2-3K would be the norm. |
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Ron Bernardo, Photographer
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Hamilton | ON | Canada | Posted: 12:25 PM on 10.05.06 |
| ->> I shot on average 1000 per week, but can go up to 3000 on week ends when covering Marathons and other freelance events. |
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Jody Gomez, Photographer
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Murrieta | CA | USA | Posted: 5:03 PM on 10.06.06 |
| ->> I range from 1100 to 3000 shots per week... it all depends on what I'm shooting. |
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Chris Lekhavanija, Photo Editor, Photographer
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Columbia | MD | USA | Posted: 11:31 PM on 10.06.06 |
| ->> 2-3k on average. A little more for some weekend job. |
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Bill Miller, Photographer
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Thousand Palms | CA | USA | Posted: 12:15 AM on 10.07.06 |
| ->> Question for all. If your averaging 1500-4000 shots a week, "how many were keepers, and saleable?" |
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Thomas E. Witte, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Fashion Heights | OH | USA | Posted: 1:44 AM on 10.07.06 |
->> This time of year; 4,000 (at least two football games) to 8,000 (three games and three other assignments of some sort). During the rest of the year, 0-2,000.
Bill- They're all keepers, why else would you push the button? |
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John Lee, Photographer
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San Francisco | CA | USA | Posted: 4:26 AM on 10.07.06 |
| ->> i limit myself to 10 |
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Ian L. Sitren, Photographer
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Palm Springs | CA | USA | Posted: 11:02 AM on 10.07.06 |
->> How many keepers?
In my case, way too many. When I shoot a competition like the Olympia each competitor hits a pose, goes through a routine and there are mutliple events. And my major client builds galleries around as many photos I can supply for each of the events. It is what the viewers are looking for in that sport. Now I don't have the final numbers but a good guess at the moment is that the Olympia coverage for that client probably brought the unique viewers count to around 300,000 each day or maybe more.
But this is kind of a unique circumstance where 5 similiar photos are really not as similiar as you might think. So the answer is the number of "keepers" is also determined by the requirments of the job. |
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Steven E. Frischling, Photographer
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New England | | USA | Posted: 1:19 PM on 10.09.06 |
| ->> 4376 yesterday |
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Daniel McElmury, Photographer
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San Francisco | CA | | Posted: 2:41 PM on 10.09.06 |
| ->> 3,000-5000 a week. I shoot youth sports so I'm constantly rat tat tat tatting. My poor little 20D's. |
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Chris Ivin, Photographer
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Sydney | NSW | Australia | Posted: 7:12 AM on 10.10.06 |
->> If only to show what you can get out of a 1d mark 2 battery, the other week I shot 4300 pics in 2.5hrs (review off) at the finish line of the City to Surf (63,000 runners!)
I still had juice left. Nice one Canon. |
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Wendi Kaminski, Photographer, Assistant
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La Mirada | CA | USA | Posted: 12:22 PM on 10.10.06 |
->> Depends if I have a marathon that weekend to shoot plus regular assignments, my shots could range from 3000-6000. Now with Hockey started and Basketball starting a couple weeks, that will change!
I a hefty shooter! Lovin' every frame! |
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Carl Auer, Photographer
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Eagle River | AK | USA | Posted: 2:51 PM on 10.10.06 |
| ->> 38,000 shots last year. With my camera being at Canon 2 times for a week each trip, and having bed ridden flue for one week, that works out to about 776 shots a week. I know some days I put a couple thousand shots on the board, and other weeks 10-15 shots. It all depends on the client (or me). I am shooting freelance for a weekly newspaper, for 2 wire services, and shoot as a booster picture taking guy for a high school and a little league, but it is all fun to me. I can't think of a job I would rather have that is any more fun than this.....and as stressful as this... |
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Paul Alesse, Photographer
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Centereach | NY | USA | Posted: 10:17 PM on 10.10.06 |
->> Varies for me. This past weekend was pretty high... around 14K over two days with a youth soccer tourney and 140 teams. My record though stands at 30K in two days... shooting a major cheerleading competition in RI. All handheld with a mk2 and a 200/1.8. And I was just one of three shooters. Their volume was twice mine. Something like 120GB of shots total that weekend. I experienced things I never experienced before. Back focus button blisters, shoulder tendonitis.
It's insane if you think about it. |
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Dave Amorde, Photographer
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Lake Forest | CA | USA | Posted: 11:26 AM on 10.11.06 |
| ->> I'm still trying to figure out what a "Man Click" is. |
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DJ Werner, Photo Editor, Photographer
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Beaufort | NC | USA | Posted: 3:19 PM on 10.11.06 |
->> depends on the season and the assignment
150 to 350 is an average day |
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David Sokol, Photographer
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Reading | MA | USA | Posted: 3:04 PM on 10.12.06 |
| ->> I'd say about 1,000 a week and it depends on how many sporting assignments I have. |
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Kai-Huei Yau, Photographer
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Eugene | OR | USA | Posted: 3:17 PM on 10.12.06 |
->> Last weekend, I shot marching band for Jolesch and ended up with almost 4,000 in a day.
My shoulders just recently recovered...
My hand was cramping up about halfway through the day and when I was flexing it, I had a grimace on my face while spacing out. When I snapped out of it, some high school kid was looking at me funny and I realized I had been staring at him with my odd expression and gesture. |
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Jason Franson, Photographer
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Edmonton | AB | Canada | Posted: 3:28 PM on 10.12.06 |
->> How many frames and rolls of film would you shoot in a week? Thats the problem with the digital world, shoot everything then find the picture later, people are losing the anticipation of seeing a photo happen, theres no talent in that.
Anyone can shoot a movie with their camera, lose the 100 frames per second and see what you can shoot that way. I suggest you heavy shooters put your cameras on one shot for a while and find the picture. |
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Thomas E. Witte, Photographer, Photo Editor
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Fashion Heights | OH | USA | Posted: 5:34 PM on 10.12.06 |
->> Jason- I'd agree with your statement but only in certain situations. Different photographers have different needs to satisfy on any given assignment.
Some people have to go to an NFL game and only need to send in 2 or 3 photos. Then other people have to go and have a list of 50 players to hone in on, a list of commercial clients needs to keep in mind, general news stuff to get on top of just shooting the game in general for that Leading Off or Zoom.
It's not shooting everything now and finding the picture later, it's finding every picture now so you don't lose your ass later. |
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Mark Bolton, Photographer
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Dover | NH | USA | Posted: 6:43 PM on 10.12.06 |
->> I'll shoot upwards of 1500 clicks for a week, mostly from the university/high school football + soccer games.
As Thomas Witte pointed out, I also think of getting extra images of players that the paper may want to feature/highlight the following week. The paper will run 3-4 photos, but now wants more for the online galleries we are now featuring for print sales. |
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Mark Smith, Photographer
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Elk City | OK | USA | Posted: 7:03 PM on 10.12.06 |
->> I agree with both Jason and Thomas.
20 years ago, shooting 20 frames of a cello concert you only need one shot of, probably would have been overkill. That's over half a roll of film. However, in another thread, a student was talking of that very thing, as if 20 frames wasn't that many, but he only took that many because people were annoyed by his shutter. I understand what Jason is saying, simply because film forced discipline that is lost on many younger shooters. On the other hand, lots of assignments/clients/shoots require many images. Essentially, the ability to shoot large numbers of images is often very necessary. Equally, however, a greater number of those images will be good if you are a disciplined shooter, not simply banging away aimlessly.
Incidently, I'm not being critical of that student. I just think it illustrates an effect of these digital times. We all shoot more frames digitally. That doesn't change the fact that 8fps and 8 gig cards don't replace skill. |
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Jason Franson, Photographer
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Edmonton | AB | Canada | Posted: 8:01 PM on 10.12.06 |
| ->> I was going to put this in the first post, obviously it makes a difference in what you are shooting, when I cover an Edmonton Oilers hockey game I'll shoot around 200 give or take frames and file around 20 -25 pictures for the night. But, my point is I have seen people fill a 2 gig card on a one portrait, or a press conference or a feature and spend more time trying to edit the shoot than the shoot actually took. Like Mark said it's about discipline. |
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Paul Kelm, Photographer
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Plzen | Czech Republic | Czech Republic | Posted: 11:29 PM on 10.12.06 |
| ->> When I shoot running events (marathons), I put on about 3500 - 4500 in about six hours. If there are a couple events back-to-back, that adds up. |
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