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Joe Cavaretta, Photographer
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Ft Lauderdale | FL | USA | Posted: 10:57 AM on 08.18.06 |
->> FYI
6-foot restricted area established for 2006 football season
The Florida High School Athletic Association Board of Directors has adopted the use of a 6-foot restricted area around football fields for the 2006 season.
Home-team management must mark this 6-foot restricted area completely around the field (sidelines and end lines) with a 4-inch broken restraining line.
All media personnel (reporters and photographers), as well as all other individuals having sideline access, must remain behind the restraining line outside the restricted area at all times during the game. Home-team management and contest officials have been instructed to strictly enforce the restricted area.
Please advise all reporters (both staff and correspondents) and photographers (both staff and free-lance) of this new rule.
About the FHSAA
The Florida High School Athletic Association is the governing body for interscholastic athletic competition in Florida. It has a membership of more than 700 middle, junior and senior high schools. |
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Drew Buchanan, Student/Intern, Photographer
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Fort Walton Beach | FL | USA | Posted: 12:25 PM on 08.18.06 |
->> Thanks Joe for posting this. I would've never found out. This is pretty harsh.
OT...sorry about before, no hard feelings.
-Drew |
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Jenny Cecil, Photographer
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Orlando (The Villages) | FL | USA | Posted: 12:56 PM on 08.18.06 |
->> Joe-
Thanks for the brief, I laughed when I saw that dashed line last night at a preaseason game. I thought whoever marked it was drunk or just didn't know how to measure. Two other football shooters later called me to complain about it too.
The good news is I crossed the line all night and no one said a word to me. However, the officials did give quite a few sideline warnings to both teams last night. I guess we will have to wait until the real season to see how serious they are about it. Has anyone been warned from a ref yet? |
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Katie Derksen, Photographer
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The Villages | FL | United States | Posted: 1:19 PM on 08.18.06 |
->> Pretty soon we're going to be shooting from the bleachers.
I shot a preseason game last night as well — the coaches, refs and even one security guard all approached me, asking if I knew about "the line." One ref said he'll warn us once if we cross it, but the second time he has to ask, we get thrown out.
Although, I have to say, a fellow SportsShooter (who shall remain nameless) stuck his right foot in the forbidden area during the first quarter, and he didn't spontaneously combust. |
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John David Emmett, Photographer
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Fort Myers | Fl | United States | Posted: 3:54 PM on 08.18.06 |
| ->> I covered a preseason game last night and didn't see a line around the field. I stood about two feet from the sideline and talked with the refs during the game and no one said anything to me. |
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Alex Menendez, Photographer
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Orlando | FL | USA | Posted: 4:24 PM on 08.18.06 |
->> Jenny,
You've been crossing the LINE since I've known you!
Pretty funny about the 6 foot rule. Is this so the TV stations can crossover and get their SPECTACULAR shots and we can't. I don't mind the rule, whatever, just keep it consistent so some idiot doesn't jump ahead 2 feet and kill everyone elses shot.
Katie, did you "flash him" with your strobe to see if he is really blind or not?
Thanks for the heads up Joe, I"m shooting this evening and will let you know if my game has the same lines.
c-ya alex |
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Jarrett Baker, Student/Intern
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Gainesville | FL | | Posted: 5:03 PM on 08.18.06 |
| ->> And to think I've been standing right ON the line since I shot for my high school yearbook. Only once was I asked to move, and half a step back did the trick. That's one of the nice things about high school ball - access. I'll often shoot amongst the players and coaches just because I can ... but I guess that will have to change. |
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Lamar Standish, Photographer
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Lakeland | FL | USA | Posted: 12:06 AM on 08.19.06 |
| ->> I shot a game tonight and it had the lines painted. It was pretty much a non-issue for me however I saw at least 2 occasions where one of the teams was penalized for having players and/or coaches over the line. |
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Kevin Clancy, Student/Intern, Photographer
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Parkland | FL | USA | Posted: 12:10 AM on 08.19.06 |
| ->> I shot a game last night and the line didn't seem to bother me much. I crossed it on accident here and there and the ref just gave me a look but other then that it seems they've got more to worry about. |
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Bob Markey, Photographer
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Royal Palm Beach | FL | US | Posted: 9:11 PM on 08.20.06 |
->> I saw the line and didn't know anything about the rule. A ref asked me once to move back (I was less than a foot inside the line). Later, another ref told me to "love back behind the line", but I was at around the 15 or 20 and there was no special line there.
'Should be interesting. |
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Matthew Bush, Student/Intern, Photographer
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Ellisville | MS | USA | Posted: 12:48 AM on 08.21.06 |
| ->> Im not from Florida nor do I pretend to be .. They enforce this rule here in Mississippi for the State Championship, but I haven't seen it in regular season. Does anyone know why they adopted this rule, is this an issue with players and coaches being to close to the field and the photographers are just getting a raw deal or is the Florida school's taking a lesson from the NFL in media relations. |
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Jason Palmer, Photographer
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Wichita Falls | TX | USA | Posted: 10:31 AM on 08.21.06 |
->> Six feet really isn't that bad honestly....that's 2 yards...which is just enough room for the side judge to run in between your $5000+ worth of camera/lens and the sideline where he's supposed to be.
I've seen photogs. actually earn a 10-yd. penalty for the team they are on the sideline for...during the regular season.
He was asked to move once...didn't...and the ref. actually ran into him along the sideline. |
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Paul W Gillespie, Photographer
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Annapolis | MD | USA | Posted: 10:43 AM on 08.21.06 |
| ->> If it keeps the teams and coaches back maybe it is not such a bad thing. Here in MD it gets tough to shoot down field because the coach are either close to or way over the out of bounds line right on the field. |
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Alex Menendez, Photographer
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Orlando | FL | USA | Posted: 1:01 PM on 08.21.06 |
->> Central Florida has this line in effect as of last Friday night. They are also issuing penalties to teams if they are not standing inside thier own 30 yard lines in a "team box" when 11 players are on the field. Both offensive series started the game with a stern warning and flags were dropped on each teams first possession. The ref at my game stated the reason for the lines was so the yardage marker guys could move on first downs/panalites without delaying the game. Makes sense to me.
Oh yeah, I left all of my gear with logos at home....see the NFL thread posted on this site.
alex |
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Angel Valentin, Photographer
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Miami | FL | United States | Posted: 7:33 PM on 08.21.06 |
| ->> I'm gonna try real hard to get banned from every Fla sporting event this year... |
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Kevin Clancy, Student/Intern, Photographer
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Parkland | FL | USA | Posted: 7:49 PM on 08.21.06 |
| ->> I don't find that hard to believe Angel |
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Mark Perlstein, Photo Editor, Photographer
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Plano | TX | USA | Posted: 11:39 AM on 08.22.06 |
| ->> What's the fuss. That 2 yard buffer is for the safety of the sidline officials. Sideline players and coaches are restricted from that buffer too, and often get a sideline warning or interfearance flag. I have had several photographers interfear with my line of sight on a key sideline play, and I have bumped into a few as well as I was getting out of the way of a play. I usually chat with the photos before the game and advise them I give no warning if they are inside the 2 yard buffer and are in the way. If they interfear with me I go right to the coach and let him handle it. And if the coach handles it, it is not be a pretty sight. LOL. It's really not a big deal. Do your job and let others do theirs. IMHO |
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Joe Cavaretta, Photographer
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Ft Lauderdale | FL | USA | Posted: 2:16 PM on 08.22.06 |
->> Angel;
getting banned from football should not be a problem for you considedring the fact that you got yourself banned from an entire COUNTRY last week!
CAV |
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Bruce Kennedy, Photographer
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Panama City | FL | US | Posted: 9:28 PM on 08.23.06 |
| ->> Two yards - big deal. I think that's the same as college, or am I mistaken? If you see the broken line on the field two yards outside the field of play and have experience shooting sports, it's should "click" what it means. |
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Alex Boerner, Photographer
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Port St. Lucie | FL | USA | Posted: 9:58 PM on 08.23.06 |
| ->> Yeah, two yards is no big deal. Also, the teams can be penalized for their players going inside the boundaries so they all make sure they stay out of the way, and therefore out of YOUR way. |
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Drew Buchanan, Student/Intern, Photographer
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Fort Walton Beach | FL | USA | Posted: 10:15 PM on 08.23.06 |
->> After my first game for the season it actually wasn't as bad as I thought...dare I say it...I almost liked having the extra space and having the teams out of my way.
I think it's harsher for the players than us. The whole game I kept on hearing, "STAY BACK!" and my favorite "GET YOUR A$$ BACK BEHIND THAT LINE!" |
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Bob Croslin, Photographer
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St. Petersburg | FL | USA | Posted: 12:45 PM on 08.24.06 |
->> Angel,
First, sporting events....what's next, strip clubs? You keep it up you'll be lucky if they let you back in the country from Puerto Rico. |
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James Clark, Photographer, Assistant
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Melbourne | FL | USA | Posted: 1:02 AM on 08.26.06 |
| ->> Well, I shot six games so far with that line now. Three last week and three this week. I have come to like this line. Sure I am farther away. But, not that much. What advantage I see is that when ballrunners come down the sidelines, it is actually much easier to shoot them. since all of the line clutter (coaches, chain gang, hangers on, and other shooters)is backed away, getting a clean shot is much easier. |
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Gray Quetti, Photographer
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Jacksonville | Fl | USA | Posted: 7:59 AM on 08.26.06 |
| ->> I agree with Jack. All the line clutter is gone and it's easier to shoot down the line. It didn't start out that way last night though. The ref had to throw in a couple sideline penalties to get everyones attention but after that it was nice. |
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Mike Carlson, Photographer
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Bayonet Point | FL | USA | Posted: 8:43 AM on 08.26.06 |
->> I've shot three games so far this season in three different counties and, as would be expected, have had three different experiences. Last night even the referees weren't aware of the new rules and there were people flying all over the sidelines, stepping out in front, etc.
One interesting note about this rule that may have escaped notice - members of the professional media can actually earn a penalty!
If, after two sideline warnings, we cross the line again a five-yard penalty can be enforced on the team whose sideline we violated - the theory is that each team/school administrator is supposed to patrol the sideline to help keep game officials focused on the action...
...no clear word on what happens if it is in the end zone...
More info at the http://www.fhsaa.org site, including a cheezy slide show with pixelated pics and happy faces here:
http://www.fhsaa.org/fb/sideline_safety.ppt |
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Paul W Gillespie, Photographer
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Annapolis | MD | USA | Posted: 9:11 AM on 08.26.06 |
->> Mike said "One interesting note about this rule that may have escaped notice - members of the professional media can actually earn a penalty!"
You could really get in a hole if the refs hit you with 10 yard penalty on top of the six yards back to the line. That's 16 yards, you may have to punt. |
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Paul W Gillespie, Photographer
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Annapolis | MD | USA | Posted: 9:13 AM on 08.26.06 |
| ->> Doh its six feet not six yards. So 12 yards back to the line. Man I knew I should not be tyoing before I finished my coffee. |
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Drew Buchanan, Student/Intern, Photographer
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Fort Walton Beach | FL | USA | Posted: 10:44 AM on 08.26.06 |
->> Last night I had two games to cover. The first, it was raining horribly and I passed over the line, I don't know how many times, but I didn't get called on it; I think they felt bad for us, I looked like a tourist in Disney World when it's raining -with all the plastic on me. I thought the 300/2.8 would be ruined. The second game was perfect, everyone was behind the line just trying to get their job done.
These rules are definitely "doable" |
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Bob Markey, Photographer
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Royal Palm Beach | FL | US | Posted: 6:07 PM on 08.30.06 |
->> How can the refs tell which team gets penalized if the shooter is there to cover both teams?
A do-over? |
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Gray Quetti, Photographer
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Jacksonville | Fl | USA | Posted: 6:59 PM on 08.30.06 |
| ->> They penalize the team on the side your shooting on. |
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